How to create a monster team in OOTP 24?

[Samueltbaum]

Again, I don't fault the game. I just gather there is some sort of setting that I'm missing that prevents players ratings from correlating with their stats. when it comes to simming the game. If I actually play the game I destroy teams 20-0, and go undefeated.

Someone stated before they could win 130 wins a season. I had already been doing everything they stated before they made the post. I'd have seasons where preseason prediction had me at 125 wins, and I'd finish the season with 104.

[Samueltbaum]

Also.... I enjoy these forums, because it brings other people who play the game together to share knowledge.

I posted because I gathered I am not the only player that has attempted to create monster teams that destroy records, and would enjoy to know what approach others have used to have successful monster teams where players live up to there ratings.

Again, when I first bought the game, I spent hours trading/making thousands of moves to turn the oakland A's into a world series team by year two. I was successful in doing this. After that it was non challenge mode year one champions with Oakland and I was successful.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by Samueltbaum

What mistakes? That 80 win team was a wild card team. The division the NL was just weaker that year. and that wasn't even the team that beat me.

If letting an 80-82 team into the playoffs isn't a mistake then at what won-lost record is it a mistake to let a team into the playoffs?

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by Samueltbaum

21 was the last version I had, no idea if 22 or 23 was any different. I'm simply curious if there is some setting that I can change to have players live up to their potential?

Based on your belief that 24 penalizes really good teams and 21 does not then the setting change to make is the link you select to start a save. Select the link to 21 and all will be fine.

As with under .500 teams doing well in the playoffs, the solution is visible and obvious. I mean, you're looking at a car with a flat tire and claiming the car can't be used for another unknown reason.

[Samueltbaum]

Originally Posted by Brad K

If letting an 80-82 team into the playoffs isn't a mistake then at what won-lost record is it a mistake to let a team into the playoffs?

If we changed the structure of sports seasons in real life than I understand we can start focusing more on how many wins rather than winning conference/division to make playoffs/postseason. In the NBA this year alone there is a .441 team that is lined up to make the playoffs. In previous years the East tends to be much weaker than the west, so .500+ teams from the west would miss out on the playoffs when -.500 teams in the east would make it to the playoffs.

Right or wrong, that is how the structure is setup. There may be better structures to setup, but our Major sports hasn't figured it out.

I am currently upset with the new Major League wild card setup. It blows my mind that the world series this past year consisted of teams that wouldn't have made the playoffs a if the structure was the same it was a few years ago. If they were even #1 wildcard team it would've made more sense to me, but neither team was even that. It kind of makes the regular season less important, when a team that has the 13th best record in the Majors league end up making it to the world series.

[Samueltbaum]

Originally Posted by Brad K

Based on your belief that 24 penalizes really good teams and 21 does not then the setting change to make is the link you select to start a save. Select the link to 21 and all will be fine.

As with under .500 teams doing well in the playoffs, the solution is visible and obvious. I mean, you're looking at a car with a flat tire and claiming the car can't be used for another unknown reason.

I had nothing wrong with a .500 team making the playoff. In the game, because its a game based off of the MLB. You appear to have an issue with it... As the structure is in the game, an under .500 team was a wild card. I don't like the playoff structure currently in the MLB, but that is real team/real players, not a computer game. I was simply confused how the team ended up winning the worlds series with a team that no stars, terrible stat, and the destroyed great teams to make it to the world series.

I'm again not hating on the game, I'm simply curious what setting in 24 makes it this way, and if others experience it and or know the answer rather than saying "play the version you like".

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by Samueltbaum

Right or wrong, that is how the structure is setup. There may be better structures to setup, but our Major sports hasn't figured it out.

I am currently upset with the new Major League wild card setup. It blows my mind that the world series this past year consisted of teams that wouldn't have made the playoffs a if the structure was the same it was a few years ago. If they were even #1 wildcard team it would've made more sense to me, but neither team was even that. It kind of makes the regular season less important, when a team that has the 13th best record in the Majors league end up making it to the world series.

You are not obligated to do in your save what MLB does real life. It's your game. Play it your way.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by Samueltbaum

I'm again not hating on the game, I'm simply curious what setting in 24 makes it this way, and if others experience it and or know the answer rather than saying "play the version you like".

No one knows what "makes it this way." It appears from this thread that you are the only one who believes it's "this way." So first show it's "this way."

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by Samueltbaum

I'm again not hating on the game, I'm simply curious what setting in 24 makes it this way, and if others experience it and or know the answer rather than saying "play the version you like".

I suppose instead of marrying a person you like you instead picked someone who wasn't what you like with the idea of devising a plan to change them.

[Samueltbaum]

Originally Posted by Brad K

Based on your belief that 24 penalizes really good teams and 21 does not then the setting change to make is the link you select to start a save. Select the link to 21 and all will be fine.

As with under .500 teams doing well in the playoffs, the solution is visible and obvious. I mean, you're looking at a car with a flat tire and claiming the car can't be used for another unknown reason.

I simply have a hypothesis. In a computer game, ratings dictate statistics. OOTP 24 doesn't appear to do this.

I finally won more than 111 in the season I just simmed with 122 wins. Stats were almost identical to to my previous 15 years. Roughly 3.00 Era, which I think lines up pretty well with realism (even though their ratings show it would be more like 2.00), and 900 Runs. Again a team full of prime Aaron judges and Justin Verlanders with injuries turned off, would have an ERA below regularly below 3.00, and well over 1000 runs.

But lost in the Postseaon in my first round to a team with 84 wins.

[Samueltbaum]

Originally Posted by Brad K

I suppose instead of marrying a person you like you instead picked someone who wasn't what you like with the idea of devising a plan to change them.

hmmm.... I see you are filled with analogies that don't actually help answer my question.

Thank you for your input, I did appreciate a different perspective!

OOTP 24 is a great game!

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by Samueltbaum

hmmm.... I see you are filled with analogies that don't actually help answer my question.

Thank you for your input, I did appreciate a different perspective!

OOTP 24 is a great game!

Oh, I'm answering a question!



Have a great day.

[Samueltbaum]

Originally Posted by Brad K

No one knows what "makes it this way." It appears from this thread that you are the only one who believes it's "this way." So first show it's "this way."

I don't know if its this way for others? If I am the only one that this happens to than it goes back to my original question of why it happens for me. What settings must I adjust to consistently have players live up to their ratings.

Have you ever loaded your entire team with players like Randy Johnson and Mike Trouts, backend of rotation like Marino Rivera only for them to only score 900 runs a year with an ERA around 3.00? My closer/SU pitchers are the only ones on my team that consistently have stats that match their ratings. Under 2.00 Era every year.

If this has never happened to you and you consistently have an entire roster of players who hit .333/.400/.600. That wins over 130 games a year I would enjoy to know how you do it, and what adjustments I need to make in the game. Telling me to stop playing the game doesn't help the original question.

I had a 10 year stretch where I won the World series every year, with lesser players on my team, and top wins was 101. Once I started winning 110 with better players at every position my stats increased a little, while rarely winning the world series.

I honestly don't care about the world series, I just want to win a ton of games, and destroy player records. I am confused how a terrible team can completely shut my offense down, and destroy the best pitchers in the game. I've got the players, I've got legendary coaching staff, but it never turns comes together to completely destroy the league. 130+ wins

[Samueltbaum]

I know its possible for teams to win more and have stats stronger. I had a season where Most of the team was perfect. went 162-0 and swept through the playoffs. Stats were ridiculous.

I'm simply intrigued how to get players to get the best players in the league live up to their ratings without adjusting settings. Or if other people have a struggle to get players to live up to their ratings consistently.

[Samueltbaum]

To help explain. I did a 1 year/ 2 year for OOTP because 1st year is Covid Year. With an absolutely stacked team with the best players at all positions. The major difference between the two is the offense... although 24 my team overall has way better ratings, the 21 team won more games, and displayed better offensive stats, which leads to more wins. Again, pitching was still roughly around 3.00 ERA for both.

This is not me Making something up. There is a clear difference between 21 and 24 for hitters living up to what their ratings show. Which results scores in more wins, and no crazy series loses vs terrible teams.

Again... This is not a problem. I'm simply trying to see if there is some setting in 24 to have players statistics reflective of their ratings. So a team that should realistically would win 120+ games doesn't only win 104, and get swept in the first round of the playoffs by an 83 win team with nobody on it. The answer may be no, and that is fine. But I don't know what more I can show what I'm talking about than this, and the following pictures. This post is 21, I can't put all 8 photos onto this one post.

[Samueltbaum]

24 stats

There is a clear difference between the two, and it seems like a some settings that decreases stats from the best players in the game in 24 that wasn't there in 21

[Samueltbaum]

Using same strategy I used in OOTP 24, but in 21....

Best player at each position, top 5 SP, Tope 3 relievers for back end of rotation.

In 21 I win over 130 games almost ever season. In 24 I struggle to win 110.

Again, I'm not upset that this is the case, games adapt. I'm simply trying to see if anyone knows why this is, and how to adjust this if it is possible to have players live up to their ratings. in 21 a hitter 100 contact or OBP would regularly hit .333 or .400+. In 24 those same ratings and sometimes they'll hit .250, and often be around .360 OBP. Huge difference for the same rating in player. Simply having that makes it harder to win more games. and destroy records.

[OutS|der]

Originally Posted by Samueltbaum

Using same strategy I used in OOTP 24, but in 21....

Best player at each position, top 5 SP, Tope 3 relievers for back end of rotation.

In 21 I win over 130 games almost ever season. In 24 I struggle to win 110.

Again, I'm not upset that this is the case, games adapt. I'm simply trying to see if anyone knows why this is, and how to adjust this if it is possible to have players live up to their ratings. in 21 a hitter 100 contact or OBP would regularly hit .333 or .400+. In 24 those same ratings and sometimes they'll hit .250, and often be around .360 OBP. Huge difference for the same rating in player. Simply having that makes it harder to win more games. and destroy records.

The differences between hitting .333 and .250 is because of the league totals. Not the version of the game.

Ratings alone don't produce results. Ratings with League totals produces results.

[jcard]

Originally Posted by OutS|der

The differences between hitting .333 and .250 is because of the league totals. Not the version of the game.

League totals are important, but no league total disparity within any plausible realistic window would account for that difference in results.

[KRSW]

Originally Posted by Samueltbaum

I don't know if its this way for others?

The idea that there is an invisible ceiling is absurd to me as well.

I too have seen several losing teams make the playoffs. If you are not happy you can change the playoff setup however you want.