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Old 07-20-2023, 01:34 PM   #21
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Secondary Logos with small white borders.

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Old 07-20-2023, 05:49 PM   #22
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20_range, EC will try to keep it simple and not micro manage so much... I am rebranding the San Dimas Rancheros.

Team: San Dimas Firebrands
A firebrand is a ball of fire, a hustler, a go-getter... couple this with a branding iron and see what you come up with... hope you can make branding iron using the intertwined SD.
I know it's a stretch to connect the ranching industry with a baseball fanatic.

You pick appropriate colors and images... I will stay out of it... EC doesn't want to dampen your creative ideas.

To help you, here is the town history:

San Dimas Firebrands (aka Rancheros 2002-2078)
Owner: Esai Montanez
GM: Paco Banderes
Manager: Wesley Pate

San Dimas is located in the southeastern tip of Ruthlandia on the Valerian Ocean in the swampy lowlands. The town and its surrounding area were founded by Spanish settlers in the 1700s. Originally, the area was called Mud Springs, but when this name proved to be troublesome in recruiting new settlers from Spain, it was changed to San Dimas.

Because of its remote location, San Dimas remained largely a ranching area until the start of the 20th century. The San Dimas climate was perfect for farming, and in 1903 the San Dimas Irrigation Company was formed, and the following year the Ruthlandia Railway Line reached San Dimas. The combination of the two established the town as the heart of a vast agricultural community that continues to thrive to this day. Oranges, grapefruits, sugar cane, and all types of vegetables are grown in the San Dimas region.

Despite agriculture taking over as the dominant economic force, ranching remains the face of the community. Each February brings the San Dimas Exposition and Livestock show to the Stockyards, kicking off a three-week celebration that includes the largest rodeo in Ruthlandia. The area around the old Stockyards has been preserved as a Ruthlandia Historic Site and includes a state of the art Western museum along with renovated stores that recreate old San Dimas.

Some of San Dimas' other highlights include San Dimas A & M University. A & M is the finest agricultural university in the nation and the center for most cultural activities in town.

As evidenced by the town name, San Dimas’ culture is still very rooted in its Spanish heritage. "Dimas" in Spanish is the name of the penitent thief on the cross with Jesus. Many of the buildings still reflect the architecture of the Spanish colonial era. These influences can be further seen in music and food as well. San Dimas boasts more tapas bars than anywhere else in the country, and flamenco is very popular in many of the local establishments.

The Rancheros struggled for many years at the box office as the team played second fiddle to the ever popular rodeo. In 1974 the club was purchased by Esai Montanez, changing the team’s fortunes almost immediately. Mr. Montanez held numerous promotions and promoted a lively, fan-friendly atmosphere at the ballpark. The team was so successful that dozens of other owners came to San Dimas to attend seminars on how to model their franchise after the Rancheros. The atmosphere continues to this day as the team employs a pig to bring the umpires balls between innings and is still famous for its many other whacky promotions. Among the more popular promotions are Trekkie Night where fans wearing their Star Trek costumes get in for $1 and two-for-one beer nights dubbed “Thirsty Thursdays.” The seventh-inning stretch features flamenco dancers on both dugouts, and fans can expect to be entertained by the team’s mascot, “Bucky the Bronco.”

Another successful aspect of the Montanez ownership has been the construction of Ranchero Park. The project was a combination of public and private financing with the town paying for all of the infrastructure costs and the Montanez family paying the stadium construction costs. Ranchero Park was opened to the public in time for opening day 1988 and has been a huge success for both the club and San Dimas. Originally it held just over 6,500 fans, but in 2002 for their debut into the Islandian Pro Alliance, the club built a picnic area, luxury suites and bleachers in left field that has added an additional 1,000 seats.

The general manager and former field manager of the Rancheros is Paco Banderes. He is one of the few managers in the Islandian Pro Alliance that did not play in amateur or industrial leagues. Banderes always says, "I was always the last one chosen when we would choose up sides on the playground." But that didn't keep him from being a successful manager in company league circles. "When it comes to baseball, I may not be able to do it, but I can sure heck tell you how to do it. And there ain't too many guys around that can out-manage me, either!"

The current skipper for the Rancheros is a former player, Hermie Goetz. who was a journeyman catcher with club for 12 years (2036-2047). Goetz posted a career .286 batting average from 2005 to 2018 with 98 homers and 685 RBIs... he was voted to the All-Star team one time in '43.

Ranchero Park (1988)
Capacity: 7,500

Dimensions:

LF Line 330
LF 350
LCF 375
CF 402
RCF 375
RF 350
RF Line 330
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Old 07-20-2023, 07:27 PM   #23
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I can try, but didn't Kevin do this one? I remember there was difficulty getting the branding iron to look right.
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Old 07-20-2023, 08:37 PM   #24
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I can try, but didn't Kevin do this one? I remember there was difficulty getting the branding iron to look right.
Yes, Kevin did it, but he wasn't pleased with it... you're right, the branding iron angle never looked right, especially on the secondary logos.

Here is the best primary he came up with.

I liked this one, but never could find a good secondary logo to match it.

Would you rather do another team?

Do you want me to give you some idea of what kind of logo I would like for each team?... do you want me to give you the team colors?

I thought I was too bossy on the Hartsdale Hellcats and wanted to give you more leeway on future logos.

How would you like me to handle the instructions for each team?
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Honestly, I looked up some pictures of what branding cows looks like ad they made me want to be a vegan I was thinking maybe I'd do something like this modern art of a cow looking at a painting of a cow, or a 19th century painting of a cow, or maybe like first base has just been branded with the branding iron, so the logo is red and steaming on a white-gray first base

So maybe a different team for now? but I also will try those three things out a bit (if my kid goes to sleep)

You were fine with your instructions and suggestions. Keep on with those. I will bring whatever associations i get from the teams and the write ups, and try to mock up a few iptions for concepts. And it helps me a lot to specify the color codes, or at least color ideas.

I'll try out that steaming first base idea
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Old 07-20-2023, 10:36 PM   #26
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Honestly, I looked up some pictures of what branding cows looks like ad they made me want to be a vegan I was thinking maybe I'd do something like this modern art of a cow looking at a painting of a cow, or a 19th century painting of a cow, or maybe like first base has just been branded with the branding iron, so the logo is red and steaming on a white-gray first base

So maybe a different team for now? but I also will try those three things out a bit (if my kid goes to sleep)

You were fine with your instructions and suggestions. Keep on with those. I will bring whatever associations i get from the teams and the write ups, and try to mock up a few iptions for concepts. And it helps me a lot to specify the color codes, or at least color ideas.

I'll try out that steaming first base idea
20_range, just do what holds or piques your interest... if ideas don't come easily, then just tell me to move to the next team.

I like hurricanekevin's San Dimas Firebrands primary logo.

Do you think you can create a secondary logo for it?

A sizzling, red-hot intertwined SD that looks like a branding iron would be great.

Here is an old South Fork logo in the form of a branding iron.
Would it be possible to create one like this with the intertwined SD?
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Old 07-20-2023, 11:00 PM   #27
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Growler Primary Logo

I like this one if there were some way to use HARTSDALE and not split it up... maybe placing it at the bottom might do it... might use a fuller, wider font that would show up better.
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here's one more.



also, do you want the color codes in the file name (that's what I typically do, because I let the game make the uniforms), or without (like I have done so far)?
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here's one more.



also, do you want the color codes in the file name (that's what I typically do, because I let the game make the uniforms), or without (like I have done so far)?
Excellent... you have done a fine job on the Hartsdale Hellcats... this one has everything: tiger, Hartsdale, baseball and bottle... now I ask you, can we fit in a kit and a caboodle, too?

No color codes needed... I already have uniforms.


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The color code for the red on the San Dimas Firebrands (243, 69, 63).
It's a bright reddish orange.

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San Dimas Firebrands

Here's some improvable options I made after my kid finally went to sleep (at ten pm)


this shape is basically copied from the two things you posted. let me know which colors you want where. I downloaded kevin's logo and can use those colors, and/or the ones from the SF logo you posted, and the swatch.


Also here is my experimental smoke cloud, branding cows seems cruel so I have decided to brand this glove (which is made out of processed cow skin, so...)
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Old 07-21-2023, 01:16 PM   #31
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Very fine job on the SD Secondary Logo... it's a keeper.

That finishes up the Hartsdale Hellcats.... very pleased with it.

Very creative with the SD on the glove... agree with your philosophy... shouldn't treat animals like that... we could be more humane.

Will post the next one this evening or tomorrow... got to go somewhere this afternoon.

Thanks for such a good job on the Hellcats.
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On second thought... could you do a Secondary Logo for San Dimas with just the glove and the SD branded in it?... no cloud.

I think I may use that... it's cowhide and baseball... that represents the Firebrands very very well... yep, very very well.

It is unique and very creative... and humane, too.
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Yes, if I have more time tonight or this weekend (...lol) I have a bunch of improvements I'd like to make to make the SD brand on the glove look better. If I can get it to look right then I will do a few different versions, like a San Dimas wordmark, and an SD small logo.
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I will just wait until you finish up what you want to do for the San Dimas Firebirds.
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Here are the rgb color codes for the San Dimas Firebrands.

Reddish Orange (243,69,63)
Dark Red (170,0,0)

If you need to, use black and white for secondary colors.
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San Dimas Firebrands

Here are more that are better


the last two represent ideas that didn't really work, the cattle cattle brand on the glove and a rope border
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San Dimas small logos

including the cattle cattle brand
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San Dimas Firebrands

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My gosh, you are a talented dude, dude.
Love that glove with the SD... like the way you outlined it in orange.
Thanks for the lighter color on the glove... it makes a big difference with much better contrast.
Love the lariat.
It will be tough to chose the one I like best.

You done good again, again, again and again.
Thank you.

Take a well-deserved rest this weekend.

Enjoy your family.

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Thanks! I'm really glad you like them.

I'm proud of these - I really had no idea what I was going to do, and Kevin had already tried, but I feel like they came out well and I am going to use them to. I found that there is a city in California called San Dimas

The sleep is... unpredictable post another team so I can start thinking about it
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