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Old 01-25-2022, 02:48 PM   #21
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Hope I am wrong here , but with ownership now up the food chain, in spite of the numerous reassurances , I think this will be the first year it will be very clear that more resources go into Perfect Game (which I do not play) instead of the original game.
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Old 01-25-2022, 03:14 PM   #22
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Hope I am wrong here , but with ownership now up the food chain, in spite of the numerous reassurances , I think this will be the first year it will be very clear that more resources go into Perfect Game (which I do not play) instead of the original game.
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and someone from OOTP will say its the deepest version yet
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Old 01-25-2022, 03:29 PM   #23
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i believe there will be new player models uniforms ect...
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Old 01-25-2022, 03:31 PM   #24
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I think that for things that will actually happen… most years there’s like one or two medium to large “gets” that we’ve been clamoring for or didn’t realize we needed until we got them. 3D was definitely one of them, with 3D stadia being a big part of that too. I think news stories *could* get revamped. If I had to think of big things that similar titles have that OOTP does not, probably the player interactions that FM has. Perhaps they don’t do much outside of having impact on morale but I could see having those. Also, along those lines, the “do I push this guy into playing a little more now or put him on the DL” dilemma you get in FM could be added.

I guess, too, now that we have coaches who handle players and do stuff, we could have those coaches… do more stuff, like pitching coaches who teach new pitches (it’d be cool to have a guy who just teaches all who will listen how to throw the splitter a la Roger Craig for example), hitting coaches who modify how hitters hit (a la Walt Hriniak) and so on.

Yes, along these lines I think it could be realistic to think "promised player roles" could finally be brought in for contract negotiations....this to me would actually be beneficial for the AI, as roles are pre-determined and therefore not really subject to much change. (unless an extreme situation perhaps)
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Old 01-25-2022, 03:36 PM   #25
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Hope I am wrong here , but with ownership now up the food chain, in spite of the numerous reassurances , I think this will be the first year it will be very clear that more resources go into Perfect Game (which I do not play) instead of the original game.
well I think this is entertaining everyone's worst fears for sure. I suppose that's part of why I started this thread in the first place. There really isn't any "hype" or sense of excitement around here as far as the new version goes, and really, if you think about it, it's not that far off.

I might have thought one of the more positive ways to take advantage of ownership with supposedly much deeper pockets and resources would be to utilize the "hype machine" similarly to the way Sports Interactive does with SEGA.
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Old 01-25-2022, 04:22 PM   #26
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and someone from OOTP will say its the deepest version yet
I think you have hit on something, that is almost guaranteed to happen. Of course, all they have to do is add one new feature, and it is always the deepest version yet.
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Old 01-25-2022, 05:53 PM   #27
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Nobody knows what's realistic except the devs. Personally, I don't care what's realistic. I care about the things I want to see added/changed/improved. I'm sure the vast majority feels the same. That's why this thread turned into another wishlist.
But there's no need to hijack this thread as there are ample wishlist threads out there.
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Old 01-25-2022, 07:09 PM   #28
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We won't even get the usual "brand new up to date 2022 rooster" line this year... for those who aren't me since I never reach modern day in one year.
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Old 01-25-2022, 07:12 PM   #29
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The special sale prices won't be as low.
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Old 01-26-2022, 08:47 AM   #30
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Its really hard to separate what you want to happen from what you think might happen because you tend to think mostly about the additions you want. But since there have been several folks requesting team sortable stats and it seems an obvious omission from what's available in actual baseball leagues, I think they might look at actually adding that. I also think it's a given that there will be "exciting" new changes/additions to perfect team, for as mentioned above, it's what keeps the gears turning. An area I think that hasn't been touched for a while that might get some love is the financial part of the game. It could use a relook since the scouting & coaching parts have recently got upgrades. But then again, these may be more of my personal wish list than an objective analysis of the devs viewpoint.
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Old 01-26-2022, 10:15 AM   #31
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improved logic and 3d animations... because its in every version lol
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Old 01-26-2022, 10:16 AM   #32
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Hope I am wrong here , but with ownership now up the food chain, in spite of the numerous reassurances , I think this will be the first year it will be very clear that more resources go into Perfect Game (which I do not play) instead of the original game.
first year? 22 definitely felt like this.
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improved logic and 3d animations... because its in every version lol
And sometimes it's noticeable! LOL
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Its really hard to separate what you want to happen from what you think might happen because you tend to think mostly about the additions you want. But since there have been several folks requesting team sortable stats and it seems an obvious omission from what's available in actual baseball leagues, I think they might look at actually adding that. I also think it's a given that there will be "exciting" new changes/additions to perfect team, for as mentioned above, it's what keeps the gears turning. An area I think that hasn't been touched for a while that might get some love is the financial part of the game. It could use a relook since the scouting & coaching parts have recently got upgrades. But then again, these may be more of my personal wish list than an objective analysis of the devs viewpoint.


This is a good one I think actually. Seems pretty realistic to me....sortable team stats that is.
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Old 01-26-2022, 02:10 PM   #35
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I do think it’s a shame there isn’t more hype surrounding this release. Markus & Co have emphatically stated things will only improve when it comes to the development of OOTP’s core game (resources, money, talent etc) so I would certainly see this as an opportunity to prove the naysayers wrong (if I were him) by taking these new resources out for a test spin.

I realize right now, operations seem to be working as status Quo (since most years there hasn’t been an announcement until sometime in February) and perhaps the CBA negotiations are playing a role in things also.

The problem to me lately (and this is worldwide..not just OOTPD) so many businesses and governments are really leaning on COVID as a crutch when it comes to why things haven’t been up to standard. It’s funny how some restaurants pulled it off without a hitch, and others are constantly apologizing for lack of quality and/or service. MLB has done a reasonable job of keeping their product alive, but it has also caused mass disorganization when it comes to rules, finances etc.. so, I can see where it may have been tough to implement some MLB specific features, but I have always contended if each feature is adjustable, it would benefit both fictional and modern day MLB players.

Anyway, I’m just sort of thinking out loud, since I can remember a time when people would be “jacked” about a new OOTP release…and too be honest, I think great things are still on the horizon for the base game, but I seem to be a minority in that sentiment lately.
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Old 01-26-2022, 04:45 PM   #36
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I do think it’s a shame there isn’t more hype surrounding this release. Markus & Co have emphatically stated things will only improve when it comes to the development of OOTP’s core game (resources, money, talent etc) so I would certainly see this as an opportunity to prove the naysayers wrong (if I were him) by taking these new resources out for a test spin.
It matters not what he says or does, it is never enough. He just as well spit into the wind. He can say whatever he wants but it doesn't change the "fact" that OOTP is being killed by PT.

Sorry, not even beginning to understand Covid and how it has affected the quality of OOTP?

To the point of the thread it seems to me we are in a cycle of continually improving OOTP 3d. My speculation is OOTP continues to concentrate on this as the "big" feature. My best guess is improved player models, dressed in better and perhaps multiple unis, along with better accessories. IE batting helmets with logos, one ear flap, no ear flap, or being able to select none and play in cloth hats for historical. Hoping for player movement between plays, IE players milling about between action etc. to add a more realistic atmosphere to the games.

Improvement to the gui with more view options, team stats sortable, and being able to adjust column
widths. May not get all of these but I think we will get some and hopefully things I haven't even thought of.
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It matters not what he says or does, it is never enough. He just as well spit into the wind. He can say whatever he wants but it doesn't change the "fact" that OOTP is being killed by PT.

Sorry, not even beginning to understand Covid and how it has affected the quality of OOTP?

To the point of the thread it seems to me we are in a cycle of continually improving OOTP 3d. My speculation is OOTP continues to concentrate on this as the "big" feature. My best guess is improved player models, dressed in better and perhaps multiple unis, along with better accessories. IE batting helmets with logos, one ear flap, no ear flap, or being able to select none and play in cloth hats for historical. Hoping for player movement between plays, IE players milling about between action etc. to add a more realistic atmosphere to the games.

Improvement to the gui with more view options, team stats sortable, and being able to adjust column
widths. May not get all of these but I think we will get some and hopefully things I haven't even thought of.
I agree, I think it would be wise to finally update the entire player model (pants, names and numbers on backs) and add more uniform options. The new 3D stadiums look great, so not much left to do there IMO
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Old 01-26-2022, 05:10 PM   #38
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It matters not what he says or does, it is never enough. He just as well spit into the wind. He can say whatever he wants but it doesn't change the "fact" that OOTP is being killed by PT.

Sorry, not even beginning to understand Covid and how it has affected the quality of OOTP?

To the point of the thread it seems to me we are in a cycle of continually improving OOTP 3d. My speculation is OOTP continues to concentrate on this as the "big" feature. My best guess is improved player models, dressed in better and perhaps multiple unis, along with better accessories. IE batting helmets with logos, one ear flap, no ear flap, or being able to select none and play in cloth hats for historical. Hoping for player movement between plays, IE players milling about between action etc. to add a more realistic atmosphere to the games.

Improvement to the gui with more view options, team stats sortable, and being able to adjust column
widths. May not get all of these but I think we will get some and hopefully things I haven't even thought of.
Sweed, hope you are right about improving and perfecting the animation.
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Old 01-26-2022, 05:58 PM   #39
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I think it's pretty much a given they will work to improve animation...as Markus has said before...the animation & PT development teams are completely seperate from the core OOTP part...which is why I think it's very interesting to try to come up with what headline features the "core" development team may or may not come up with. (realistically)
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OOTP will continue to prioritize improvements in the presentation over correcting defects in the substance. This thread and many others show that is the priority of the users and in addition it's easier to do.
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