Do these guys work for OOTP?

[Magus978]

Originally Posted by professor ape

His 90 Stuff and 70 Control are great, he has a very small platoon split and his 50 stamina is a plus compared to most of the “must have” starters. In my recent tracking he has had a 3.27 ERA in 388 starts. Take it or leave it.

We'll see what happens. I'm never comfortable giving up defense, and had to drop Baldelli for the outfield disaster that is Darryl Hamilton. Punting defense pretty hard as it is, so it's not ideal. (Running Ralph Hodgin in left, Joe Birmingham in center, Endy Chavez in right)

[Warfsu]

This is my first year playing OOTP, so I’ve been doing a lot of learning on the run. I agree 100% that winning tournaments is the best way to go, especially as you move up through the levels and you aren’t accusing PP as much as you were in Rookie and Stone.

I haven’t actively followed a single tournament that I’ve entered. I simply try to make sure I’m always in 3 tournaments at a time. When it feels like I haven’t been winning for a while, I’ll go through some tournaments I don’t win, and check out the rosters of the winners, then try to build my rosters close enough to those teams (basically a combination of the most rostered guys that I have cards of). That usually gets me off the losing streak. While I’m sure other people have better methods, but this is a very easy way to easily get 15+ packs every single day.

I certainly don’t have the roster the OP provided, but I have about 10 of the FH#3, and have about 90% of the non FH#3 missions completed.

[Mikecouil]

Originally Posted by Dodger_Dave

I find it hard to believe that a F2P team could complete every mission... Congrats if you did but I barely have a handful of 100's on my F2P.
Also... this Mike dude is the reason I the world is full of bullying. Sad world we live in.

You came in trashing a guy who has a better team than you in a freemium game and threw around baseless allegations and passive aggressive insults and in typical troll fashion play the victim when someone calls you out on it. Way to be a stereotype.

Spend some time getting better at the game and less time hating.

[Hertston]

Originally Posted by Magus978

Clearly my problem is tactics because I have not cashed in a tournament since Monday. I've found the strategies to be completely hopeless if you don't know what you're doing, and I apparently fall into that category.

My scouting of players has let me down more than ever this year as I barely even know what our team's strengths are. If I go by what the game throws back at me, we are awesome at being completely awful at every aspect. Getting the players that the winners use means nothing when you have absolutely no idea how to implement them properly. That's how I've pretty much given up on regaining any kind of tournament traction.

Noted, but I still hold out for it being primarily a numbers game rather than finessing tactical choices and sliders, as long as anything too daft is avoided. A team full of power hitters who run the bases on one leg will not do well at small-ball!

For example, last week I was averaging around ten packs a day until Friday, when I picked up over 50. With the right players you will get results simply due to the wonders of RNG. The tactical maestros just get slightly better results overall than the rest of us; they still get nothing out of the majority they enter. Don't lose hope. Poor streaks are common, but good ones come along too .

[Hertston]

Originally Posted by Mikecouil

You came in trashing a guy who has a better team than you in a freemium game and threw around baseless allegations and passive aggressive insults and in typical troll fashion play the victim when someone calls you out on it. Way to be a stereotype.

Spend some time getting better at the game and less time hating.

This is getting a bit OTT. Dave didn't 'trash' anybody because he didn't name anybody. His original comments were largely mistaken, but also largely understandable from his perspective, and he has been corrected. End of.

[Mikecouil]

Originally Posted by Hertston

This is getting a bit OTT. Dave didn't 'trash' anybody because he didn't name anybody. His original comments were largely mistaken, but also largely understandable from his perspective, and he has been corrected. End of.

End of what?

I stand by my comments, especially after the guy comes back a second time to call me a "bully" because he doesn't comprehend what the word means.

[professor ape]

Originally Posted by Hertston

Noted, but I still hold out for it being primarily a numbers game rather than finessing tactical choices and sliders, as long as anything too daft is avoided. A team full of power hitters who run the bases on one leg will not do well at small-ball!

For example, last week I was averaging around ten packs a day until Friday, when I picked up over 50. With the right players you will get results simply due to the wonders of RNG. The tactical maestros just get slightly better results overall than the rest of us; they still get nothing out of the majority they enter. Don't lose hope. Poor streaks are common, but good ones come along too .

What he said. Just focus on getting the best team on the field. I use the Moderate Sabermetric setting and just leave it at that. My strongest recommendation as I noted earlier is to have the eight man pen. The low stamina for starters and lack of rest days make this very different than how I manage my primary team.

[dishnet34]

Originally Posted by Magus978

Interesting about Tyler Wells. I don't see anything special about him. The Extreme FB doesn't sit well with me at all, and combined with his sketchy movement, anyone with any semblance of power in their lineups will crush him (if they don't strike out) and it's goodnight da lights.

I was somehow able to finagle an extra pitcher into my bullpen (Erskine Mayer), but now I'm punting backup defense. Not a trade-off I'm comfortable with at all.

The Tyler Wells is pretty good - in Iron (not sure about Bronze), because you won't find a whole lot of power hitters in most lineups, having low movement doesn't matter much for pitchers - what's more important in those lower-level tourneys are stuff and control - if you can get guys to strike out with high stuff and good control on your pitches, you're golden.

Which is the main reason Tyler Wells sees a lot of play.

[Fabtron7]

I am not F2P and completed these missions about 45 seconds after they dropped... Just a LOT of players I know.

I do not work for OOTP.... Yet.

[TwanLX2000]

Like Hertston, I didn't have a lot of the FH3 collections finished at launch, but likewise could have under different circumstances, and I haven't dropped a penny of real money this season, nor have I bought a single pack with PP.

Aside from the TM2 and Historical missions, I had the majority of the FH related missions finished on launch, but it was from A) building a massive storage of cheap lower-level cards before they were attached to missions and B) learning to use them to flood the Bronze Bo7 tournaments with tactics previously mentioned. Then it's a matter of winning enough packs to run into a lucky card or two a week. Once I slightly modify my bronze team after each live update, I'm doing nothing with cards or strategies -- just hitting "join" multiple times a day during my work breaks.

So I had to start with Gwynn (the only one I had finished) and back fill my middle of the year missions at a cheaper price, but it's starting to come together. My bronze stash finally paid off for Prime Performer and Selects Historical missions, and didn't cost a lot of PP to get there.

That said, the Gwynn card was exciting enough and plays like a world beater in gold (Raines/Gwynn at the front of the lineup is a lot of fun). Hopefully, I'll have some of these others finished when I make the jump again.

[professor ape]

Raines was a rock (pun intended) for me in LF at Diamond until the FH3 drop. Being a strong switch hitter meant that I didn’t have to worry about platooning him, his D was solid, and he was a terror on the base paths. It pained me to drop him for my current Ted/Hank setup out there.

[TwanLX2000]

Originally Posted by professor ape

Raines was a rock (pun intended) for me in LF at Diamond until the FH3 drop. Being a strong switch hitter meant that I didn’t have to worry about platooning him, his D was solid, and he was a terror on the base paths. It pained me to drop him for my current Ted/Hank setup out there.

I keep thinking I'll be given a reason to move on from Raines, and I'll probably have to back in Diamond. But yeah, he hasn't failed me yet, and it's been great watching my "80s style" lineup work on all cylinders this week. If I'm not leading the league in steals and efficiency, I'm doing something wrong.

Coming full circle... the switch hitting is important in building a Bo7 tournament team: if I make it sound as simple as "copy other people's winning teams," my build is a little more nuanced than that. Since there's always the potential for multi-day stretches when series go the full seven (leading to ZERO days off), I don't have traditional bench guys. I wouldn't be surprised if many winning teams are similar, but mine are constructed mostly of switch-hitting, multi-positional guys that make a lineup diverse and interchangeable. My five man "bench" is either part of a traditional platoon or a super utility guy that starts as often as not. I feel like this is a big plus in the Bo7 tournaments, and will usually take precedent over pure ratings. Everyone plays three games out of four without having to set it up that way.

Like Professor Ape advised earlier, I employ 13 pitchers, because a tired bullpen in Bo7 is an easy way to lose. I toggle my starters so that the lower stamina guys don't pitch in direct order to give my long relievers rest. These are little things, but when everyone is tossing out variations of the same guys, those little things make a difference.

[Bunktown Ballers]

U right

[Bunktown Ballers]

Originally Posted by professor ape

Raines was a rock (pun intended) for me in LF at Diamond until the FH3 drop. Being a strong switch hitter meant that I didn’t have to worry about platooning him, his D was solid, and he was a terror on the base paths. It pained me to drop him for my current Ted/Hank setup out there.

He hit .320+ with 80+ steals in the 1 time I made a Diamond league. But if you look around leagues there is so much variation with players

[Hertston]

Originally Posted by TwanLX2000

Like Hertston, I didn't have a lot of the FH3 collections finished at launch, but likewise could have under different circumstances, and I haven't dropped a penny of real money this season, nor have I bought a single pack with PP.

I'm getting there.. now up to 20 from my original 13. My biggest mistake was selling some of the earlier cards for what seemed necessary purposes at the time and now having to buy them back at inflated prices; lesson learned. The other problem, of course, is the ludicrous price inflation on silvers in all missions, but particularly the two in which I had only one card between them, Tampa and Pittsburgh. Those are so far away I'm not even bothering until the prices drop at some point - hopefully.

[daves]

Originally Posted by Hertston

I'm getting there.. now up to 20 from my original 13. My biggest mistake was selling some of the earlier cards for what seemed necessary purposes at the time and now having to buy them back at inflated prices; lesson learned. The other problem, of course, is the ludicrous price inflation on silvers in all missions, but particularly the two in which I had only one card between them, Tampa and Pittsburgh. Those are so far away I'm not even bothering until the prices drop at some point - hopefully.

When I rank my league by Completed missions, around half my Diamond league has completed FH3. I am not sure teams can compete in Diamond or higher without completing this mission?

There are 14 Tris Speakers in my league (all leagues topper). It is unbelievable how the competition changed in a week due to FH3.

[Warfsu]

You really need to have a lot of the FH3 missions completed to compete in Diamond right now. I’m hovering around .500 (after an 0-7 start) and I’ve completed about half of them. Get used to seeing some combo of Johnson, Koufax, Spahn, and Clemens in most rotations.

Generally, I’ve had some really good pitching staffs no matter the level. This is easily my most I’ve struggled pitching wise, as my Gooden’s, Cliff Lee’s, and Pedro’s don’t hold up anymore. Even Seaver really hasn’t been that good since I got him. I’ve been using all my PP to complete the NL West teams to get Randy Johnson.

Why is CJ Cron’s Select 100k????

[daves]

Originally Posted by Warfsu

Why is CJ Cron’s Select 100k????

That is actually cheaper than finishing the Colorado Selects mission requirements for FH3 portion.

[Mikecouil]

Originally Posted by Warfsu

You really need to have a lot of the FH3 missions completed to compete in Diamond right now. I’m hovering around .500 (after an 0-7 start) and I’ve completed about half of them. Get used to seeing some combo of Johnson, Koufax, Spahn, and Clemens in most rotations.

Generally, I’ve had some really good pitching staffs no matter the level. This is easily my most I’ve struggled pitching wise, as my Gooden’s, Cliff Lee’s, and Pedro’s don’t hold up anymore. Even Seaver really hasn’t been that good since I got him. I’ve been using all my PP to complete the NL West teams to get Randy Johnson.

Why is CJ Cron’s Select 100k????

Market manipulation.

[chazzycat]

It's more likely to be good old fashioned supply & demand than anything nefarious, IMO. This was bound to happen when they created the select missions using mostly brand new cards with very low number of cards in supply. Obviously the demand for FH toppers is sky high. Low supply + high demand = high prices, that's just basic economics.