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[ineedplayerpics]

Originally Posted by Drivehud.com

Sure.. if you have no life and pull some big historics you can sell, anything is possible.There's no way you can do it w/o getting lucky though. Going to call BS on that.

You spend so much time on the forum of a game that you don’t enjoy playing, someone needs to take a long look in the mirror 😂😂

[Cowboys3356]

Originally Posted by Drivehud.com

Sure.. if you have no life and pull some big historics you can sell, anything is possible.There's no way you can do it w/o getting lucky though. Going to call BS on that.

You are kind of unpleasant. I would suggest that you join the Perfect Team Discord, you would fit in really well over there!

[Drivehud.com]

Originally Posted by Cowboys3356

You are kind of unpleasant. I would suggest that you join the Perfect Team Discord, you would fit in really well over there!

Says the guy who turns forum opinions personal.

Guy posts asking opinions, people give their opinions. The latest mission sucks, I think most people would agree with that. Most other missions are fine. Guy then comes in and says that people who don't like it, must just not want to do the "work" in the game.

Another guy comes in to brag about his F2P team. Do you think acquiring a team he's claiming is possible without spending most of your life on this game and getting lucky with some big card pulls? Should we poll some f2p players?

This is a forum for a GAME. Let's not look for reasons to turn things personal.

[ineedplayerpics]

Originally Posted by Drivehud.com

Says the guy who turns forum opinions personal.

Guy posts asking opinions, people give their opinions. The latest mission sucks, I think most people would agree with that. Most other missions are fine. Guy then comes in and says that people who don't like it, must just not want to do the "work" in the game.

Another guy comes in to brag about his F2P team. Do you think acquiring a team he's claiming is possible without spending most of your life on this game and getting lucky with some big card pulls? Should we poll some f2p players?

This is a forum for a GAME. Let's not look for reasons to turn things personal.

Idk why you’re so mad that my F2P team is so good, not everyone can be good at this game I guess lol, you are the one making things personal by saying we have no life and are wasting are time lol. What are you smoking?

[bailey]

Originally Posted by daves

I am not sure how if I like it or hate the constant building of collections?

I might get some decent cards, but I just locked a Pete Rose card worth more than the rest of my team for a Cueto that is worth half of the Rose card. But selling any of these cards can cost me better cards in the future?

How would you rate it and what are your thoughts?

I voted "10". It's the best design ever in PT. It's very logical and each level builds on the other. I feel very confident I can complete the series in the next forty weeks by winning packs in tournaments, watching streams for twitch drops, earning more packs from collections and not by spending real money.

[daves]

I sold a perfect legend to complete the Rose legend. I guess I need to buy it back with some of the live missions players I sold!


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[Kris Jardine]

we don't have the "thanks" button anymore, so just a general message of thanks for the feedback in this thread, keep it coming

[Play4Thrills]

I like that the best cards in the game (generally) are mission rewards. Because of the number of options avialable in completing missions (e.g. you might need 3 out of 8 possible cards), the best cards in the game are more accessible. If the best cards were only ultra-rare issued in packs, we would all have to save up 700,000 PP just to have a chance at them (see Boggs, Simmons, Reuss). You could open 1,000 packs and never find them, but the same number of packs will probably net you quite a few of the top players available through mission rewards.

[HemBear]

The entire idea was very cool. The franchise heroes which weren’t as good as the locked cards didn’t make a lot of sense to me and shaded my thoughts a bit. If these cards were better or equal to the cards being locked then it would be great. Perhaps if the BAL cards locks are used later I will be happier. I loved the BAL. that was really cool.

[daves]

Originally Posted by HemBear

The entire idea was very cool. The franchise heroes which weren’t as good as the locked cards didn’t make a lot of sense to me and shaded my thoughts a bit. If these cards were better or equal to the cards being locked then it would be great. Perhaps if the BAL cards locks are used later I will be happier. I loved the BAL. that was really cool.

I think the cards will improve in the next series. But you are right, the Franchise Heroes cards locked better cards than the reward.

[tedster]

I think the overall program has been pretty good, but the drip feeding of content has been slow to the point that a "disappointing" content drop (i.e. Franchise Heroes 1) feels particularly bad because you're faced with the following decisions:

1. Lock a bunch of cards for lower-value rewards (doesn't feel good)
2. Sell the cards/cash out hoping future mission rewards are mediocre (doesn't feel good)
3. Hold onto the cards, waiting to see what happens but locking up your assets in the meantime while their value potentially drops (doesn't feel good)

On top of that there's another gamble taking place where you decide whether to complete/buy more BaL cards while prices drop, which can be fun for high-rolling speculators but is an additional stress for some people.

I think the issue here is that none of the options feel good in the moment and due to having to wait 2-4 weeks minimum to see the next round of payoffs, that's a lot of time to wait to see if you screwed up with the partial information you had.

I really like the program overall but I think the pacing has made these gambles feel worse than they would otherwise..

[Hertston]

Originally Posted by Drivehud.com

Sure.. .There's no way you can do it w/o getting lucky though. Going to call BS on that.

Agreed.. although as in most things you make your own luck. The more tournaments you enter and the better the team you build, the more packs you win and the better chance of drawing big money cards you have. If you don't invest money you have to invest sufficient time and the vast majority of players are unable or unwilling to do either.

What people need to understand is that that IS the business model. OOTP and their owners have no interest in 'FTP' players beyond ensuring there remain enough of them for the minority 'whales', the continued extraction of whose money is the prime purpose of PT, to beat up on. You cannot have a small population of high spending winners without a much larger population of low or non-spending losers. If the occasional FTP player bucks the trend, good luck to them.. as long as the mechanics ensure they are very few and far between.

[ineedplayerpics]

Originally Posted by Hertston

Agreed.. although as in most things you make your own luck. The more tournaments you enter and the better the team you build, the more packs you win and the better chance of drawing big money cards you have. If you don't invest money you have to invest sufficient time and the vast majority of players are unable or unwilling to do either.

What people need to understand is that that IS the business model. OOTP and their owners have no interest in 'FTP' players beyond ensuring there remain enough of them for the minority 'whales', the continued extraction of whose money is the prime purpose of PT, to beat up on. You cannot have a small population of high spending winners without a much larger population of low or non-spending losers. If the occasional FTP player bucks the trend, good luck to them.. as long as the mechanics ensure they are very few and far between.

I played the numbers game, I spent all my PP on packs and sold all the cards I wasn’t going to use to buy more packs. The more packs you open, the better chance you will get good pulls. You can call it luck, but when you open thousands of packs, you WILL end up pulling the best cards in the game. Most F2P players don’t buy packs and only use the auction house, which is why their teams aren’t as good. It seems almost everyone on the forum uses that strategy. My question is, If you aren’t willing to invest time nor money how can to expect your team to be as good as the whales? I enjoy this game so I decided to invest my time in the early stages and I am reaping the rewards now.

[chazzycat]

Originally Posted by ineedplayerpics

I played the numbers game, I spent all my PP on packs and sold all the cards I wasn’t going to use to buy more packs. The more packs you open, the better chance you will get good pulls. You can call it luck, but when you open thousands of packs, you WILL end up pulling the best cards in the game. Most F2P players don’t buy packs and only use the auction house, which is why their teams aren’t as good. It seems almost everyone on the forum uses that strategy.

This is really oversimplified IMO. While there are times when buying packs was a good strategy (opening weekend, certainly) the average F2P player is most likely better off opening free packs from tourneys, and spending PP on the AH. I'm glad it worked for you, but that doesn't make it the superior strategy. There is at least one F2P (BFF) team in perfect league right now, along with 14 of us in diamond, mostly not using that strategy.

Back to the original topic though...honestly I don't know yet. It's an open question. The most recent batch where you had to lock very expensive 100 cards to get some fairly "meh" rewards is a big question mark. If it turns out you can just buy the Franchise Hero 1 cards and continue with the mission chain, not needing the BALs anymore...I think a lot of players will be pretty upset by how much time/money/effort they put into those.

Previously I have offered feedback that predictable mission structures lead to rampant market speculation, and it seems this feedback was incorporated this year, in a sense. The BAL cards switched up from year, to team, to position so that was kinda good. Unfortunately, the tier progression overall was still super obvious. So by the time we hit diamond tier, everyone knew that diamonds were next, but not WHICH diamonds. That just meant, the players sitting on huge stacks of PP who could afford to buy ALL the diamonds, made out like bandits. The poorer players were completely shut out, because it was still risky to gamble on individual diamonds. So that wasn't great.

[ineedplayerpics]

Originally Posted by chazzycat

This is really oversimplified IMO. While there are times when buying packs was a good strategy (opening weekend, certainly) the average F2P player is most likely better off opening free packs from tourneys, and spending PP on the AH. I'm glad it worked for you, but that doesn't make it the superior strategy. There is at least one F2P (BFF) team in perfect league right now, along with 14 of us in diamond, mostly not using that strategy.

I’m glad your strategy has worked for you and your BFF buddies, but that doesn’t make it the superior strategy either, there are plenty of F2P in diamond with my strategy too. The issue is people like you claim that there is only one way for F2P to play, and that is just way too oversimplified IMO

[chazzycat]

Originally Posted by ineedplayerpics

Most F2P players don’t buy packs and only use the auction house, which is why their teams aren’t as good.

this you?


Seems like a very definitive "my strategy is better" statement. I definitely agree there is no one correct way to play.

[ineedplayerpics]

Originally Posted by chazzycat

this you?


Seems like a very definitive "my strategy is better" statement. I definitely agree there is no one correct way to play.

I can quote you from many other posts telling everyone not too buy packs!! That’s a very definitive my strategy is better than yours too buddy, get off your high horse hypocrite

[bailey]

Originally Posted by ineedplayerpics

I can quote you from many other posts telling everyone not too buy packs!! That’s a very definitive my strategy is better than yours too buddy, get off your high horse hypocrite

I'm in the don't buy packs boat, because I figure 100+ packs a week from other sources and fill in collection holes via AH is the way to go. But, for the first week of the game, buy packs and sell everything is probably the way to go. Can you extract a million of other people's points by the end of the first week? I don't know, but I think I will try to next time.

[EvvCat]

My feedback on the original poll/question:

I really like the concept. Collecting and completing missions to get better reward cards, and having more very good - USABLE - cards to choose from is great. Plus, it's obvious certain players/cards will come later that should keep things engaging.

I'm finding it to be a double-edged sword though. The side effect of these missions seems to be a barren auction house. It doesn't appear the supply of historical diamonds has changed from last year, but with so many being locked in these missions the scarcity has gone way up. Supply vs. demand is out of balance.

I've stayed F2P and been able to build a contender in diamond because of tournaments and the missions, but I feel sorry for the players who didn't start PT from the beginning and are playing catch-up now, needing cards that just aren't often available.

[yno88]

I think the missions are fine. I don't understand why some of these rewards are diamonds rather than perfects. The Frank Thomas, Freddie Freeman and Mattingly are way better than most of the available 100 rated 1B. For example.