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Old 04-23-2021, 07:40 PM   #21
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This needs to be reported for sure. This isn't right.
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Old 04-23-2021, 11:28 PM   #22
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I'm puzzled. The only time that I see players behave that way is when they ask for one-year contracts and I respond by offering multiple years. They then frequently ask for larger one-year contracts. I suspect that the AI thinks, "I asked for $5M for one year. He offered $6M for two. That means that he thinks I'm worth $12M, so I'll ask for $8M."

On the other hand, when players ask for several years, I routinely counter with different numbers of years and different amounts for each year. I can't recall ever being asked for more than the original demand.

But maybe I've just been lucky and in my next contract negotiation will suffer what the OP and others have experienced.
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Old 04-24-2021, 02:50 PM   #23
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I'm puzzled. The only time that I see players behave that way is when they ask for one-year contracts and I respond by offering multiple years. They then frequently ask for larger one-year contracts. I suspect that the AI thinks, "I asked for $5M for one year. He offered $6M for two. That means that he thinks I'm worth $12M, so I'll ask for $8M."
This could be what's happening. That sounds like the kind of logic that might be going on with total value getting involved when the cause of the rejection was length.

It isn't just on one-year deals in my experience. Earlier I mentioned trying to negotiate an extension in an online league. He wanted an deal that potentially could be 8 years. I countered with 5 and he wanted eight years at 25% higher than his original demand. That could be a similar calculation going on. Original desired total value / years user offered = new offer amount at the years I want.

I've also seen it when players offer contracts with varying amounts per year. If you counteroffer, you suddenly lose that and they just offer largely uniform amounts per year. That's also disappointing. It makes it basically impossible to negotiate those contracts if you want to keep the same structure they offered. I often see this on the arbitration players - they'll offer a bit over arb for those years then more for the later years. But if you counter and they don't accept, it's just the vanilla all-years-the-same contract.

Same for vets that front load their offers. Or if they back load and you want to front load for the same value.

It happens in a lot of situations, but the one-year contracts are were it stands out dramatically and more obviously like in the scenario you presented.

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Old 04-24-2021, 06:31 PM   #24
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I just want an option to revert changes the player makes to the offered contract.
If I put in some time to make a 8 or 9 year deal and he counters with 1 year, I want to be able to go back to my proposed deal and amend it.
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