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Old 11-19-2020, 09:22 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by Charlie Hough View Post
There are so many logical fallacies going on in this post that I am going to make one final reply and move on. I have no issue with anyone here personally, but I don't have time to waste on straw man arguments and other bad reasoning.

Here is my exact, original quote:



Nothing in this statement implies or logically necessitates the exclusion of offensive production, missing out on certain players, or the acceptance of a significantly substandard bat in order to meet the recommended standard. And nothing in this statement implies or claims that this recommendation or priority must be followed at all costs.

I stated nothing in absolute terms.
Sure
But your original quote wasn't all that you said.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Hough View Post
And my advice is ONLY for shortstops as well as second basemen and center fielders.
It is the EXACT same at every position
A run allowed on defense needs to be offset by a run scored on offense.


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I simply said that I recommend that you avoid having an average shortstop and that I personally always make this a "priority" and "try" to make sure my shortstops and second basemen meet this standard.
Nope.
You said more than that. Everyone here can clearly read your statements

Perhaps you didn't post them as clearly as you thought and people have interpreted them other than how you meant them.


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-The only reason defense is more important at the up the middle positions is that there are more opportunities to make, or not make, plays.
-Not making a play at a corner position is probably more costly than not making a play up the middle since there's an increased chance of an unmade play resulting in an extra base hit.
-Any amount of defensive performance below average can be compensated for by an amount of offense above average.
-Good teams can absolutely have below average defensive players at SS, 2B, CF or C
-There can absolutely be better than average players at those positions who are below average on defense.
-Players at positions other than SS, 2B, CF and C can take away hits and prevent base runners from advancing.
-We can, and do, count (and quantify) defensive plays where baseruners advance or fail to advance.

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