Does anyone like the in-game sound design in 21? - Page 2

risp2out · 06-16-2020, 05:27 AM

Oh, see. I've never heard any of these announcements you guys are talking about home or away. Sound simply isn't working properly for me.

Harry Hibbs · 06-16-2020, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by risp2out

I get that there is some nice background nuance, but the lack of crowd reaction through most of the game is horrible. Not even a murmur for scoring plays or inning-ending strike outs. I like to hear a roar for a home run and a disappointed "oooohhhh" for a home team error. I hope a future patch will restore some GAME to the sound.

[And, btw, still a huge OOTP fan as I have been for many years, but want to lodge my gripe about this feature.]

The home fan reactions to plays (both good and bad) are there in 21 and they're actually improved and happen more consistently than in 20. I did find that I needed to turn them up to hear them properly though. You can do that in the pregame options menu here by adjusting the Ambient Volume.

seven · 06-16-2020, 01:24 PM

The odd thing I have noticed about sound in the current and previous years' versions of OOTP is that after playing out a game, with the sound working just fine, when I go to a game the next day, the sound is not working properly. There might be, for example, some general ambient crowd noise, but no action-specific crowd reaction and no big noise with a home team home run. Then the next day, the sound might be gone completely. So I quit the game and restart, then the sound returns.

I haven't tried checking the sound settings in the pre-game screen, so I'll check those next time this happens.

Harry Hibbs · 06-16-2020, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by seven

The odd thing I have noticed about sound in the current and previous years' versions of OOTP is that after playing out a game, with the sound working just fine, when I go to a game the next day, the sound is not working properly. There might be, for example, some general ambient crowd noise, but no action-specific crowd reaction and no big noise with a home team home run. Then the next day, the sound might be gone completely. So I quit the game and restart, then the sound returns.

I haven't tried checking the sound settings in the pre-game screen, so I'll check those next time this happens.

that could be something specific to your machine. You could try toggling the sound from the in game screen from enable to disable, start the game, then go back to the options page and enable sound again to see if that fixes it.

Azagoth · 06-16-2020, 11:53 PM

I love the "crack of the bat" sounds. Unfortunately, they don't match the flight of the baseball as they usually end up as lazy flyballs or routine grounders.

risp2out · 06-17-2020, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Harry Hibbs

The home fan reactions to plays (both good and bad) are there in 21 and they're actually improved and happen more consistently than in 20. I did find that I needed to turn them up to hear them properly though. You can do that in the pregame options menu here by adjusting the Ambient Volume.

Thanks for this, but I've tried all of those tweaks, fixes, adjustments, etc. Those sounds do not appear for me. I'd love to hear them, but for now, it's just back to OOTP 20 for me.

Matt Arnold · 06-17-2020, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by risp2out

Thanks for this, but I've tried all of those tweaks, fixes, adjustments, etc. Those sounds do not appear for me. I'd love to hear them, but for now, it's just back to OOTP 20 for me.

Can you enable the trace mode, play through a game, and send me the trace file? In there, we detail all the sound loading and playing, so that may hint at what is happening.

risp2out · 06-19-2020, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Can you enable the trace mode, play through a game, and send me the trace file? In there, we detail all the sound loading and playing, so that may hint at what is happening.

I don't know what trace mode is but I'll try to figure it out this weekend. Thanks!

Lukas Berger · 06-19-2020, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by risp2out

I don't know what trace mode is but I'll try to figure it out this weekend. Thanks!

https://support.ootpdevelopments.com...debug-log-file

DonCallis · 03-19-2021, 07:42 AM

It's a typical situation for most games about big sports. Fortunately, many good people make mods, including those with sound improvements. I honestly tried to make something like that and even managed to make cool crowd sounds during hits and goals. I wanted to make even more, but my enthusiasm went down after discovering the big pack of sounds on one of the forums. However, the passion for making background sounds for other games is still with me, so I frequently use https://depositphotos.com/music.html services for such purposes. I've found there many practical sound effects, which helped me improve the general quality of sounds.

ForeverRoyalKC · 03-19-2021, 10:52 AM

I have noticed the lack of crowd too. I will get very few outright cheers. And when something big happens, like a double is hit with a run scoring, the crowd will swell and get fairly loud and then just die down.

twins_34 · 03-19-2021, 01:13 PM

Mine has worked fine. Sometimes the crowd gets way too loud that I have to turn the sound down. It might be that he had NOT created a home stadium folder.

To do this, click on team settings box and edit ballpark

Once in ballpark settings open sounds

Under sounds if your home ballpark folder is not setup click on box to set it up. THEN under that you can do a lot of fun things.

I have created things for the Twins like Wally the Beer man yelling in the back ground, did different homerun sounds. If your home team pitcher gets out of a jam the crowd will cheer but you NEED your home stadium to have sounds.

This is probably the issue because sounds are, I dunno? More stadium specific?

Now I dont make sound folders for all stadiums and if I am NOT at my home stadium the sounds are pretty basic.

ForeverRoyalKC · 03-19-2021, 04:26 PM

I am in spring training with the Royals and have pretty basic sounds. Is the "Spring Ballpark" basic sounds? Or should I be hearing the same amount of sounds that would be at Kauffman Stadium?

I went into my sounds folder and found that I am not hearing about three quarters of my sounds file.

Is this because spring training is basic? Should I be hearing rallies and more things at "home" in spring training?

twins_34 · 03-19-2021, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoyalKC

I am in spring training with the Royals and have pretty basic sounds. Is the "Spring Ballpark" basic sounds? Or should I be hearing the same amount of sounds that would be at Kauffman Stadium?

I went into my sounds folder and found that I am not hearing about three quarters of my sounds file.

Is this because spring training is basic? Should I be hearing rallies and more things at "home" in spring training?

Spring Park is basic. Unless you make an actual folder for it, which I don't know why you would. Spring Park is neither a home or away park because its just generic. That's why I was hoping that in 2021 they would allow you to pick the home spring training parks of your teams and then set them up and then we could actually play in some of these amazing parks that have been created by the users.

ForeverRoyalKC · 03-19-2021, 07:02 PM

Thanks, twins_34.

I had a feeling that was it. I went thru a bunch of my sound files and was like "Wow! There's a bunch of these I am not hearing."

Thanks for clarifying!

Ormondbeachdan · 03-24-2021, 04:39 AM

I wasn't hearing some of the sounds very well in the beginning, especially vendors etc.. I tinkered with the IN GAME controls raising ambient sound level etc.. experimented and now it sounds great!.. I had some too low, some too high.. might want to give that a try... Now if I can only get crowd animation to work.. that is bugging me.. updated drivers still no go.. any thoughts?

06-16-2020, 11:53 PM	#25
Azagoth Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Port Townsend, WA Posts: 38	I love the "crack of the bat" sounds. Unfortunately, they don't match the flight of the baseball as they usually end up as lazy flyballs or routine grounders. __________________

03-19-2021, 07:42 AM	#30
DonCallis Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 1	It's a typical situation for most games about big sports. Fortunately, many good people make mods, including those with sound improvements. I honestly tried to make something like that and even managed to make cool crowd sounds during hits and goals. I wanted to make even more, but my enthusiasm went down after discovering the big pack of sounds on one of the forums. However, the passion for making background sounds for other games is still with me, so I frequently use https://depositphotos.com/music.html services for such purposes. I've found there many practical sound effects, which helped me improve the general quality of sounds. Last edited by DonCallis; 03-23-2021 at 08:52 AM.

03-19-2021, 01:13 PM	#32
twins_34 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Is this Heaven? No, it's Iowa Posts: 2,075	Mine has worked fine. Sometimes the crowd gets way too loud that I have to turn the sound down. It might be that he had NOT created a home stadium folder. To do this, click on team settings box and edit ballpark Once in ballpark settings open sounds Under sounds if your home ballpark folder is not setup click on box to set it up. THEN under that you can do a lot of fun things. I have created things for the Twins like Wally the Beer man yelling in the back ground, did different homerun sounds. If your home team pitcher gets out of a jam the crowd will cheer but you NEED your home stadium to have sounds. This is probably the issue because sounds are, I dunno? More stadium specific? Now I dont make sound folders for all stadiums and if I am NOT at my home stadium the sounds are pretty basic. Attached Images Last edited by twins_34; 03-19-2021 at 01:15 PM.

03-24-2021, 04:39 AM	#36
Ormondbeachdan Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ormond Beach Fl Posts: 300	I wasn't hearing some of the sounds very well in the beginning, especially vendors etc.. I tinkered with the IN GAME controls raising ambient sound level etc.. experimented and now it sounds great!.. I had some too low, some too high.. might want to give that a try... Now if I can only get crowd animation to work.. that is bugging me.. updated drivers still no go.. any thoughts? __________________ https://challenge.ootpdevelopments.c...s/MrDanboy.jpg

06-16-2020, 05:27 AM	#21
risp2out All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 648	Oh, see. I've never heard any of these announcements you guys are talking about home or away. Sound simply isn't working properly for me.

06-16-2020, 01:24 PM	#23
seven All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Victoria, Canada Posts: 610	The odd thing I have noticed about sound in the current and previous years' versions of OOTP is that after playing out a game, with the sound working just fine, when I go to a game the next day, the sound is not working properly. There might be, for example, some general ambient crowd noise, but no action-specific crowd reaction and no big noise with a home team home run. Then the next day, the sound might be gone completely. So I quit the game and restart, then the sound returns. I haven't tried checking the sound settings in the pre-game screen, so I'll check those next time this happens.

03-19-2021, 10:52 AM	#31
ForeverRoyalKC All Star Starter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Hop, skip and a jump from Pomme De Terre Lake, MO. Posts: 1,194	I have noticed the lack of crowd too. I will get very few outright cheers. And when something big happens, like a double is hit with a run scoring, the crowd will swell and get fairly loud and then just die down.

03-19-2021, 04:26 PM	#33
ForeverRoyalKC All Star Starter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Hop, skip and a jump from Pomme De Terre Lake, MO. Posts: 1,194	I am in spring training with the Royals and have pretty basic sounds. Is the "Spring Ballpark" basic sounds? Or should I be hearing the same amount of sounds that would be at Kauffman Stadium? I went into my sounds folder and found that I am not hearing about three quarters of my sounds file. Is this because spring training is basic? Should I be hearing rallies and more things at "home" in spring training?

03-19-2021, 07:02 PM	#35
ForeverRoyalKC All Star Starter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Hop, skip and a jump from Pomme De Terre Lake, MO. Posts: 1,194	Thanks, twins_34. I had a feeling that was it. I went thru a bunch of my sound files and was like "Wow! There's a bunch of these I am not hearing." Thanks for clarifying!