Perfect Game is Very Far from Perfect

[JudP]

I think thats another issue. I assume from what Ive learned and from looking at the defensive ratings on some of the gold and diamond cards that these players are poor defensive players. Their defensive numbers and strikeout numbers are bad. Is that wahts happening in some games? I have only 1 diamond pitcher I got in a card pack and most of my players ratings are in the 80's. But it gets frustrating when my team faces a team with lower valued players and a pitcher with a horrible ERA and losing record and they get beat by a huge score.

[HRBaker]

All humor and irony aside, I still think the Promotion/Relegation model is the root of the problem. Teams should be assigned based on their actual strength - not whether they win or lose the previous season - and then include the next 3-4 teams that didn't even get in the playoffs.


OVR is close enough to use as our measurement. Total the top 26 players (from the "entire" roster) and sort them. Assign teams to the level they fit into, and everyone plays teams that are closer to their abilities.

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by JudP

Why dont we just give everybody a team of 100 point players and forget any strategy.

Their strategy is "pay $1,000 to go shopping on the auction house".

[KikiVincent]

Originally Posted by Westheim

Make standard packs free and everybody gets a selection of five historical perfects per month. Whenever a whale plays against a FTP player, the whale automatically loses, 10-0. All problems solved.

This post contains irony.

Epic!

[Cowboys3356]

Originally Posted by ROY_Angel_Berroa

I'd propose a way for teams to "buy" their way straight to a higher league. So they can immediately move to a Silver League by paying PP and have more equal competition.

The teams you are seeing in your leagues would never do that, they intentionally tank the Entry Pool so they can be placed in the lowest league possible to then dominate and be Big Dogs. It is very pathetic but its the reality of the game. Just know that the people who own those teams probably have very low self esteem and you are helping them feel a little better about themselves by letting them beat you!

[JudP]

Originally Posted by bjsforever

I started Perfect Team in Rookie League last week as a F2P beginner and I guess I became "that guy". I spent about $30 on PP and lucked into a perfect Barry Bonds peak card, a perfect Mike Trout card, and a diamond Will Smith, along with a handful of golds. Having a couple of those cards will rake in PP from achievements at that level. It's nice to know I'll be climbing the ladder. I am also impatient and hate losing... which is why PT is probably such a cash cow for OOTP.

I was lucky to get a Gerrit Cole card in a pack I bought through points I earned for achievments, and that is my only really hight card. I think trying a pack is fine but I don't want to buy them... Id rather build my team and earn my way. Look.... the main issue for me is that I can't earn points playing teams that have a lineup of 9 guys rated 97 to 100, How do you get lineups like that at Rookie level??? Maybe you are right that people are inpatient. Thats why I'd rather see a league broken out for people that want to play to build their teams.

[JudP]

Originally Posted by HRBaker

All humor and irony aside, I still think the Promotion/Relegation model is the root of the problem. Teams should be assigned based on their actual strength - not whether they win or lose the previous season - and then include the next 3-4 teams that didn't even get in the playoffs.


OVR is close enough to use as our measurement. Total the top 26 players (from the "entire" roster) and sort them. Assign teams to the level they fit into, and everyone plays teams that are closer to their abilities.

Very good suggestions. Otherwise the other teams cant even earn enough points to improve. I assumed (which is always dangerous) that you wuld meet better players the higher you moved up... not that Rookie teams would have all super stars.

[JudP]

Lots of interesting comments.... thank you all. I do have one other thing I wanted to ask. Do you find some of the predictability of the game to be just so predictable its ridiculous? For example... every time it says one of my better pitchers is "on fire" and in the next game we go up against a team with a terrible record and a bad pitcher my team loses. Its gotten so funny that I can almost predict when my team will win or lose. I cant believe the computer algorithim is that predictable, The other day my team was playing poorly and I didnt have a good pitcher going when we faced a team that was hot and should have destroyed my team. Par for the course, we WON!!!! LOL... I cant make this up.

[RobWarwick]

I currently love PT and am having a blast as i begin my iron league. But, yea, the thought has crossed my mind, why not have some kind of "salary cap" or a point cap so everyone is playing on a level playing field. I bought some big players early, and actually was feeling a little guilty early on facing teams with most of their players in the 70s

Just got a platinum card and you want to slip him into your lineup......you are going to have to work your point cap to get him into your starting roster and stay under the cap.

[ignats75]

I get the odd bad day but to have Craig Kimbrel go 2-9 with a 7.65 era as a closer not one year but two years in a row

I have Craig Kimbrel. I decided after about 1 1/2 seasons with him that I would rather use a 68 Ryan Brazier in my pen and have never used him again.

[DonMattingly]

Originally Posted by JeffersonJim

Put another way, what incentive(s) would a whale, smaller whale, manatee, dolphin or higher food-chain animal have to NOT leave their team in a lower less competitive small fry leagues, assuming it was within the Terms of Service.

tldr: Sorry

Has the team OP is talking about been in Rookie for more than one season?

It's possible someone signed up for PT, spent a ton of $$ on PP and went to town with packs and/or the AH.

There's no rule that says you can't buy a Perfect level team from day one if you open up your wallet, and that team will start in Rookie and only be able to go up one level at a time.

Not sure how you'd manage to keep a team full of 100 cards in Rookie for more than a year though.

[macacks]

I will say it again. If you want a league that is ideal to how you want to play then use the main game. There is almost no scenario(league setup) you can't produce to make you happy. You can control absolutely everything.

[ignats75]

It happens some weeks. This week, still in Iron my Buckeyes are playing .615 ball at 32-20 and I'm 12 games out of first! The team I'm chasing (keep in mind, this is IRON ball) is 44-8 and his lineup includes a 100 Ricky Henderson, a 100 Babe Ruth, a 100 Jackie Robinson, a 100 Cal Ripken Jr., and 4 other Diamonds. He has 1 gold in his lineup. His rotation is 4 high diamonds and a 100 Nolan Ryan. In IRON. Its laughable. but it happens. I lost in the Iron WS 4 games to 2 or I'd be in Bronze this week. So, I just figure it my punishment for choking away the championship.

[JudP]

Originally Posted by bailey

If you are building your team slowly over time, why do you care if there just happens to be a multi-perfect team in your league this week?

Edit: I missed the part about not real baseball. You should know there are no injuries and a player can play for 100 seasons.

Why should I care? Because there isnt 1 monster team in the league.. there are enough to fill most of the moving up positions. They dont just win games... they get all the point rewards. So then where do you get enough points to improve your team? Sorry but Im not buyinhg points and contributing to the madness. It's sad to see the posts about teams having to dwell in the rookie legue nd not play their best players to rack up points.

[DonMattingly]

Originally Posted by JudP

Why should I care? Because there isnt 1 monster team in the league.. there are enough to fill most of the moving up positions. They dont just win games... they get all the point rewards. So then where do you get enough points to improve your team? Sorry but Im not buyinhg points and contributing to the madness. It's sad to see the posts about teams having to dwell in the rookie legue nd not play their best players to rack up points.

Yeah the closest thing to solving that I guess is to join a F2P league, but there really aren't that many now.

I would say after my experiences with 19 and 20 with all F2P teams that this time around, I'm not going to look to jump levels too quickly. I am going to slowly try to add great cards when I can get them at the right price. A few great cards on a lower level team can earn a lot of points even if your team isn't good enough yet as a whole to advance. Eventually it will but IMO there is no rush if you're going F2P.

So basically don't spend the PP you do get on lots of small upgrades, save the PP and go for great cards when you can afford them.

[bailey]

Originally Posted by JudP

Why should I care? Because there isnt 1 monster team in the league.. there are enough to fill most of the moving up positions. They dont just win games... they get all the point rewards. So then where do you get enough points to improve your team? Sorry but Im not buyinhg points and contributing to the madness. It's sad to see the posts about teams having to dwell in the rookie legue nd not play their best players to rack up points.

Do you really want to know the answer to the question "where do I get my points" or do you just want to blame other people for the fact that you are not skillful at the game? (Note: one answer is "flip cards in the AH", but there is another way and not buying points, either.)

[Bunktown Ballers]

Originally Posted by bailey

If you are building your team slowly over time, why do you care if there just happens to be a multi-perfect team in your league this week?

Edit: I missed the part about not real baseball. You should know there are no injuries and a player can play for 100 seasons.

Fresh whales at every level every week...While 1 might move along 1 more player joins & buys a immediate whale team stating in lowest league.
So many leagues could be created for only certain type of teams but I imagine that would be next to impossible. But I do find building a immediate whale team is equal to a team tanking to get away from them....It's fun but frustraing anf after 3 PT versions so many have yet to find that niche bc to some immediate success is a must instead of building towards the perfect team

[Bunktown Ballers]

Originally Posted by RobWarwick

I currently love PT and am having a blast as i begin my iron league. But, yea, the thought has crossed my mind, why not have some kind of "salary cap" or a point cap so everyone is playing on a level playing field. I bought some big players early, and actually was feeling a little guilty early on facing teams with most of their players in the 70s

Just got a platinum card and you want to slip him into your lineup......you are going to have to work your point cap to get him into your starting roster and stay under the cap.

No way you can salary cap a league but you can in tournaments

[QuantaCondor]

Originally Posted by DonMattingly

Yeah the closest thing to solving that I guess is to join a F2P league, but there really aren't that many now.

I think this is probably the worst thing a casual player could do if they want equal competition. Any amount of time spent in a F2P league makes it immediately clear how much better other people are at teambuilding, generating PP, and overall execution of PT strategies than you are. And for context, the topmost talented and engaged F2P players are probably at Diamond right now thinking about a WC spot. The next tier down, containing most of the active and engaged F2P teams who interact with the community and take its advice, is probably either in gold or with a slightly worse record in diamond. If you're complaining about stagnation at that stage-- it's hard to beat the best whales in the game at the highest levels-- then I understand that. Anything lesser than that become excuses. After all, none of the good F2P techniques are a mystery. Look at any number of beginner threads on here and you can figure out what to do. Just gotta put in the time.

[Marleigh]

Originally Posted by RobWarwick

I currently love PT and am having a blast as i begin my iron league. But, yea, the thought has crossed my mind, why not have some kind of "salary cap" or a point cap so everyone is playing on a level playing field. I bought some big players early, and actually was feeling a little guilty early on facing teams with most of their players in the 70s

Just got a platinum card and you want to slip him into your lineup......you are going to have to work your point cap to get him into your starting roster and stay under the cap.

Sounds horrible. Caps are for tournaments. PT is to build the best team you can regardless of level. If you can't compete at your current level then you won't be able to compete at the next level up.