This Week in Perfect Team #11 - Feb 11th, 2019

[Fenixdown]

Historical Legend Ivan Rodriguez, as a die hard Rangers fan, is honestly an insult. You could have made a card with a Marlins logo that played catcher, had a 97 rating, and was named "Spit in Rangers fan's faces"...and it would have been less insulting.

Which reminds me to put in a suggestion that all Historical Legend cards should be placed on the teams that they are in the Hall of Fame with, regardless of whether or not that was their "peak". And yes,l that also means Nolan Ryan.

Furthermore, you missed Nolan Ryan's best season by one year, and how that's still not a card is beyond me.

And Historical Legend Kirk Gibson? He's literally a "historical legend" for one swing against Dennis Eckersley. And somehow his career rates him a higher overall rating than Ken Griffey, Jr., who's easily one of the ten best outfielders in history. I don't even know if I'd be able to argue putting Gibby in a top 50 list for the outfield. What's next, Historical Legend Bill Buckner? I mean, hey, if we're gonna go legendary in the postseason, we may as well go all-out.

This showing made my brain explode. I'm making sure in my will it leaves specific instructions that you guys have to clean that up. =P

[Dogberry99]

Originally Posted by Fenixdown

Furthermore, you missed Nolan Ryan's best season by one year, and how that's still not a card is beyond me.

I would argue that many cards, especially historic golds and below, miss the best year(s) for most players.

Part of this could be on account of needing to balance the game. Having the best version of every player could skew overall ratings much higher than the devs are comfortable with.

That being said, I would argue that there are more than enough players not yet represented in this game whose best years could easily fill in those gaps as well.

So what it comes down to is a question of which you prefer: every player be the best version(s) of that player? or inferior (sometimes significantly so) versions of legendary players that help balance the game?

[webdox]

Originally Posted by Fenixdown

Historical Legend Ivan Rodriguez, as a die hard Rangers fan, is honestly an insult. You could have made a card with a Marlins logo that played catcher, had a 97 rating, and was named "Spit in Rangers fan's faces"...and it would have been less insulting.

Which reminds me to put in a suggestion that all Historical Legend cards should be placed on the teams that they are in the Hall of Fame with, regardless of whether or not that was their "peak". And yes,l that also means Nolan Ryan.

Furthermore, you missed Nolan Ryan's best season by one year, and how that's still not a card is beyond me.

And Historical Legend Kirk Gibson? He's literally a "historical legend" for one swing against Dennis Eckersley. And somehow his career rates him a higher overall rating than Ken Griffey, Jr., who's easily one of the ten best outfielders in history. I don't even know if I'd be able to argue putting Gibby in a top 50 list for the outfield. What's next, Historical Legend Bill Buckner? I mean, hey, if we're gonna go legendary in the postseason, we may as well go all-out.

This showing made my brain explode. I'm making sure in my will it leaves specific instructions that you guys have to clean that up. =P

I wholeheartedly disagree with your Gibson assessment. The only thing I have issue with on this card is that he wasn't released as a Detroit Tiger which was truly his career peak.

He was a beast for the Tigers for many years and hit another legendary home run in Game 5 of the 1984 WS against Goose Gossage who should have come out of the game or pitched around Gibby. He hit 2 famous HR's in 2 separate WS for 2 different teams in 2 different leagues...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmukTdo-WuY

Sorry, dude was and still is a Legend...

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by Fenixdown

Historical Legend Ivan Rodriguez, as a die hard Rangers fan, is honestly an insult. You could have made a card with a Marlins logo that played catcher, had a 97 rating, and was named "Spit in Rangers fan's faces"...and it would have been less insulting.

Which reminds me to put in a suggestion that all Historical Legend cards should be placed on the teams that they are in the Hall of Fame with, regardless of whether or not that was their "peak". And yes,l that also means Nolan Ryan.

Furthermore, you missed Nolan Ryan's best season by one year, and how that's still not a card is beyond me.

And Historical Legend Kirk Gibson? He's literally a "historical legend" for one swing against Dennis Eckersley. And somehow his career rates him a higher overall rating than Ken Griffey, Jr., who's easily one of the ten best outfielders in history. I don't even know if I'd be able to argue putting Gibby in a top 50 list for the outfield. What's next, Historical Legend Bill Buckner? I mean, hey, if we're gonna go legendary in the postseason, we may as well go all-out.

This showing made my brain explode. I'm making sure in my will it leaves specific instructions that you guys have to clean that up. =P

It must kill you that Bill Mazeroski is in the Hall of Fame for one swing against Ralph Terry.

You don't have to do 100 historical things to be a historical legend. Sometimes one is enough. 30 years later, and "Behind the bag! It gets through Buckner!" and "In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened!" are still household items for any somewhat invested baseball fan, even chumps like me who didn't come along until much, much later. Are we now holding players' crowning achievements against them? Never mind that Gibson was an MVP (that year), Buckner at one point won a batting title. Yeah, clearly they never did anything worthy of a card in PT...

I will go out on a limb and say that there should be a card for every player that ever ended a World Series with a walkoff hit. Joe Carter. Luis Gonzalez. Bill Mazeroski. Goose Goslin. They're all legends.

[atabakin]

Originally Posted by Westheim

You don't have to do 100 historical things to be a historical legend. Sometimes one is enough. 30 years later, and "Behind the bag! It gets through Buckner!" and "In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened!" are still household items for any somewhat invested baseball fan

I grew up with the later years of Jack Buck, so I'm more partial to "I don't believe what I just saw" myself.

[zrog2000]

Originally Posted by Fenixdown

Historical Legend Ivan Rodriguez, as a die hard Rangers fan, is honestly an insult. You could have made a card with a Marlins logo that played catcher, had a 97 rating, and was named "Spit in Rangers fan's faces"...and it would have been less insulting.

Which reminds me to put in a suggestion that all Historical Legend cards should be placed on the teams that they are in the Hall of Fame with, regardless of whether or not that was their "peak". And yes,l that also means Nolan Ryan.

Furthermore, you missed Nolan Ryan's best season by one year, and how that's still not a card is beyond me.

And Historical Legend Kirk Gibson? He's literally a "historical legend" for one swing against Dennis Eckersley. And somehow his career rates him a higher overall rating than Ken Griffey, Jr., who's easily one of the ten best outfielders in history. I don't even know if I'd be able to argue putting Gibby in a top 50 list for the outfield. What's next, Historical Legend Bill Buckner? I mean, hey, if we're gonna go legendary in the postseason, we may as well go all-out.

This showing made my brain explode. I'm making sure in my will it leaves specific instructions that you guys have to clean that up. =P

And then there is Alex Rodriguez, with 113.5 fWAR in his career (13th in MLB history) and his best card is a really crappy 95. His only other card is an 88. And I hate him, but that is just ridiculous.

[|ChelseaNS]

Originally Posted by zrog2000

And then there is Alex Rodriguez, with 113.5 fWAR in his career (13th in MLB history) and his best card is a really crappy 95. His only other card is an 88. And I hate him, but that is just ridiculous.

96,01,02,03,05 - Any of those years are just amazing. How he only has that one 95 is ridiculous

[Splitter24]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that they're probably saving some of their card release "ammo" for PT20.

[webdox]

Originally Posted by Splitter24

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that they're probably saving some of their card release "ammo" for PT20.

I hope they are. I dropped a few beans in the PayPal counter to round up a Theme team I had been working on that I will probably abandon and never see again in a months time... Must resist temptation and save up for the next iteration.

[Dogberry99]

Originally Posted by |ChelseaNS

96,01,02,03,05 - Any of those years are just amazing. How he only has that one 95 is ridiculous

2005 is the 88 OVR. 2002 is the 95 OVR. 1996 is a rarely pulled Top War that is 97 OVR. There is also a Peak A-Rod that is 93 OVR, but I have no information on what years the Peak represents, other than that he is listed as a SS on it. And A-Rod has a 2nd 93 OVR card, a 2007 Historic All-Star.

Because we all desperately needed 5 crappy cards with very subtle differences of the same "enhanced" player...

[zrog2000]

Originally Posted by Dogberry99

2005 is the 88 OVR. 2002 is the 95 OVR. 1996 is a rarely pulled Top War that is 97 OVR. There is also a Peak A-Rod that is 93 OVR, but I have no information on what years the Peak represents, other than that he is listed as a SS on it. And A-Rod has a 2nd 93 OVR card, a 2007 Historic All-Star.

Because we all desperately needed 5 crappy cards with very subtle differences of the same "enhanced" player...

We need one of the top 15 cards in the game for one of the top 15 players in MLB history. And if the "enhanced" comment was for steroids, every freaking Bonds card is 10 times better than ARod's.

How does a 10 WAR season only deserve a really crappy 95 OVR card? It's kind of ridiculous that no one in perfect leagues even thinks about using any ARod card.