Is this for real? - Page 2

Tyke · 05-05-2018, 09:44 AM

Let's hope it stays there!

Déjà Bru · 05-05-2018, 10:11 AM

It would seem that OOTPD is spreading its advertising wings a bit. We had better hope they don't spread them inside the game itself. We talked a bit about that possibility in this thread, page 2.

It's coming. Just please have it err on the side of understatement. Tasteful. Discreet.

A huge rotating ad billboard above centerfield walls or, even worse, a popup the size of the one in OP during gameplay . . . it could be all over at that point. Heh, I keep harping on this: Always save the last version of OOTPB!

Qeltar · 05-05-2018, 10:47 AM

Actually, I think this is probably more about Draft Kings than OOTP. I just saw a similar ad (though much more tasteful) reading MLBTR. My guess is they are approaching baseball-related sites and products as part of a marketing campaign.

Reed · 05-05-2018, 10:50 AM

Gee, for a minute I thought we might be betting on OOTP games. Start in 1901, let the AI do an inaugural draft of historical players, set up odds who would win the pennant/World Series, let the betting commence and after the season do a rookie draft and do it all over again for 1902, etc..
I guess I better not give Markus any ideas.

Orcin · 05-05-2018, 10:55 AM

We don’t know what Perfect Team is yet.

Qeltar · 05-05-2018, 10:59 AM

Even before this, Perfect Team has had me suspicious. The name makes it sound like one of those insidious P2W collectible modes that have infested (and largely destroyed) many previous sports titles. Like Madden's much-reviled (yet hugely profitable) "Ultimate Team."

Hopefully that's just a mistaken impression.

Déjà Bru · 05-05-2018, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

We don’t know what Perfect Team is yet.

Wow. You're right and it led me to think: We are not done with 19 yet. Could it yet take a disgusting turn when a patch, or something embedded in our existing version, activates a certain module?

I rushed to check. When I said above that "I keep harping on this: Always save the last version of OOTPB!" I was thinking of 19. But wait, did I save 18, just in case?

Whew. Yes, I still have 18. Just in case.

Westheim · 05-05-2018, 12:22 PM

Guys, stop scaring me. Thx.

Déjà Bru · 05-05-2018, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

Guys, stop scaring me. Thx.

Heh, I've got the same feeling, like a bunch of young boys telling each other ghost stories around the campfire!

Qeltar · 05-05-2018, 08:03 PM

Yeah, this is definitely one of those "cross that bridge when we come to it" sort of deals. Vigilance is wise, but there's no need to get worked up over nothing, especially with a company that has a pretty good track record.

Le Grande Orange · 05-05-2018, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Reed

Gee, for a minute I thought we might be betting on OOTP games. Start in 1901, let the AI do an inaugural draft of historical players, set up odds who would win the pennant/World Series, let the betting commence and after the season do a rookie draft and do it all over again for 1902, etc.

That might actually be fun!

Orcin · 05-06-2018, 10:52 AM

It's baaaaaack! (But it is smaller.)

Airdrop01 · 05-06-2018, 11:54 AM

What’s next? Payday loan outfits as the next “sponsors.”

Barf.

rudel.dietrich · 05-06-2018, 12:31 PM

It is indeed back
And with it my support for future OOTPD products

Déjà Bru · 05-06-2018, 12:55 PM

Finally, I see this! I was wondering whether I was being left out for a reason . . .

Actually, I have Adblock Plus and I thought that might be blocking it, but no.

Well, look. OOTPD has greatly expanded, as we have seen. The results have been a bigger and better game, which we appreciate. They have to pay for this and game sales are not going to be enough over time.

Hence ads on forums. Not huge popups, though; that may have been a momentary mistake. This is fine.

Not in the game itself, though. That might be a bit problematic to say the least. Even there, I imagine I could compromise if it were tasteful and discreet, as I said above. It's just that I don't want to have to rely on what Qeltar rightly calls "a pretty good track record."

Track records are no guarantees of future decisions and I don't want the game to change in that regard. So, more of this here please, if it pays the bills, but only here:

wallewalls · 05-06-2018, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

It is indeed back
And with it my support for future OOTPD products

you're not serious are you?

Airdrop01 · 05-06-2018, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wallewalls

you're not serious are you?

I hope he is...

And I agree. DraftKings is scum. They make SpeedyCash look like Mother Teresa. Read this article. I should get a thanks from every user on this board for linking it. And a personal thank you letter from Markus for it assuming he didn’t realize what evil bastards with which he is dealing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/m...o-suckers.html

wallewalls · 05-06-2018, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airdrop01

I hope he is...

And I agree. DraftKings is scum. They make SpeedyCash look like Mother Teresa. Read this article. I should get a thanks from every user on this board for linking it. And a personal thank you letter from Markus for it assuming he didn’t realize what evil bastards with which he is dealing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/m...o-suckers.html

stop. i know that not everyone likes draftkings and those sites, but to stop supporting a company because of an ad on their website? that sounds like an overreaction.

Qeltar · 05-06-2018, 01:52 PM

For those who aren't going to read the article (I read the first part and skimmed the rest) the most salient part IMO is about how the sites are designed so that long-time veterans running scripts and using other exploits can fleece new players.

New players who are usually brought into the game through.. massive advertising campaigns.

I'm not going to stop supporting OOTP over this, but I think it's entirely valid for paying customers to express their views on matters such as this. How else can the company's direction be influenced?

RchW · 05-06-2018, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallewalls

stop. i know that not everyone likes draftkings and those sites, but to stop supporting a company because of an ad on their website? that sounds like an overreaction.

Watching EPL games with the incessant flashing billboards; now that is annoying.

05-05-2018, 10:11 AM	#22
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,742	It would seem that OOTPD is spreading its advertising wings a bit. We had better hope they don't spread them inside the game itself. We talked a bit about that possibility in this thread, page 2. It's coming. Just please have it err on the side of understatement. Tasteful. Discreet. A huge rotating ad billboard above centerfield walls or, even worse, a popup the size of the one in OP during gameplay . . . it could be all over at that point. Heh, I keep harping on this: Always save the last version of OOTPB! __________________ - Bru

05-05-2018, 12:22 PM	#28
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05-06-2018, 11:54 AM	#33
Airdrop01 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lenexa, KS / Wilson, WY Posts: 1,354	What’s next? Payday loan outfits as the next “sponsors.” Barf. __________________

05-06-2018, 12:55 PM	#35
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,742	Finally, I see this! I was wondering whether I was being left out for a reason . . . Actually, I have Adblock Plus and I thought that might be blocking it, but no. Well, look. OOTPD has greatly expanded, as we have seen. The results have been a bigger and better game, which we appreciate. They have to pay for this and game sales are not going to be enough over time. Hence ads on forums. Not huge popups, though; that may have been a momentary mistake. This is fine. Not in the game itself, though. That might be a bit problematic to say the least. Even there, I imagine I could compromise if it were tasteful and discreet, as I said above. It's just that I don't want to have to rely on what Qeltar rightly calls "a pretty good track record." Track records are no guarantees of future decisions and I don't want the game to change in that regard. So, more of this here please, if it pays the bills, but only here: Attached Images __________________ - Bru

05-06-2018, 01:52 PM	#39
Qeltar Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 382	For those who aren't going to read the article (I read the first part and skimmed the rest) the most salient part IMO is about how the sites are designed so that long-time veterans running scripts and using other exploits can fleece new players. New players who are usually brought into the game through.. massive advertising campaigns. I'm not going to stop supporting OOTP over this, but I think it's entirely valid for paying customers to express their views on matters such as this. How else can the company's direction be influenced? Last edited by Qeltar; 05-06-2018 at 01:53 PM.

05-05-2018, 09:44 AM	#21
Tyke All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Cleckheaton, West Yorkshire, U.K. Posts: 1,138	Let's hope it stays there!

05-05-2018, 10:47 AM	#23
Qeltar Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 382	Actually, I think this is probably more about Draft Kings than OOTP. I just saw a similar ad (though much more tasteful) reading MLBTR. My guess is they are approaching baseball-related sites and products as part of a marketing campaign.

05-05-2018, 10:50 AM	#24
Reed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,481	Gee, for a minute I thought we might be betting on OOTP games. Start in 1901, let the AI do an inaugural draft of historical players, set up odds who would win the pennant/World Series, let the betting commence and after the season do a rookie draft and do it all over again for 1902, etc.. I guess I better not give Markus any ideas.

05-05-2018, 10:55 AM	#25
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,870	We don’t know what Perfect Team is yet.

05-05-2018, 10:59 AM	#26
Qeltar Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 382	Even before this, Perfect Team has had me suspicious. The name makes it sound like one of those insidious P2W collectible modes that have infested (and largely destroyed) many previous sports titles. Like Madden's much-reviled (yet hugely profitable) "Ultimate Team." Hopefully that's just a mistaken impression.

05-05-2018, 08:03 PM	#30
Qeltar Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 382	Yeah, this is definitely one of those "cross that bridge when we come to it" sort of deals. Vigilance is wise, but there's no need to get worked up over nothing, especially with a company that has a pretty good track record.

05-06-2018, 10:52 AM	#32
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,870	It's baaaaaack! (But it is smaller.)

05-06-2018, 12:31 PM	#34
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	It is indeed back And with it my support for future OOTPD products