Can "Rainouts" Be Disabled?

[Bluenoser]

Domes and Retractable roofs are another method for not having to deal with rainouts/delays.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by cheo25

I play historical so when there is a rainout, I go in manually and change the game times to make it a traditional doubleheader instead of a day-night DH.

It's still not really a 'traditional' doubleheader though, as OOTP will treat that as two separate games and will report separate ticket sales and attendance for both games. In real life, of course, a traditional doubleheader is two games for the price of one, so there is only one ticket sale and attendance figure for both games, usually attributed to the second game only (in order to keep the per game figures correct).

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

Domes and Retractable roofs are another method for not having to deal with rainouts/delays.

That's technically not realistic either. There have been games postponed even in domed or retractable roof parks (admittedly a rare event).

[BBGiovanni]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

Domes and Retractable roofs are another method for not having to deal with rainouts/delays.

Right, if you use an outdoor stadium pic/graphic you would probably not notice that they are all set as domed stadiums behind the scenes.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

It's still not really a 'traditional' doubleheader though, as OOTP will treat that as two separate games and will report separate ticket sales and attendance for both games. In real life, of course, a traditional doubleheader is two games for the price of one, so there is only one ticket sale and attendance figure for both games, usually attributed to the second game only (in order to keep the per game figures correct).


That's technically not realistic either. There have been games postponed even in domed or retractable roof parks (admittedly a rare event).

I didn't say it was realistic, I said it was an option in OOTP to not have to deal with rainouts/delays.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

I didn't say it was realistic...

I didn't say you did.

[DreamTeams]

Originally Posted by Eugene Church

Can I use the schedule editor to reschedule games myself, if the AI doesn't do it quite right?

Yes. Should pose no problem.

[HerbD]

+1

My thoughts were already posted by another person...next time I should read the rest of the thread before posting

[cheo25]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

It's still not really a 'traditional' doubleheader though, as OOTP will treat that as two separate games and will report separate ticket sales and attendance for both games. In real life, of course, a traditional doubleheader is two games for the price of one, so there is only one ticket sale and attendance figure for both games, usually attributed to the second game only (in order to keep the per game figures correct).

I meant from the standpoint of two games being played on the same day with no more than a 30- or 45-minute break in between. From a pure scheduling standpoint, that is a traditional doubleheader.

I choose to look at it as the AI empties the stadium between games and lets people back into the park with separate tickets for financial purposes.

[Le Grande Orange]

One other thing to note about OOTP's postponement feature is that clubs will still nevertheless play out their full slate of scheduled games, regardless of how many postponements there are. That is, all postponed games are made up.

While that is nearly always the case currently at the major league level, it certainly isn't the case at the minor league level, nor was it the case at the major league level in the past. Teams sometimes finish the season with differing numbers of games played due to some games not being made up.

Originally Posted by cheo25

I meant from the standpoint of two games being played on the same day with no more than a 30- or 45-minute break in between. From a pure scheduling standpoint, that is a traditional doubleheader.

Yes, I understood that.

Originally Posted by cheo25

I choose to look at it as the AI empties the stadium between games and lets people back into the park with separate tickets for financial purposes.

Yes, I figured that. I was just pointing out that, technically, a traditional doubleheader is a two-for-one affair. (Something OOTP is not able to recreate at present, due to financial engine limitations, as I understand it.)

[thehef]

So if I'm understanding, if you use "as played" schedules and do not institute a workaround (such as changing the rain % to 0), then you are in effect approximately doubling the number of rainouts and rescheduled games. First you have those that are built in to the "as played" schedule, and then you also have those that will occur as the whims of OOTP. Right?

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by HerbD

+1

My thoughts were already posted by another person...next time I should read the rest of the thread before posting

Thanks for thinking about me... it's the thought that counts.

I am so happy that rainouts will pose no problem to my dynasty league and will add a nice touch to it.

Much appreciate all of your replies.

Thank you.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by thehef

So if I'm understanding, if you use "as played" schedules and do not institute a workaround (such as changing the rain % to 0), then you are in effect approximately doubling the number of rainouts and rescheduled games.

I'm not sure about 'doubling' (the rate at which major league games are postponed has varied over the years, something which OOTP does not recreate), but essentially, yes.

Originally Posted by thehef

First you have those that are built in to the "as played" schedule, and then you also have those that will occur as the whims of OOTP. Right?

Correct.

(Note too the historical 'as played' MLB schedules will sometimes have clubs finishing the season with differing number of games played, since in real life the postponed games were not made up.)

[NoOne]

a retractable roof will work, too. a little quicker than typying "0" twelve times. you can leave the aesthetics all the same. you won't notice a difference as you play.

heck, even if someone just likes his schedule staying "pretty," it's a good enough reason.

[DreamTeams]

Originally Posted by NoOne

a retractable roof will work, too. a little quicker than typying "0" twelve times. you can leave the aesthetics all the same. you won't notice a difference as you play.

heck, even if someone just likes his schedule staying "pretty," it's a good enough reason.

Hmm. That would be quicker. Curious though, will wind still be a factor with retractable roof selected or is that disabled along with rain? I would think it would be fine otherwise might as well just have dome as the only other selection.

[thehef]

So does OOTP incorporate rainouts in the postseason?

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by thehef

So does OOTP incorporate rainouts in the postseason?

No, postponements do not happen in OOTP's post-season.

[Orioles1966]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

No, postponements do not happen in OOTP's post-season.

You can manually postpone a game and it will show up on the next day's schedule.

[BigRed75]

Not to necro this thread or anything, but I noticed this for the first time. OOTP has appeared to address the "two games in two cities on one day" bug.

In this case, a game between the Royals and Rangers in Kansas City was rained out, but the two teams weren't slated to play in KC later on in the season. So imagine my surprise (and delight) when I saw this on the daily games page:

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

One other thing to note about OOTP's postponement feature is that clubs will still nevertheless play out their full slate of scheduled games, regardless of how many postponements there are. That is, all postponed games are made up.

While that is nearly always the case currently at the major league level, it certainly isn't the case at the minor league level, nor was it the case at the major league level in the past. Teams sometimes finish the season with differing numbers of games played due to some games not being made up.

I have data.

The percentage of clubs in the named leagues, for the 2001-2016 time period, which lost either 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6+ games from its full schedule due to postponed games not being made up (i.e. the games were cancelled). The ten full-season and two short-season leagues are included, with MLB as a reference.

       0    -1    -2    -3    -4    -5    -6+
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MLB  92.1   7.5   0.4    -     -     -     - 
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INT  58.9  24.1  11.6   4.5   0.9    -     - 
PCL  60.9  23.8   7.8   2.7   2.3   1.6   0.8
EAS  58.3  29.7   9.4   2.6    -     -     - 
SOU  34.4  30.6  18.8  11.3   2.5   0.6   1.9
TEX  61.7  22.7   8.6   4.7   1.6   0.8    - 
CAL  95.6   3.8   0.6    -     -     -     - 
CAR  32.0  32.8  23.4   7.8   2.3   1.6    - 
FSL   9.4  12.5  14.6  14.6  10.4  15.1  23.4
MID  22.7  38.7  17.6  12.2   5.5   2.1   1.3
SAL  22.3  30.2  21.9   9.9  10.7   2.5   2.5
---------------------------------------------
NYP  34.4  39.3  20.1   3.6   2.7    -     - 
NWL  92.2   6.3   1.6    -     -     -     -

As you can see, there is considerable variety in the degree to which clubs in the various leagues miss out on games from their schedule due to postponed games not being made up. (Few teams in the Florida State League, for example, play out their full 140-game schedule, and a good portion lose 6 or more games.)

[Klaus 74]

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