New OOTP 17 public BETA available! Version 17.2.31 - Page 2

DocHalladay · 03-20-2016, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jman0329

Weird, I also have quite a few issues regarding the offense

Jman, can you check your historical simulation accuracy home run % for me?

I just ran a single season test, using the mlb new season mode and other than changing scouting to be 100% (so i could trust the power ratings), no changes were made on my part.

I ran the one year sim and home runs were +7%. This is post-patch. Pre-patch, i was getting 2-3% increase in home runs.

I'm certainly not saying there is anything wrong, and after all it is just one sim (I am running more) but felt i should chime in with what I am seeing as well. Hoping others can share their results also.

btw. To possibly counter-act any bias, Dave Shoenfield of ESPN recently noted home runs jumped 723 between 2014 and 2015.

Where did all the home runs in 2015 come from? - SweetSpot- ESPN

Habsfan18 · 03-20-2016, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by osborneman

I saw a few of those yesterday with the original Beta. When the starter gets shelled, it seemed like the AI would take em out and go through all the rest of the available relievers over the course of the game. Towards the end, they would end up putting in position players to pitch, and that's when the score would really get crazy. I think that's a bug. The AI should put in somebody with high stamina, and if none are available, they gotta keep the starter in for more than 1-2 innings. At least that was my experience, I saw a team score over 35 runs at Coors and another score over 25 runs at AT&T.

Would you mind posting that on the bugs forum? Probably best to specify that it was with the previous beta version, just in case it was fixed already, but would probably be a good idea to let them know.

polydamas · 03-20-2016, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by polydamas

Does this fix the excessive offense?

The answer to this is no. Miguel Cabrera is on pace for 95 homers in a league with 1 for all the modifiers.

Habsfan18 · 03-20-2016, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by polydamas

The answer to this is no. Miguel Cabrera is on pace for 95 homers in a league with 1 for all the modifiers.

How far into the season? Pace isn't really something to get too caught up in, because it changes all the time early in the season. Now, if he were hitting at that pace half way through the season, then it's certainly concerning.

20-30 games in? Not really.

DocHalladay · 03-20-2016, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DocHalladay

Jman, can you check your historical simulation accuracy home run % for me?

I just ran a single season test, using the mlb new season mode and other than changing scouting to be 100% (so i could trust the power ratings), no changes were made on my part.

I ran the one year sim and home runs were +7%. This is post-patch. Pre-patch, i was getting 2-3% increase in home runs.

I'm certainly not saying there is anything wrong, and after all it is just one sim (I am running more) but felt i should chime in with what I am seeing as well. Hoping others can share their results also.

btw. To possibly counter-act any bias, Dave Shoenfield of ESPN recently noted home runs jumped 723 between 2014 and 2015.

Where did all the home runs in 2015 come from? - SweetSpot- ESPN

Ran another one season test, home runs were up 6.3% over 2015 shown in the Historical Simulation Accuracy section of the game. Not saying this is good or bad, just sharing and hopeful someone else might chime in with their sim season results for context?

polydamas · 03-20-2016, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Habsfan18

How far into the season? Pace isn't really something to get too caught up in, because it changes all the time early in the season. Now, if he were hitting at that pace half way through the season, then it's certainly concerning.

20-30 games in? Not really.

71 games in, 43 home runs currently.

Habsfan18 · 03-20-2016, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by polydamas

71 games in, 43 home runs currently.

Yeah that's definitely off. I'll have to do more testing. In my first test sim with this new beta version, Chris Davis won the HR title with 54. That's realistic. But like I said, I'll do more testing.

skunkle333 · 03-20-2016, 07:22 PM

What a fantastic game. OOTP16 grabbed me some weeks back when I got Win10 with their male announcer and now V17 is even better with more stuff.

Thanks for the patch.

These old eyes are hoping down the road (not too far down) that the ball size in the 3D can be like it is in V16.

Great game...appreciate your work...

DocHalladay · 03-20-2016, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DocHalladay

Ran another one season test, home runs were up 6.3% over 2015 shown in the Historical Simulation Accuracy section of the game. Not saying this is good or bad, just sharing and hopeful someone else might chime in with their sim season results for context?

Ranking of the home runs hit by player. Russell Martin hit 35 bombs! Hope he does that this year for the Jays.

polydamas · 03-20-2016, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DocHalladay

Ranking of the home runs hit by player. Russell Martin hit 35 bombs! Hope he does that this year for the Jays.

That doesn't look too bad, I wonder what's going on in my league.

DocHalladay · 03-20-2016, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by polydamas

That doesn't look too bad, I wonder what's going on in my league.

My only concern in looking at it at first blush, is Martin's highest home runs hit for his career is 23, in 2015. Could it happen? Possibly. I do raise an eye-brow somewhat when a 33 year old catcher out-hits his career home run record by 12.

I will continue to run random, one season sims changing nothing but scouting to 100% until I feel comfortable with what I see. Just trying to help the community with my single observations.

IanIachimoe · 03-20-2016, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by geno27

Maybe an ignorant question on my part and forgive me for being a little slow but how do we "install" this patch over the new installation? Is it as simple as just running it and it does it automatically like the installer for the game did? (That was the easiest thing I've ever done so far, which I'm thrilled about BTW).

yep. just download it & run the file like you did the original link. It should install right over it. very easy.

Habsfan18 · 03-20-2016, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by osborneman

I saw a few of those yesterday with the original Beta. When the starter gets shelled, it seemed like the AI would take em out and go through all the rest of the available relievers over the course of the game. Towards the end, they would end up putting in position players to pitch, and that's when the score would really get crazy. I think that's a bug. The AI should put in somebody with high stamina, and if none are available, they gotta keep the starter in for more than 1-2 innings. At least that was my experience, I saw a team score over 35 runs at Coors and another score over 25 runs at AT&T.

This poster is experiencing the same issue:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d-quickly.html

Matt Uk · 03-20-2016, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NCBeachBum

I do hope that eventually y'all can find a way again to release smaller patches that aren't an entire installer. This is a 1.5 hour download each time for some of us...

Wow, really? What kind of internet speed are you on?

bwburke94 · 03-20-2016, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NCBeachBum

I do hope that eventually y'all can find a way again to release smaller patches that aren't an entire installer. This is a 1.5 hour download each time for some of us...

I'm not quite as much an old-timer as you are, but I do remember downloading on DSL. And no, I don't mean the Dominican Summer League.

Habsfan18 · 03-20-2016, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bwburke94

I'm not quite as much an old-timer as you are, but I do remember downloading on DSL. And no, I don't mean the Dominican Summer League.

DSL eh? I remember thinking that was the greatest thing ever after I upgraded from my AOL dial-up.

pgd44 · 03-20-2016, 08:12 PM

Hi, Thanks for the quick update.

Just wondering if I should restart my historical seasons after this update or will they be fine?

Thanks

RevRedbird23 · 03-20-2016, 08:45 PM

Simmed offensive averages might be high, but my play by play team's offense is the worst I've ever seen.

kenman · 03-20-2016, 08:47 PM

In response to the question about how to install the fixes: Yep, Just double click on the downloaded.exe

NCBeachBum · 03-20-2016, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Uk

Wow, really? What kind of internet speed are you on?

DSL. Habs and burke were on the nose. This is Merka, 98th in the world in average internet speed (I think it was 98th. Or maybe 92nd? Screw it, somewhere in there).

03-20-2016, 07:22 PM	#28
skunkle333 All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2006 Location: St. Louis metro area...IL side. Posts: 643	What a fantastic game. OOTP16 grabbed me some weeks back when I got Win10 with their male announcer and now V17 is even better with more stuff. Thanks for the patch. These old eyes are hoping down the road (not too far down) that the ball size in the 3D can be like it is in V16. Great game...appreciate your work... __________________ Today is the first day of the rest of your life. Adjust accordingly. Don't forget to try PStrickert's great 1959 World Series Quickstart Mod for V12 & V11 !! At Padresfan's site.

03-20-2016, 08:47 PM	#39
kenman Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Floral City, Florida Posts: 71	In response to the question about how to install the fixes: Yep, Just double click on the downloaded.exe Last edited by kenman; 03-20-2016 at 08:50 PM.

03-20-2016, 08:12 PM	#37
pgd44 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 159	Hi, Thanks for the quick update. Just wondering if I should restart my historical seasons after this update or will they be fine? Thanks

03-20-2016, 08:45 PM	#38
RevRedbird23 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 75	Simmed offensive averages might be high, but my play by play team's offense is the worst I've ever seen.