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Old 04-29-2015, 04:37 PM   #21
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Old 04-29-2015, 04:38 PM   #22
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Is it realistic to offer majorly front-loaded deals? Nope, but it's b/c the front offices are adverse to offering them, not at all b/c the players would prefer getting most of the money deferred when inflation makes that $40M a decade from now worth less than $40M today is worth (not even including the up front salaries' worth in better investment opportunities). A player has zero incentive to turn down a front loaded deal
That only works if they spend the whole 40 million in a decade and lives in a box the rest of their life.

Inflation has nothing to do with anything.
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That only works if they spend the whole 40 million in a decade and lives in a box the rest of their life.

Inflation has nothing to do with anything.
Inflation has everything to do with it. The present value of future cash flows of a front loaded contract is much greater than a back loaded contract.
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Good replies guys, just reinforcing what I thought. I don't plan to do such a thing ever again, was honestly surprised these things worked.

Such a deal would never happen but to add on to you guys about a player accepting such a deal, I don't think they'd be opposed. Getting the money now is better than later due to inflation. Plus, would a player really care about when he gets the 100m guaranteed as long as he gets it? He gets 70m in the first 2 years and then 30m in the next 8, still gets 100m and inflation doesn't hurt him as much.

What I did was fleecing the AI, that's for sure though.

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Old 04-29-2015, 08:51 PM   #25
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Just last night I had a player (Andrelton Simmons) send me an email in the final year of his contract asking for an extension. I went to offer contract to see what he was looking for and he wanted a heavily fronted loaded contract. I have never seen a contract like that requested. Since a player can ask for one, I assume the AI could sign someone to one.
Okay, I just fired up the laptop to get the exact details. Simmons is asking me for a 2 year deal.

Year 1 - $16MM
Year 2 - $2.6MM

Like I said, I have never seen one as heavily front loaded as this. Granted, this is a short term deal, but it really caught my attention.
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Okay, I just fired up the laptop to get the exact details. Simmons is asking me for a 2 year deal.

Year 1 - $16MM
Year 2 - $2.6MM

Like I said, I have never seen one as heavily front loaded as this. Granted, this is a short term deal, but it really caught my attention.
I don't think it should be considered an exploit if the player (as in AI) is the one to propose it, as I said in my post after reading many others.

I've read the thread and will never propose a contract (I don't think I have, but won't in the future, either) in which the most expensive year is more than double the least expensive year. I think that's a good house rule to impose on myself, as per MBarrett's idea.

But if a player proposes one to me, and I feel that the front- or back-loading is something I also want, I'll feel free to accept or even to counterpropose a lower amount with the same ratio.
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