Strategy For Draft - Page 2

philthepat · 01-14-2014, 10:38 PM

Id take the SS, but thats just me

le receveur · 01-14-2014, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by philthepat

Id take the SS, but thats just me

how do you drafts look like? in my current dynasty, AI picks 80% pitchers in round one.

also looking at top 10 WAR pitcher in my league, 9 were drafted in first 10 picks. Hitters, some lower picks, some internationals...

snepp · 01-14-2014, 11:27 PM

21-year-old out of high school?

Lukas Berger · 01-14-2014, 11:49 PM

Take the SS. Not even a question in my mind.

Klew1986 · 01-14-2014, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by snepp

21-year-old out of high school?

Yeah. I don't get why it did that. I specifically have HS ages 14-17

Mr. Baseball · 01-15-2014, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by snepp

21-year-old out of high school?

Kindergarten was hard. Leave him alone.

pjh5165 · 01-15-2014, 10:02 AM

100% take the shortstop. A guy with a stick like that who plays gold glove level defense at a premium position and can also steal bases is a potential MVP level superstar. Plus hes already somewhat developed and is a switch hitter on top of it all. No way you can pass that up.

BIG17EASY · 01-15-2014, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pjh5165

100% take the shortstop. A guy with a stick like that who plays gold glove level defense at a premium position and can also steal bases is a potential MVP level superstar. Plus hes already somewhat developed and is a switch hitter on top of it all. No way you can pass that up.

This.

philthepat · 01-15-2014, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pjh5165

100% take the shortstop. A guy with a stick like that who plays gold glove level defense at a premium position and can also steal bases is a potential MVP level superstar. Plus hes already somewhat developed and is a switch hitter on top of it all. No way you can pass that up.

Exactly! A vast majority of the time Id go for the best available arm, but a switch hitting, 5 tool shortstop with a great work ethic? Yes please!

Mike Donlin · 01-15-2014, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by pjh5165

100% take the shortstop. A guy with a stick like that who plays gold glove level defense at a premium position and can also steal bases is a potential MVP level superstar. Plus hes already somewhat developed and is a switch hitter on top of it all. No way you can pass that up.

Agreed.

OmahaReynolds · 01-15-2014, 11:44 AM

Everybody saying draft the shortstop are absolutely correct. A shortstop with that kind of talent level, if he reaches it, is a once-in-a-decade or perhaps even more rare of a player. Top of the charts contact with above average power and discipline, plus-plus defense, speed... if you want a pitcher, draft the SS and flip him for two top pitching prospects in a couple years.

Matt Arnold · 01-15-2014, 12:25 PM

While I know it's almost impossible to find a top pitching prospect late, the SS basically looks like he'll hit .340 with 20/20 or 30/30 potential, while playing gold glove D. The pitcher has to be 90+ in all 3 pitching categories with at least 3+ pitches also in the 90+ range for me to think about picking him ahead of a hitter like that.

cmaug · 01-15-2014, 03:23 PM

I'm taking that SS.

His defense will make your pitchers better and he'll bat in an important spot in your line-up...soon.

le receveur · 01-15-2014, 03:32 PM

How often do you get a 10 WAR pitcher in HS in AI generated drafts (sorry can't remember)? with Feeders i see 4 WAR and pick at 1.1 any day (well based on FIP, but this is not provided in view above).

(just trying to adjust).... my main issue with picking the SS, is next year with the 10th pick, i would still be able to pick an all-star bat, but not such an impact pitcher from what i have seen so far in OOTP solo, where AI picks pitchers with the first 10 picks... ...

le receveur · 01-15-2014, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cmaug

I'm taking that SS.

His defense will make your pitchers better and he'll bat in an important spot in your line-up...soon.

i agree with Defense. but i get gold glove winners from College in the 5th round. i don't get Aces material in the 2nd round.... (note that i also do not sign major FA, only 3rd tier ones, so i rely on draft in my dynasty, so this might affect my view)....

kingcharlesxii · 01-15-2014, 03:41 PM

While the pitcher looks to be quite good, the SS looks like an inner circle HOF type player if he develops. He's a switch-hitter on top of that. I'd take the SS with no hesitation.

EvilGenius · 01-16-2014, 11:03 AM

Optimal draft strategy is a million dollar question even in the real world.

I think we can all agree that in the first round (possibly even supplemental), you draft the best player out there at the moment. You don't pass up the next Babe Ruth reasoning that you already have outfielders.

My experience with OOTP:

Average hitters can flourish with good coaches. Looking at the superstars on my team, the original scouting report the day I drafted them wouldn't blow you away.

However, I have never noticed fielding stats improve. Mediocre SS ratings never become outstanding.

Therefore, I HIGHLY favor fielding stats in the later rounds.

'94 EXPOS · 01-16-2014, 08:28 PM

I would definetely go with the SS Demayo.

- he is 21 yrs old and developing as a star vs the SP who is younger and could easily go south

- aside from the developing - but quite advanced - impact bat the SS already is a dynamite def SS and has speed to burn vs the SP whose ratings (stamina and 3rd pitch) could easily end up slotting him in to a bullpen arm instead of a starter

I generally go pitching over position. I find it easier to monitor a pitcher's development then a hitter for some reason. I often use my excessive pitching depth to acquire the assets I need for my big league team. As stated the AI loves Starters which is great for trade value.

That being said the SS in this scenario is just too good to pass up. Hs ceiling and floor appear higher then the SP.

01-15-2014, 03:32 PM	#34
le receveur All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: canada Posts: 1,736	quick question How often do you get a 10 WAR pitcher in HS in AI generated drafts (sorry can't remember)? with Feeders i see 4 WAR and pick at 1.1 any day (well based on FIP, but this is not provided in view above). (just trying to adjust).... my main issue with picking the SS, is next year with the 10th pick, i would still be able to pick an all-star bat, but not such an impact pitcher from what i have seen so far in OOTP solo, where AI picks pitchers with the first 10 picks... ...

01-15-2014, 03:41 PM	#36
kingcharlesxii Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,730	While the pitcher looks to be quite good, the SS looks like an inner circle HOF type player if he develops. He's a switch-hitter on top of that. I'd take the SS with no hesitation. __________________ OTBA - Stockholm Royal Squirrels of Sweden OOTP Grand League Champion 2015

01-14-2014, 10:38 PM	#21
philthepat Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dover, UK Posts: 279	Id take the SS, but thats just me

01-14-2014, 11:27 PM	#23
snepp All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,486	21-year-old out of high school?

01-14-2014, 11:49 PM	#24
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 21,364	Take the SS. Not even a question in my mind.

01-15-2014, 10:02 AM	#27
pjh5165 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 410	100% take the shortstop. A guy with a stick like that who plays gold glove level defense at a premium position and can also steal bases is a potential MVP level superstar. Plus hes already somewhat developed and is a switch hitter on top of it all. No way you can pass that up.

01-15-2014, 11:44 AM	#31
OmahaReynolds All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: New York Posts: 653	Everybody saying draft the shortstop are absolutely correct. A shortstop with that kind of talent level, if he reaches it, is a once-in-a-decade or perhaps even more rare of a player. Top of the charts contact with above average power and discipline, plus-plus defense, speed... if you want a pitcher, draft the SS and flip him for two top pitching prospects in a couple years.

01-15-2014, 12:25 PM	#32
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,848	While I know it's almost impossible to find a top pitching prospect late, the SS basically looks like he'll hit .340 with 20/20 or 30/30 potential, while playing gold glove D. The pitcher has to be 90+ in all 3 pitching categories with at least 3+ pitches also in the 90+ range for me to think about picking him ahead of a hitter like that.

01-15-2014, 03:23 PM	#33
cmaug Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 344	I'm taking that SS. His defense will make your pitchers better and he'll bat in an important spot in your line-up...soon.

01-16-2014, 11:03 AM	#37
EvilGenius Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 153	Optimal draft strategy is a million dollar question even in the real world. I think we can all agree that in the first round (possibly even supplemental), you draft the best player out there at the moment. You don't pass up the next Babe Ruth reasoning that you already have outfielders. My experience with OOTP: Average hitters can flourish with good coaches. Looking at the superstars on my team, the original scouting report the day I drafted them wouldn't blow you away. However, I have never noticed fielding stats improve. Mediocre SS ratings never become outstanding. Therefore, I HIGHLY favor fielding stats in the later rounds.

01-16-2014, 08:28 PM	#38
'94 EXPOS Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 318	I would definetely go with the SS Demayo. - he is 21 yrs old and developing as a star vs the SP who is younger and could easily go south - aside from the developing - but quite advanced - impact bat the SS already is a dynamite def SS and has speed to burn vs the SP whose ratings (stamina and 3rd pitch) could easily end up slotting him in to a bullpen arm instead of a starter I generally go pitching over position. I find it easier to monitor a pitcher's development then a hitter for some reason. I often use my excessive pitching depth to acquire the assets I need for my big league team. As stated the AI loves Starters which is great for trade value. That being said the SS in this scenario is just too good to pass up. Hs ceiling and floor appear higher then the SP.