Send In The Clones! Nine Ichiro Suzukis vs. Nine Miguel Cabreras - Page 2

Fyrestorm3 · 09-21-2013, 04:03 PM

Is anyone else impressed that he simmed 20,000 games? This was an awesome experiment.

injury log · 09-21-2013, 08:20 PM

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Isn't this only for AI and real players that come in or have played 1B? My example of 4'10 Ewok Wicket won't work because I have him a s a bad 1B.

I don't understand what you're saying, precisely. Changes were made to the fielding model in OOTP-13, and one of those changes was to factor in height in the 1B rating, so that 5'9'' shortstops playing 1B wouldn't have ratings of 295 out of 100.

VanillaGorilla · 09-21-2013, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

Is anyone else impressed that he simmed 20,000 games? This was an awesome experiment.

Very.

TGH-Adfabre · 09-21-2013, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

Is anyone else impressed that he simmed 20,000 games? This was an awesome experiment.

Yup, very nice.

snepp · 09-21-2013, 10:53 PM

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Is anyone else impressed that he simmed 20,000 games? This was an awesome experiment.

Hell yeah I'm impressed.

My attempts at employing the scientific method usually end somewhere around a couple of hundred.

bazeall · 09-23-2013, 12:31 AM

"Lastly, I neutralized the strategy for both teams, running everything right down the middle for every split and every situation for both teams."

That could favor one team over the other. A team of slower sluggers is favored by let them hit, while a team of faster on base guys is favored by small ball. I think a neutral strategy favors let them hit.

chucksabr · 09-23-2013, 10:18 AM

FWIW, I simmed 20,000 games between nine 2004 Ichiros and nine 2004 Melvin Moras, and the results were a little clearer:

chucksabr · 09-23-2013, 10:20 AM

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Is anyone else impressed that he simmed 20,000 games? This was an awesome experiment.

Thank you! I'll take your requests now ...

TGH-Adfabre · 09-23-2013, 10:22 AM

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Thank you! I'll take your requests now ...

Cobb vs. DiMaggio

TGH-Adfabre · 09-23-2013, 10:23 AM

All SP Cy Young clones.

chucksabr · 09-23-2013, 10:30 AM

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"Lastly, I neutralized the strategy for both teams, running everything right down the middle for every split and every situation for both teams."

That could favor one team over the other. A team of slower sluggers is favored by let them hit, while a team of faster on base guys is favored by small ball. I think a neutral strategy favors let them hit.

That might very well be, but I'm not sure how else to approach it to obtain as pure a result as possible. The idea was to see which type of hitter creates more wins offensively while holding every other variable in control. If I start futzing with things like strategies individualized for each team, it might lead me to inadvertently favor one team over the other based on how I change the strategies, whether consciously or not.

That having been said, even with neutralized strategies, you may notice that in-game results did favor their individual abilities. The Flying Ichiros stole more bases; the Slugging Miguels (and Melvins) took more walks. And I don't know this for a fact, but I also sense that the Ichiros were also sent by the third base coach more than the M's were, because of their relative speed.

chucksabr · 09-23-2013, 10:30 AM

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Cobb vs. DiMaggio

Which Cobb and which Dimaggio?

chucksabr · 09-23-2013, 10:32 AM

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All SP Cy Young clones.

Interesting--meaning, Ichiros and Miguels, but using all Cy Young clones as starters? Or do you mean five Cy Youngs versus some other pitcher, using average fictional position players, relievers and closers?

ThatSeventiesGuy · 09-23-2013, 10:32 AM

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Which Cobb and which Dimaggio?

George Cobb and Vince DiMaggio, who else?

chucksabr · 09-23-2013, 11:08 AM

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George Cobb and Vince DiMaggio, who else?

Ha ha! Nice!

I was asking more what season Cobb versus what season DiMaggio.

TGH-Adfabre · 09-23-2013, 01:24 PM

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Ha ha! Nice!

I was asking more what season Cobb versus what season DiMaggio.

I don't know off the top of my head. They both just jumped to mind when I read your post.

TGH-Adfabre · 09-23-2013, 01:25 PM

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but using all Cy Young clones as starters?

This, so both teams face the same pitching.

chucksabr · 09-23-2013, 04:16 PM

So you're saying the Flying Ichiros and the Flying Miguels facing all clones of Cy Young as starters?

chucksabr · 09-23-2013, 06:02 PM

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So you're saying the Flying Ichiros and the Flying Miguels facing all clones of Cy Young as starters?

I went ahead and did this, and I must say, you must have known something about how a rotation of Cy Youngs would do against Miguel Cabrera, as opposed to against Ichiro:

TribeFanInNC · 09-23-2013, 06:43 PM

Is anyone else saying to themselves:

First Base...Bugs Bunny
Second Base...Bugs Bunny
Third Base...Bugs Bunny
Pitcher...Bugs Bunny

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TGH-Adfabre Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,601	All SP Cy Young clones. __________________ You mock me, therefore I am My wife

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chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	So you're saying the Flying Ichiros and the Flying Miguels facing all clones of Cy Young as starters? __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

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Fyrestorm3 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, Massachusetts Posts: 2,928	Is anyone else impressed that he simmed 20,000 games? This was an awesome experiment.

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bazeall Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 190	"Lastly, I neutralized the strategy for both teams, running everything right down the middle for every split and every situation for both teams." That could favor one team over the other. A team of slower sluggers is favored by let them hit, while a team of faster on base guys is favored by small ball. I think a neutral strategy favors let them hit.

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TribeFanInNC Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,019	Is anyone else saying to themselves: First Base...Bugs Bunny Second Base...Bugs Bunny Third Base...Bugs Bunny Pitcher...Bugs Bunny