Do you remember Hoyler Jones?

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by r0nster

Higgison's career took a nose dive once they moved into Comerica park .... I have to admit I loved Tiger stadium (it was my home away from home)

I absolutely cherish Tiger Stadium. Love it that my buddy scooped up a handful of dirt from the last weekend and mailed it to me. It sits next to my computer when I'm playing OOTP. Was lucky enough to be there in 84 when they beat the Brewers to clinch and the night they beat the Royals to head to the Series.

Oh and one of the best things about that place were the hotdogs. Always had to get one from the vendor(only mustard of course applied with that oversized tongue depressor) and one from the concession stand. Loved it that they were basically two different entities. The steam dog from the vendor and the burn mark one from the stand.

Oh and how can you not like a place where as 7 year old you had a little old woman, a complete stranger, probably at least 80+ teach you how to keep score

Or the place where another lady drops a cigarette and it goes into her purse. Next thing you know, her purse is on fire.

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by Nunyer

I loved Tiger Stadium... if I was sitting in the good seats along the infield baselines and in front of the restricted views... those were great sight lines. But the place really was a dump... and probably two thirds of the seats either had some of your view blocked by support beams or overhangs or were 500 feet away from home plate.

Over the years Comerica has really grown on me. The wind whips around a bit much in the spring due to the more open layout and the sunken playing field... but generally speaking there isn't a bad seat in the house.

I've only made to Comerica a few times, but in my opinion one it's biggest faults is just how far away from the field you are. Especially in the upper deck. It's a nice place though.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

I've never understood this. I go to a lot of games, and there are sometimes players whom I can't stand out there, but doing that just never made any sense to me. I just cheer good plays and boo bad calls.

You are such a good spectator. Congrats!

[olivertheorem]

Originally Posted by David Watts

Oh and how can you not like a place where as 7 year old you had a little old woman, a complete stranger, probably at least 80+ teach you how to keep score

Every baseball fan should know how to keep a scorebook. You learn how to watch the game. I learned back in Little League, though I haven't actually done it in a long time. I tried to score the All-Star game from home one year. I gave up somewhere around the fourth inning since the scorebook I had was woefully inadequate to the task of keeping up with all the subs.

[Nunyer]

Originally Posted by David Watts

I've only made to Comerica a few times, but in my opinion one it's biggest faults is just how far away from the field you are. Especially in the upper deck. It's a nice place though.

I think that was a conscious design choice though... to minimize the overall size of the upper deck, push it outward and increase the grade.. That allowed a larger main level with no overhangs. On the main level, you can be 40 rows back or in the club level with nothing in front of you but the field, blue skies and the occasional vendor. At the risk of sounding like a baseball snob... I've probably only sat in the upper deck maybe a half dozen times in the 200 or so games I've attended... so I'm not overly familiar with the sight lines.

Tiger Stadium was superior in the first handful of rows along the baselines before the support beams and overhang started intruding. Anything beyond that and when you tilted your head back to track a fly ball, you got an eye full of girders covered in pigeon poop. Thankfully most of games I took in at Tiger Stadium were well after their 1984 glory days... A busy mid-week day game was maybe 10,000 fans, so sneaking away from restricted views wasn't too challenging as long as those ruthless old man ushers were distracted.

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by David Watts

I absolutely cherish Tiger Stadium. Love it that my buddy scooped up a handful of dirt from the last weekend and mailed it to me. It sits next to my computer when I'm playing OOTP.

My brother was at one of those games (was there only one?) where they let fans walk the roped off infield. He snapped some photos from eye level on the field scooped clay from the three base paths they were allowed on.

He gave me a big frame with the pictures and the clay laid out in the three base path lines as a Christmas present. It's on the wall in my office; I'll have to snap a picture to post some day.

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by Nunyer

I think that was a conscious design choice though... to minimize the overall size of the upper deck, push it outward and increase the grade.. That allowed a larger main level with no overhangs. On the main level, you can be 40 rows back or in the club level with nothing in front of you but the field, blue skies and the occasional vendor. At the risk of sounding like a baseball snob... I've probably only sat in the upper deck maybe a half dozen times in the 200 or so games I've attended... so I'm not overly familiar with the sight lines.

Tiger Stadium was superior in the first handful of rows along the baselines before the support beams and overhang started intruding. Anything beyond that and when you tilted your head back to track a fly ball, you got an eye full of girders covered in pigeon poop. Thankfully most of games I took in at Tiger Stadium were well after their 1984 glory days... A busy mid-week day game was maybe 10,000 fans, so sneaking away from restricted views wasn't too challenging as long as those ruthless old man ushers were distracted.

Oh how I know about the view of the support beams. Attended a game in which Jason Thompson hit a bomb over the roof. Didn't know about it clearing the roof till the next day. Yup our seats were lower deck but close to the last rows.

Did see Eddie Murray hit one over the roof during batting practice though.

[r0nster]

I went to a game at Tiger Stadium where Cecil Fielder hit the roof but I didn't know about it for I was in lower deck at the time. I was there in 1984 too but unfortunately only went on June 1st. Yep right after the 35-5 start GRRR guess it was our fault they didn't do as well since LOL.

Do you guys remember the revolt over Ball Park Hot Dogs a couple years prior to the closing of Tiger Stadium??? After one year they brought Ball Park back. I hated Kawalski Dogs

[r0nster]

I should note that I prefer Tiger Stadium over Comerica park. In saying this I am pretty sure I be in the minority. I have NEVER paid to goto Comerica park and I do not like how nearly every seat is pretty much nose bleed seats (meaning so far back) Where as at TIger Stadium you was a part of the game as ever. The only bad thing was the posts holding up the upper deck.
I did go to the final weekend games and sat in the bleachers for the first time. Figured I should get a seat where I never sat before. Still was a blast.

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by r0nster

I should note that I prefer Tiger Stadium over Comerica park. In saying this I am pretty sure I be in the minority. I have NEVER paid to goto Comerica park and I do not like how nearly every seat is pretty much nose bleed seats (meaning so far back) Where as at TIger Stadium you was a part of the game as ever. The only bad thing was the posts holding up the upper deck.
I did go to the final weekend games and sat in the bleachers for the first time. Figured I should get a seat where I never sat before. Still was a blast.

I too am in that minority, but I don't dislike Comerica. Simply don't like it as much as Tiger Stadium. Been awhile since I have been back home. Last time I was home the old park was still standing. Really scared that I will break down crying if I drive by and see what little is left these days.
Baseball is such a unique and grand spectacle.

Not baseball related, but have they torn down the Silverdome yet? Funny, I seen a ton of games there, more Pistons than Lions, but disliked that place from almost day one.

[r0nster]

NO they have NOT torn Silverdome down although they are strongly considering a new stadium for the Red Wings (yep AGAIN) LOL the thought now is to get it near the Lions and Comerica park.

As far as Tiger Stadium my friends tell me that Tiger Stadium was built for people like me and Comerica park was built for people like them... I see their point too.

the last time I seen Tiger Stadium was 2 months before it was torn down and Ernie Harwell couldn't save the home plate area of the stadium to turn it into a museam. I met him one time by accident and he sure is a nice man. You would never have known he was famous or anything of a sort. I even went to the game where they honored him with a statute. I also went to the last game with George Brett and Carl Yaz visited Tiger Stadium as a player. Truth be told I had no clue at the time they was retiring and had wondered why the big applause to a opposing player LOL.

[r0nster]

I miss the call of somebody saying he hit a upper deck shot. Now a homerun is just a homerun. Also we now get the he hit it over the bullpen the original fence line.

[Cowboys3356]

In my historical leagues I will occasionally take a flame out like Bobby Higginson and delete him from the database and then re-import him into the game as part of the rookie draft to see if he does better the second time around.

Kind of interesting to watch out they turn out the second time around, the results can be surprising!

[Cowboys3356]

Originally Posted by David Watts

Well do you?

Hoyler Jones was born on 1890 to George Hartwell Jones and Minnie Brown. Hoyler Jones married Ina Mae Wood and had 5 children. He passed away on 1937 in Longview, Texas, USA.

That guy?

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by Cowboys3356

Hoyler Jones was born on 1890 to George Hartwell Jones and Minnie Brown. Hoyler Jones married Ina Mae Wood and had 5 children. He passed away on 1937 in Longview, Texas, USA.

That guy?

I'm only about 60 miles straight down I-20 from Longview. Maybe I should visit Hoyler's grave.