How to dump big contract players? - Page 2

Pdubya64 · 07-17-2013, 10:05 AM

Usually I find myself just waiting out the player's contract, or hoping they retire one way or another

Otherwise you end up screwing your team up as others mentioned above. I am not a huge Yankee hater, but I very rarely choose them to play in MLB leagues as their bankroll reduces the challenge to a large degree. It's all in how one looks at it at the end of the day.

Good luck!

ashantewarrier · 07-17-2013, 10:45 AM

I would say the Yankees bankroll is somewhat compromised in years 2013-2018 which makes it challenging.

LondonYankee · 07-17-2013, 10:50 AM

It's definitely a challenge!
Also this is my first OOTP experience and I really wanted to be the Yankees first time up.

ashantewarrier · 07-17-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LondonYankee

It's definitely a challenge!
Also this is my first OOTP experience and I really wanted to be the Yankees first time up.

Play with "right to refuse minors assignment" enabled and you will really have a challenge on your hands.

LondonYankee · 07-17-2013, 11:29 AM

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Play with "right to refuse minors assignment" enabled and you will really have a challenge on your hands.

It's on. At least I haven't changed any settings. And certain players have the right to refuse. I've had to get them through waivers to assign them to AAA.

soxfan34 · 07-17-2013, 11:34 AM

What trade settings are being used? What is cash max set at?

Déjà Bru · 07-17-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LondonYankee

Need some help with getting rid of stupidly big contract players who are way over the hill. I'm the Yankees so clearly I have a few of these guys. No one will trade for them.
What happens if I put them on waivers?
Is there any way to pay them off to leave?

It's a cheat, but perhaps temporarily dialing back Trading Difficulty to Very Easy would help. Of course, as somebody said here, teams need to have budget room to take on those salaries unless you are taking similar contracts off their hands.

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Originally Posted by TribeFanInNC

Actually, now that you mention it, playing with the 2013 Yankees might be kind fun (something I would have never imagined in any other version of OOTP).

Hey, you may want to try the 1998 Yankees!

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Very good. A-Rod and Jeter are so useless they don't even have a position rating any more.

Too true. Too true, I'm afraid. A tribute to OOTPB realism.

soxfan34 · 07-17-2013, 11:40 AM

I mean, if you really want to go the cheating route, just jump in as commissioner and set them as a Free Agent (or drastically reduce their salary). I have been pushing for non-guaranteed contracts for awhile in this game, but I doubt it'll ever get added. The NFL does it, and it makes sense. It makes players work for their dollars, so teams don't end up with dead weight.

LondonYankee · 07-17-2013, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by soxfan34

What trade settings are being used? What is cash max set at?

Everything is default settings. I'm new to the game and didn't want to mess about yet.

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

It's a cheat, but perhaps temporarily dialing back Trading Difficulty to Very Easy would help. Of course, as somebody said here, teams need to have budget room to take on those salaries unless you are taking similar contracts off their hands.

Hey, you may want to try the 1998 Yankees!

Too true. Too true, I'm afraid. A tribute to OOTPB realism.

I'm happy to play the hand I'm dealt, I like the challenge although I could probably have made things easier on myself for my first go at this game!

I'm very sad about Jeter, but no man can go on for ever.

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Originally Posted by soxfan34

I mean, if you really want to go the cheating route, just jump in as commissioner and set them as a Free Agent (or drastically reduce their salary). I have been pushing for non-guaranteed contracts for awhile in this game, but I doubt it'll ever get added. The NFL does it, and it makes sense. It makes players work for their dollars, so teams don't end up with dead weight.

I'm not gonna cheat. I'm happpy to play it as is.

Déjà Bru · 07-17-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by LondonYankee

I'm not gonna cheat. I'm happpy to play it as is.

Aha! OK, guys, he passed the test! He's alright, for a bloke.

TribeFanInNC · 07-17-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Hey, you may want to try the 1998 Yankees!

I've come a long way in my lifetime on my personal position on the Yankees, having married into a Yankee family. But I would rather constantly rub alcohol on an everlasting paper cut than do as you suggest.

Déjà Bru · 07-17-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TribeFanInNC

I've come a long way in my lifetime on my personal position on the Yankees, having married into a Yankee family. But I would rather constantly rub alcohol on an everlasting paper cut than do as you suggest.

I hear you. I have some, uh, Mets fans in my tribe! However, my point was this (a brief thread detour, LondonYankee, if you please): The 1998 Yankees were not your typical late 20th Century / early 21st Century Yankee team. No A-Rods, etc. In that, they resemble this year's team but with different results, obviously.

redmarkYankees · 07-17-2013, 12:35 PM

I guess you're in 2014 or 2015, which is when Jeter and A-Rod's position ratings disappear for me. Basically I let them play on (with defensive substitutes setup), pursuing their top 3/4 positions respectively in hits/HRs leaderboards. Jeter shouldn't be on much money, though (8m option in 2014, usually settles for around $5m to extend after that). Don't offer extensions early in the season.

In 2013, I try to keep Cano to a 4/5 year extension; withdraw arbitration for Kuroda, and let Granderson take free agency (>draft pick). Hughes will want $15m or so. But then I will have already traded Hafner, Youkilis etc and have plenty of payroll to spare anyway.

JMDurron · 07-17-2013, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

I hear you. I have some, uh, Mets fans in my tribe! However, my point was this (a brief thread detour, LondonYankee, if you please): The 1998 Yankees were not your typical late 20th Century / early 21st Century Yankee team. No A-Rods, etc. In that, they resemble this year's team but with different results, obviously.

Different results in the sense that every other team in the division isn't a bumbling collection of incompetents. That's a major factor, aside from the obvious injuries, in the different results.

LondonYankee · 07-17-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by redmarkYankees

I guess you're in 2014 or 2015, which is when Jeter and A-Rod's position ratings disappear for me. Basically I let them play on (with defensive substitutes setup), pursuing their top 3/4 positions respectively in hits/HRs leaderboards. Jeter shouldn't be on much money, though (8m option in 2014, usually settles for around $5m to extend after that). Don't offer extensions early in the season.

In 2013, I try to keep Cano to a 4/5 year extension; withdraw arbitration for Kuroda, and let Granderson take free agency (>draft pick). Hughes will want $15m or so. But then I will have already traded Hafner, Youkilis etc and have plenty of payroll to spare anyway.

My dynasty gives more details, but it's safe to assume I did things a little differently. Not on all those players, but some.

redmarkYankees · 07-17-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LondonYankee

My dynasty gives more details, but it's safe to assume I did things a little differently. Not on all those players, but some.

Fair enough (and I certainly wasn't suggesting a blueprint). My aim is basically to keep career Yankees and trade for youngsters who will become career (ML) Yankees, while trying to avoid blatantly ripping off the AI in doing so (which is awkward, as I want to trade for promising rookies...).

LondonYankee · 07-17-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by redmarkYankees

Fair enough (and I certainly wasn't suggesting a blueprint). My aim is basically to keep career Yankees and trade for youngsters who will become career (ML) Yankees, while trying to avoid blatantly ripping off the AI in doing so (which is awkward, as I want to trade for promising rookies...).

When I get to describing it in my dynasty report, you'll see I wanted to do the same with Jeter but he just wasn't capable any longer. I'm trying to just win with this team, although I'm definitely developing some (hopefully) career Yankees.

redmarkYankees · 07-17-2013, 01:12 PM

In my last game, Jeter was slowly struggling towards 4th all time in hitting (at a rate of .200), when I had 2 top prospects take CEI's within a week. I rage quit, modified my old injuries.txt mod and restarted.

The Game · 07-17-2013, 01:34 PM

If you manually retire playes, i don't believe you take the fan interest hit from them retiring. I do this in my EBL league but not because the players are bad or i want to get rid of them. In my ABF I deal with that kind of thing. 3rd largest city last in Budget 16th, 15th in payroll.

fuzzy_patters · 07-17-2013, 02:23 PM

I usually send them an email explaining that I am dumping them. I try to include the line, "It's not you. It's me." I like to let them down easy.

07-17-2013, 10:05 AM	#21
Pdubya64 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Staunton, VA Posts: 501	Usually I find myself just waiting out the player's contract, or hoping they retire one way or another Otherwise you end up screwing your team up as others mentioned above. I am not a huge Yankee hater, but I very rarely choose them to play in MLB leagues as their bankroll reduces the challenge to a large degree. It's all in how one looks at it at the end of the day. Good luck! __________________ "Chew, if only you could see what I've seen with your eyes." - Roy Batty Blade Runner

07-17-2013, 10:45 AM	#22
ashantewarrier Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, NJ via Brooklyn, NY Posts: 2,310	How to dump big contract players? I would say the Yankees bankroll is somewhat compromised in years 2013-2018 which makes it challenging. __________________ "I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being." -Jackie Robinson, #42 Brooklyn Dodgers *"Hitting is better than sex."* - Reggie Jackson

07-17-2013, 10:50 AM	#23
LondonYankee Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: London Posts: 235	It's definitely a challenge! Also this is my first OOTP experience and I really wanted to be the Yankees first time up. __________________ My Yankees Dynasty - Winning with Broken Bombers MLB Expansion - Las Vegas

07-17-2013, 12:35 PM	#33
redmarkYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,283	I guess you're in 2014 or 2015, which is when Jeter and A-Rod's position ratings disappear for me. Basically I let them play on (with defensive substitutes setup), pursuing their top 3/4 positions respectively in hits/HRs leaderboards. Jeter shouldn't be on much money, though (8m option in 2014, usually settles for around $5m to extend after that). Don't offer extensions early in the season. In 2013, I try to keep Cano to a 4/5 year extension; withdraw arbitration for Kuroda, and let Granderson take free agency (>draft pick). Hughes will want $15m or so. But then I will have already traded Hafner, Youkilis etc and have plenty of payroll to spare anyway. __________________ In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. George Orwell

07-17-2013, 01:12 PM	#38
redmarkYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,283	In my last game, Jeter was slowly struggling towards 4th all time in hitting (at a rate of .200), when I had 2 top prospects take CEI's within a week. I rage quit, modified my old injuries.txt mod and restarted. __________________ In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. George Orwell

07-17-2013, 11:34 AM	#26
soxfan34 Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 471	What trade settings are being used? What is cash max set at?

07-17-2013, 11:40 AM	#28
soxfan34 Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 471	I mean, if you really want to go the cheating route, just jump in as commissioner and set them as a Free Agent (or drastically reduce their salary). I have been pushing for non-guaranteed contracts for awhile in this game, but I doubt it'll ever get added. The NFL does it, and it makes sense. It makes players work for their dollars, so teams don't end up with dead weight.

07-17-2013, 01:34 PM	#39
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	If you manually retire playes, i don't believe you take the fan interest hit from them retiring. I do this in my EBL league but not because the players are bad or i want to get rid of them. In my ABF I deal with that kind of thing. 3rd largest city last in Budget 16th, 15th in payroll. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

07-17-2013, 02:23 PM	#40
fuzzy_patters All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,806	I usually send them an email explaining that I am dumping them. I try to include the line, "It's not you. It's me." I like to let them down easy.