OOTP 13 Update, NEW Version 13.5.22 released! (July 31st)

[Cinnamon J. Scudworth]

Originally Posted by sc_superstar

With regards to the whole wild pitch/adavnce discussion.

I dont think its a point of what its scored, but rather there is no PbP for it so when your playing out games, it doesnt happen.

something along the lines of:

"Here's the 1-2 pitch, Oh it got away from the catcher, looks like the runner will advance, No wait! He retrieves the ball quicky and guns it to 3rd, OUT! What a play by the catcher to recover that play and turn it into an out."

The scoring issue is about figuring out how many times a year that kind of thing should be happening, based on the historical data. They'd have to figure out how many instances of "out, caught stealing" are really outs on a passed ball. Because you just know that if this feature gets added someone will come along complaining about it happening too often.

[Bobble]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

• Added a "Quick play to RISP" button to the in-game screen, it quick-sims the game until there are runners in scoring position or the half-inning is over

LOVE this. Thanks, Markus.

I don't know if anyone else plays this way, but I hover my cursor over the quick play button (quick play until RISP now). If I'm up, I just hit SPACE and go batter by batter. If I'm in the field, I hit the right mouse button to click the quick play. With the latest patch, hitting SPACE doesn't do anything if the cursor is over a button. You have to move off the quick play button.

It's a problem for me but I could see this being a much bigger issue for people who don't realize that their cursor has wandered over a button and are wondering why the spacebar isn't working.

Come to think of it, I'll submit a trouble ticket.

Edit: It only seems to be the case if you wait until the pop-up text shows up.

Edit #2: Seems like it's the case with the numbered controls as well. If the tooltip is up, you can't hit 3 for a bunt. Well, you can hit it but it will only execute if you move your cursor off the Quick-Play button. Anyone else seeing this?

[jazzrack]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Hey guys,


• Added an option to the league standing screen to select a date for the displayed standings, enabling users to examine past standings

winning!!

dunka

[Marinersfan51]

This is awesome, however two minor things I would like to see are games played as a DH in the fielding stats and a scrollbar on the message/email screen so I can actually read all of the story.

[OGBL Commish]

nevermind

[da commish]

Did the financials get fixed (i.e., so the #s in the current financial overview add up correctly)?

Whether or not they are fixed, thanks Markus and crew for your continued excellent customer service in putting out this latest patch.

[Cras]

fix a bug, create a new one. So seems the theme of this game this year.

with the standings page, show leaderboards checked,

press the checkmark to advance a day, and the standings page does not progress with me, like it did in the past. It is clearly an issue with this "date of standings" feature that was added.

Please fix this. This is how I play the game, how I have always played the game, and it now not working anymore is extremly irritating, among other things......

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by Cras

fix a bug, create a new one. So seems the theme of this game this year.

with the standings page, show leaderboards checked,

press the checkmark to advance a day, and the standings page does not progress with me, like it did in the past. It is clearly an issue with this "date of standings" feature that was added.

Please fix this. This is how I play the game, how I have always played the game, and it now not working anymore is extremly irritating, among other things......

On a lighter side, is it my imagination or have you noticed a tweaking of the font in this patch, for the better? I put back the OOTP13 font and, frankly, the game is looking good so far (I haven't been everywhere in it yet, though). What's your impression on this, if any?

EDIT: Hmmm. Correction: I put back the ORIGINAL OOTP13 font, as I merely patched this time, not fully reinstall. Probably the same thing, but I don't know.

EDIT 2: I'm wearing the same glasses as always.

[Cras]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

On a lighter side, is it my imagination or have you noticed a tweaking of the font in this patch, for the better? I put back the OOTP13 font and, frankly, the game is looking good so far (I haven't been everywhere in it yet, though). What's your impression on this, if any?

EDIT: Hmmm. Correction: I put back the ORIGINAL OOTP13 font, as I merely patched this time, not fully reinstall. Probably the same thing, but I don't know.

EDIT 2: I'm wearing the same glasses as always.

....it might be. I am not sure.

Granted I have not been playing this game at all, waiting for this latest patch to fix the coaches contract extension issue, so it may just be absence returning the suit to form sort of thing....

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Wolf, I expect you to "howl" over this! With delight!

I am a very thankful wolf.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by endgame

Hard to howl when you're gobbling up the prey you've been seeking.

It's VERY tasty.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by gentlemanofleisure

Runners from third getting thrown out at home after a wild pitch please!!

From the official rules:

"10.13 Wild Pitches And Passed Balls
A wild pitch is defined in Rule 2.00 (Wild Pitch). A passed ball is a statistic charged against a catcher whose action has caused a runner or runners to advance, as set forth in this Rule 10.13.
(a) The official scorer shall charge a pitcher with a wild pitch when a legally delivered ball is so high, so wide or so low that the catcher does not stop and control the ball by ordinary effort, thereby permitting a runner or runners to advance. The official scorer shall charge a pitcher with a wild pitch when a legally delivered ball touches the ground or home plate before reaching the catcher and is not handled by the catcher, thereby permitting a runner or runners to advance. When the third strike is a wild pitch, permitting the batter to reach first base, the official scorer shall score a strikeout and a wild pitch.
(b) The official scorer shall charge a catcher with a passed ball when the catcher fails to hold or to control a legally pitched ball that should have been held or controlled with ordinary effort, thereby permitting a runner or runners to advance. When the third strike is a passed ball, permitting the batter to reach first base, the official scorer shall score a strikeout and a passed ball.

Rule 10.13 Comment: The official scorer shall not charge a wild pitch or passed ball if the defensive team makes an out before any runners advance. For example, if a pitch touches the ground and eludes the catcher with a runner on first base, but the catcher recovers the ball and throws to second base in time to retire the runner, the official scorer shall not charge the pitcher with a wild pitch. The official scorer shall credit the advancement of any other runner on the play as a fielder’s choice. If a catcher drops a pitch, for example, with a runner on first base, but the catcher recovers the ball and throws to second base in time to retire the runner, the official scorer shall not charge the catcher with a passed ball. The official scorer shall credit the advancement of any other runner on the play as a fielder’s choice. See Rules 10.07(a), 10.12(e) and 10.12(f) for additional scoring rules relating to wild pitches and passed balls."

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

On a lighter side, is it my imagination or have you noticed a tweaking of the font in this patch, for the better? I put back the OOTP13 font and, frankly, the game is looking good so far (I haven't been everywhere in it yet, though). What's your impression on this, if any?

EDIT: Hmmm. Correction: I put back the ORIGINAL OOTP13 font, as I merely patched this time, not fully reinstall. Probably the same thing, but I don't know.

EDIT 2: I'm wearing the same glasses as always.

The font does not get overwritten when applying just the patch.

Mine is still the v12 font and never has a patch changed it.

[The Wolf]

10.07 Stolen Bases And Caught Stealing
The official scorer shall credit a stolen base to a runner whenever the runner advances one base unaided by a hit, a putout, an error, a force-out, a fielder's choice, a passed ball, a wild pitch or a balk, subject to the following:
(a) When a runner starts for the next base before the pitcher delivers the ball and the pitch results in what ordinarily is scored a wild pitch or passed ball, the official scorer shall credit the runner with a stolen base and shall not charge the misplay, unless, as a result of the misplay, the stealing runner advances an extra base, or another runner also advances, in which case the official scorer shall score the wild pitch or passed ball as well as the stolen base.
(b) When a runner is attempting to steal, and the catcher, after receiving the pitch, makes a wild throw trying to prevent the stolen base, the official scorer shall credit the runner with a stolen base. The official scorer shall not charge an error unless the wild throw permits the stealing runner to advance one or more extra bases, or permits another runner to advance, in which case the official scorer shall credit the runner with the stolen base and charge one error to the catcher.
(c) When a runner, attempting to steal, or after being picked off base, evades being put out in a run-down play and advances to the next base without the aid of an error, the official scorer shall credit the runner with a stolen base. If another runner also advances on the play, the official scorer shall credit both runners with stolen bases. If a runner advances while another runner, attempting to steal, evades being put out in a run-down play and returns safely, without the aid of an error, to the base he originally occupied, the official scorer shall credit a stolen base to the runner who advances.
(d) When a double- or triple-steal is attempted and one runner is thrown out before reaching and holding the base such runner is attempting to steal, no other runner shall be credited with a stolen base.
(e) When a runner is tagged out after oversliding a base, while attempting either to return to that base or to advance to the next base, the official scorer shall not credit such runner with a stolen base.
(f) When in the scorer's judgment a runner attempting to steal is safe because of a muffed throw, the official scorer shall not credit a stolen base. The official scorer shall credit an assist to the fielder who made the throw, charge an error to the fielder who muffed the throw and charge the runner with "caught stealing."
(g) The official scorer shall not score a stolen base when a runner advances solely because of the defensive team's indifference to the runner’s advance. The official scorer shall score such a play as a fielder's choice.
Rule 10.07(g) Comment: The scorer shall consider, in judging whether the defensive team has been indifferent to a runner’s advance, the totality of the circumstances, including the inning and score of the game, whether the defensive team had held the runner on base, whether the pitcher had made any pickoff attempts on that runner before the runner’s advance, whether the fielder ordinarily expected to cover the base to which the runner advanced made a move to cover such base, whether the defensive team had a legitimate strategic motive to not contest the runner’s advance or whether the defensive team might be trying impermissibly to deny the runner credit for a stolen base. For example, with runners on first and third bases, the official scorer should ordinarily credit a stolen base when the runner on first advances to second, if, in the scorer’s judgment, the defensive team had a legitimate strategic motive—namely, preventing the runner on third base from scoring on the throw to second base—not to contest the runner’s advance to second base. The official scorer may conclude that the defensive team is impermissibly trying to deny a runner credit for a stolen base if, for example, the defensive team fails to defend the advance of a runner approaching a league or career record or a league statistical title.
(h) The official scorer shall charge a runner as "caught stealing" if such runner is put out, or would have been put out by errorless play, when such runner
(1) tries to steal;
(2) is picked off a base and tries to advance (any move toward the next base shall be considered an attempt to advance); or
(3) overslides while stealing.
Rule 10.07(h) Comment: In those instances where a pitched ball eludes the catcher and the runner is put out trying to advance, the official scorer shall not charge any “caught stealing.” The official scorer shall not charge any caught stealing when a runner is awarded a base due to obstruction or when a runner is called out due to interference by the batter. The official scorer shall not charge a runner with a caught stealing if such runner would not have been credited with a stolen base had such runner been safe (for example, when a catcher throws the runner out after such runner tries to advance after a ball that had eluded the catcher on a pitch).

[madJ]

Still waiting for scouting reports to get stacked so we don't have to wait for one report to demand the next one. But nice additions in this patch though.

[Alistair]

Nice work. Will this apply to my current game, or will I have to start a new one to see these changes?

Also while I'm here, can anyone tell me if it's possible to:

a) View the upcoming batters when I am changing my pitcher? If for example I have just hit for my pitcher and the next inning starts, I am unable to leave my substitutions screen until I insert a new pitcher. You can see the NEXT batter in the bottom right, but is there any way I can see my opponent's lineup so I know whether to use a lefty or a righty beyond the next batter?

b) Can I change my lineup on a day to day basis before each game rather than going to my lineups screen? For instance, if I want to give my catcher the day off, is there a way I can drag & drop to make this switch just before I start the game rather than having to go and do it in the overall lineups screen?

[Cinnamon J. Scudworth]

Originally Posted by Alistair

b) Can I change my lineup on a day to day basis before each game rather than going to my lineups screen? For instance, if I want to give my catcher the day off, is there a way I can drag & drop to make this switch just before I start the game rather than having to go and do it in the overall lineups screen?

You can make any line up changes you want on the game set up screen before you click "start game."

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

The font does not get overwritten when applying just the patch.

Mine is still the v12 font and never has a patch changed it.

Yes, but they may have tweaked the GUI in the way screens and windows display the font. I'm having too much fun to bother to uninstall this build and reinstall the previous one to take comparative screen shots. I will just say a quiet "thank you" if my supposition is correct.

[Orcin]

Originally Posted by Cras

fix a bug, create a new one. So seems the theme of this game this year.

with the standings page, show leaderboards checked,

press the checkmark to advance a day, and the standings page does not progress with me, like it did in the past. It is clearly an issue with this "date of standings" feature that was added.

Please fix this. This is how I play the game, how I have always played the game, and it now not working anymore is extremly irritating, among other things......

So I guess this is another update that I need to pass on, waiting for version 6 to fix the version 5 bug(s)?

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by Orcin

So I guess this is another update that I need to pass on, waiting for version 6 to fix the version 5 bug(s)?

No. I'd say this patch fixes more bugs than it introduces (this time) and the new features are quite welcome.