Possibility of Random Debut Feature? - Page 2

oman19 · 02-26-2012, 02:36 AM

Gotta say I NEVER NEVER play historical and this would make me change that. Such an interesting concept.

Don't know what I would do with myself with 2 leagues going at once lol.

Lee · 02-26-2012, 10:58 AM

Would love this option as well, I play this way a lot.

sabby787 · 02-28-2012, 11:10 AM

This sounds amazingly fun. Never thought to try this but I'd certainly love to if it was easily built in

OBSL Commish · 03-02-2012, 04:06 PM

I would love to see this as a feature as well. I have been toying with the idea of adding an offseason historical league to my regular online league as a way of making the offseason go by faster and not be as boring. This feature would definitely help!

ShaneCarson · 03-02-2012, 06:18 PM

Well Markus?

rogmax11 · 03-03-2012, 12:35 PM

And just to be clear about the proposed feature: what I'm hoping for already exists in part, since we can import individual players at will from any season. Just expand the feature to pull from any draft class, and perhaps a randomizer would be a good option as well. There may or may not be normalization issues to attend to, but the enormous expansion of replayability would be worth it imho. Perhaps this feature, and future ones, could be marketed like apps, purchaseable in addition to the core game. I sure as hell would pay for it.

brewertoby · 03-03-2012, 07:57 PM

Holy Crap!!!!

This is an AWESOME idea...how in the world are you doing this in the older games...I desperately want to do this now!!!

ShaneCarson · 03-04-2012, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewertoby

Holy Crap!!!!

This is an AWESOME idea...how in the world are you doing this in the older games...I desperately want to do this now!!!

It's a pain in the rear to do it now. I think someone has a random debut database you can download but it's going to be the same every time since it's just one pre-determined set.

Royals · 03-04-2012, 06:19 AM

This would be an incredible addition to the game. I have bought every version since V3. I did not play the game much last year. The random debut would make this a definite must play for me this year.

Royals

brewertoby · 03-04-2012, 10:06 AM

Here's something that I picture if this existed in the game...

I enjoy playing fictional leagues that have a touch of historical in them. I would love the ability to set up a fictional league and at every amateur draft tell it to include X amount of random historical players (from their debut age) and have the rest of the draft be fictional players. This could continue until the entire database of historical players got used up.

The possibilites seem endless. I desperately want this feature now.

Layton is my Homeboy · 03-04-2012, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaneCarson

It's a pain in the rear to do it now. I think someone has a random debut database you can download but it's going to be the same every time since it's just one pre-determined set.

It probably wouldn't be too hard to do a web-based app that would serve up a new random DB for download every time you visit the site (my only concern would be memory usage during the generation cycle). Maybe I'll look into this when I have some time.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

ShaneCarson · 03-04-2012, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Layton is my Homeboy

It probably wouldn't be too hard to do a web-based app that would serve up a new random DB for download every time you visit the site (my only concern would be memory usage during the generation cycle). Maybe I'll look into this when I have some time.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That'd be awesome. Here is my issue with random debut databases as they are now though...

My favorite way to play is a fictional league with a random debut of real players. My league usually starts off small, 12 to 16 teams, and I expand as I see fit. However, when expanding, the databases are already created for the amount of teams I began my league with.

It's my hope that if this feature made it into the game at some point, it'd take this into consideration. If there was a way to pick the players when revealing the draft pool and basing it on the amount of teams in the league and essentially crossing off players that were already used so as not to double up on them.

kev24fan · 03-04-2012, 02:22 PM

I only play historically and a random debut would be a plus for me.

GoMariners11 · 03-06-2012, 08:47 PM

I've bought version 4,5,6, 2007 & 10...I'm not planning on buying this year's version but if a random debut feature was introduced AND it worked properly, I would definitely buy this year's version.

Ideally, the same options that are available during historical play would also be available through a random database... assuming the program could be written to recalculate a player's ratings based on how many years the player has played instead of just going by what year it is...

For example, Babe Ruth's '26-'29 seasons would correspond with years 7-10 (I didn't look it up, just guessing at the actual years) of his career even if he didn't debut until 1970.

lordchaos · 03-06-2012, 10:26 PM

Random debut would be an excellent addition to this game!

elmerlee · 03-17-2012, 06:38 PM

So is there any info as to chances of this being added?

Markus Heinsohn · 03-25-2012, 05:58 AM

Not sure if you guys noticed, but here is how it will work in OOTP 13:

When creating a historical league, you have now the option to either have the rosters a) as in real life or b) filled with players randomly picked out of the db. With option b) it would be clever to run an inaugural draft, but it's not needed. However, this may result in a few really bad/great teams and is not very balanced.

The same option is available for the amateur draft pool, it's either real or randomly picked with players of all eras.

Hope you like it

Royals · 03-25-2012, 06:38 AM

THANK YOU, Markus. This is the one thing I have always wanted in the game.

Royals

McMousey · 03-25-2012, 08:48 AM

This sounds amazingly fun. There's so many nice changes and additions to 13, I'm psyched!

95Marinerschangedmylife · 03-25-2012, 06:23 PM

It's amazing how many different types of playstyles you cater to Markus. I had a plan of how I was going to setup my new 13 league but now I must reconsider. Thanks for listening to the community and giving us an amazing game.

02-26-2012, 02:36 AM	#21
oman19 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Metro Detroit Area Posts: 1,343	Gotta say I NEVER NEVER play historical and this would make me change that. Such an interesting concept. Don't know what I would do with myself with 2 leagues going at once lol. __________________ GENERATION 10: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment. My OOTP wishlist: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...-wishlist.html

03-03-2012, 07:57 PM	#27
brewertoby Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: CC Texas Posts: 122	Holy Crap!!!! This is an AWESOME idea...how in the world are you doing this in the older games...I desperately want to do this now!!! __________________ Any time OOTP makes an AI mistake, I will just imagine that Ned Yost was coaching the other team.

03-04-2012, 06:19 AM	#29
Royals Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 192	Random Debut This would be an incredible addition to the game. I have bought every version since V3. I did not play the game much last year. The random debut would make this a definite must play for me this year. Royals

03-04-2012, 10:06 AM	#30
brewertoby Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: CC Texas Posts: 122	Here's something that I picture if this existed in the game... I enjoy playing fictional leagues that have a touch of historical in them. I would love the ability to set up a fictional league and at every amateur draft tell it to include X amount of random historical players (from their debut age) and have the rest of the draft be fictional players. This could continue until the entire database of historical players got used up. The possibilites seem endless. I desperately want this feature now. __________________ Any time OOTP makes an AI mistake, I will just imagine that Ned Yost was coaching the other team.

03-25-2012, 05:58 AM	#37
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,806	Not sure if you guys noticed, but here is how it will work in OOTP 13: When creating a historical league, you have now the option to either have the rosters a) as in real life or b) filled with players randomly picked out of the db. With option b) it would be clever to run an inaugural draft, but it's not needed. However, this may result in a few really bad/great teams and is not very balanced. The same option is available for the amateur draft pool, it's either real or randomly picked with players of all eras. Hope you like it __________________ Buy Out of the Park Baseball 25 now! Download OOTP Go 25 for iOS Download OOTP Go 25 for Android

02-26-2012, 10:58 AM	#22
Lee Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Scorched Desert Posts: 4,651	Would love this option as well, I play this way a lot.

02-28-2012, 11:10 AM	#23
sabby787 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Arizona Posts: 31 Blog Entries: 3	This sounds amazingly fun. Never thought to try this but I'd certainly love to if it was easily built in

03-02-2012, 04:06 PM	#24
OBSL Commish All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 946	I would love to see this as a feature as well. I have been toying with the idea of adding an offseason historical league to my regular online league as a way of making the offseason go by faster and not be as boring. This feature would definitely help!

03-02-2012, 06:18 PM	#25
ShaneCarson All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 728	Well Markus?

03-03-2012, 12:35 PM	#26
rogmax11 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,320	And just to be clear about the proposed feature: what I'm hoping for already exists in part, since we can import individual players at will from any season. Just expand the feature to pull from any draft class, and perhaps a randomizer would be a good option as well. There may or may not be normalization issues to attend to, but the enormous expansion of replayability would be worth it imho. Perhaps this feature, and future ones, could be marketed like apps, purchaseable in addition to the core game. I sure as hell would pay for it.

03-04-2012, 02:22 PM	#33
kev24fan Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 494	I only play historically and a random debut would be a plus for me.

03-06-2012, 08:47 PM	#34
GoMariners11 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1	I've bought version 4,5,6, 2007 & 10...I'm not planning on buying this year's version but if a random debut feature was introduced AND it worked properly, I would definitely buy this year's version. Ideally, the same options that are available during historical play would also be available through a random database... assuming the program could be written to recalculate a player's ratings based on how many years the player has played instead of just going by what year it is... For example, Babe Ruth's '26-'29 seasons would correspond with years 7-10 (I didn't look it up, just guessing at the actual years) of his career even if he didn't debut until 1970.

03-06-2012, 10:26 PM	#35
lordchaos Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 26	Random debut would be an excellent addition to this game!

03-17-2012, 06:38 PM	#36
elmerlee Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 215	So is there any info as to chances of this being added?

03-25-2012, 06:38 AM	#38
Royals Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 192	Thank you!! THANK YOU, Markus. This is the one thing I have always wanted in the game. Royals

03-25-2012, 08:48 AM	#39
McMousey Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Long Island Posts: 72	This sounds amazingly fun. There's so many nice changes and additions to 13, I'm psyched!

03-25-2012, 06:23 PM	#40
95Marinerschangedmylife Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 182	It's amazing how many different types of playstyles you cater to Markus. I had a plan of how I was going to setup my new 13 league but now I must reconsider. Thanks for listening to the community and giving us an amazing game.