The official World Cup 2010 thread... - Page 2

Dargone · 05-11-2010, 06:58 PM

Does anyone here think the US had even a slight chance of doing really, really well. Or am I just blinded by my partisan support for the US squad?

mlyons · 05-11-2010, 07:24 PM

If they don't advance out of the group stage, it'll be a disaster. There's no earthly reason the US shouldn't do better than Algeria and Slovenia.

mlyons · 05-11-2010, 07:30 PM

dola

Charlie Davies is officially not going, though. That hurts. I was holding out the faint hope that he'd be fit in time.

thehatfield · 05-14-2010, 01:43 PM

Anyone else near Princeton, NJ and want to stalk the USMNT during training? They start Monday!

TGH-Adfabre · 05-15-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargone

Does anyone here think the US had even a slight chance of doing really, really well. Or am I just blinded by my partisan support for the US squad?

I am rooting for the U.S. because I will L.M.A.O. if all these countries who live and die by soccer

are beaten by us.
Global resentment will be at its all time high.
The idea of it makes me a little misty.

Melo · 05-17-2010, 04:05 PM

A friend of mine is a subcontractor for ESPN. He left today for South Africa and won't be back until it's all over.

rudel.dietrich · 05-17-2010, 04:51 PM

I read that ESPN is sinking 22x the marketing and advertising into this vs the 2006 Cup. That is nice to hear.

If the US does not advance out of the group stage it will be seen as a disaster but will not really be one. Algeria and Slovenia are good teams and will be hard to break down defensively as they will be sitting with 9 men behind the ball and mostly counter attacking. The US is still a longshot to outright beat the English which means either they take 1 point from the game or none. That means they have to get points from the remaining two games and win at least one. If they lose to England then they need at least four points and goal difference to advance, which will not be easy. The best thing that could happen to the US is that Algeria and Slovenia tie one another and only take a single point from their game together. That would make things much easier.

mikev · 05-17-2010, 06:11 PM

I think they could steal a victory from England.

They did it to Spain, and had Brazil within 15 minutes of beating them before falling apart.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 05-17-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

If the US does not advance out of the group stage it will be seen as a disaster but will not really be one.

Well sure, but the group draw for the U.S. (and England!) was about as advantageous as they could reasonably hope for. The U.S. could fall in the group stages, but at the same time it's reasonable to hope for them to make the final 8 as they did in 2002.

Cryomaniac · 05-17-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

The US is still a longshot to outright beat the English which means either they take 1 point from the game or none.

It will be seen as a disaster for England if they don't win all of their group games.

rudel.dietrich · 05-17-2010, 08:17 PM

Is Henry going to play in New York or not?

mlyons · 05-19-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

Is Henry going to play in New York or not?

With David Villa moving to Barcelona, Henry's definitely moving somewhere.

His Own Bad Self · 05-20-2010, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TGH-Adfabre

I am rooting for the U.S. because I will L.M.A.O. if all these countries who live and die by soccer

are beaten by us.
Global resentment will be at its all time high.
The idea of it makes me a little misty.

I do actually wonder about this. If we were ever actually good at the world's game, would other countries just hate us even more? Sometimes I'm glad we're not that good at soccer because it gives us something in which we're underdogs.

I want to see us win a World Cup, certainly, but I would always trade success in the World Cup for, say, success at the FIBA World Championship.

jbergey22 · 05-21-2010, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by His Own Bad Self

I do actually wonder about this. If we were ever actually good at the world's game, would other countries just hate us even more? Sometimes I'm glad we're not that good at soccer because it gives us something in which we're underdogs.

I want to see us win a World Cup, certainly, but I would always trade success in the World Cup for, say, success at the FIBA World Championship.

Yeah I really doubt any of us will ever see the USA win a World Cup. If we didnt play in the Concacaf we wouldnt even qualify for most World Cups.

His Own Bad Self · 05-21-2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Yeah I really doubt any of us will ever see the USA win a World Cup. If we didnt play in the Concacaf we wouldnt even qualify for most World Cups.

Excellent point.

Jordan · 05-21-2010, 02:00 AM

Oh wow. I'm a big Barca mark and I didn't know we signed him. That just locked up another title, in my opinion.

I'm calling a 1-1 USA England match

rudel.dietrich · 05-21-2010, 02:46 AM

I like the Villa news today as a report comes out that La Liga is in debt 3.5 billion Euros

Maybe they are looking to start their own nation.

ry1220 · 05-28-2010, 10:41 PM

I scored a goal in the FIFA™ World Cup final - ESPN Soccernet

Neat stuff, may only be US region, so sorry if our International members cannot view it.

bababui · 05-28-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Yeah I really doubt any of us will ever see the USA win a World Cup. If we didnt play in the Concacaf we wouldnt even qualify for most World Cups.

Absolutely not true. The Euro qualifying groups usually arent tough at all. Slovenia has qualified for two of the last three WC's for example. After the top tier of clubs, there is a big drop off.

Vinny P. · 05-29-2010, 12:53 AM

GO ITALY!!

I wanna see a repeat!!

05-11-2010, 06:58 PM	#21
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Does anyone here think the US had even a slight chance of doing really, really well. Or am I just blinded by my partisan support for the US squad? __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

05-11-2010, 07:24 PM	#22
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05-11-2010, 07:30 PM	#23
mlyons Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,725	dola Charlie Davies is officially not going, though. That hurts. I was holding out the faint hope that he'd be fit in time. __________________ Things can always be worse.

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05-17-2010, 06:11 PM	#28
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05-17-2010, 04:05 PM	#26
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05-17-2010, 04:51 PM	#27
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	I read that ESPN is sinking 22x the marketing and advertising into this vs the 2006 Cup. That is nice to hear. If the US does not advance out of the group stage it will be seen as a disaster but will not really be one. Algeria and Slovenia are good teams and will be hard to break down defensively as they will be sitting with 9 men behind the ball and mostly counter attacking. The US is still a longshot to outright beat the English which means either they take 1 point from the game or none. That means they have to get points from the remaining two games and win at least one. If they lose to England then they need at least four points and goal difference to advance, which will not be easy. The best thing that could happen to the US is that Algeria and Slovenia tie one another and only take a single point from their game together. That would make things much easier.

05-17-2010, 08:17 PM	#31
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	Is Henry going to play in New York or not?

05-21-2010, 02:00 AM	#36
Jordan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chi Suburbs now... Posts: 2,011	Oh wow. I'm a big Barca mark and I didn't know we signed him. That just locked up another title, in my opinion. I'm calling a 1-1 USA England match

05-21-2010, 02:46 AM	#37
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	I like the Villa news today as a report comes out that La Liga is in debt 3.5 billion Euros Maybe they are looking to start their own nation.

05-28-2010, 10:41 PM	#38
ry1220 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 818	I scored a goal in the FIFA™ World Cup final - ESPN Soccernet Neat stuff, may only be US region, so sorry if our International members cannot view it.

05-29-2010, 12:53 AM	#40
Vinny P. Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,518 Infractions: 0/1 (4)	GO ITALY!! I wanna see a repeat!!