Calzaghe vs. Kessler - Page 2

Tommysixfingers · 07-12-2007, 02:21 AM

Just came to think about a funny story I read in a swedish newspaper ome years ago.

The story was about an english fellow that had a really hard time letting go of his former girlfriend. He wouldn't let her alone and he talked all kinds of smack about her new boyfriend. He even proposed a fight between the two to decide who would have "the rights" to see the girls.

His former girlfriend than told him that her new boyfriend was none other than reigning boxing champ Joe Calzaghe. The poorminded man pretty much let her go and cancelled all plans of a fight that very moment

Bronx Bomber 15 · 07-15-2007, 07:31 PM

Finally, the fight Kessler and his camp have been pushing for for some time now comes to reality. No disrespect to Calzaghe, but Kessler stops him late IMO.

I feel Kessler has a slight edge being younger, stronger, sharper and obviously has no lack of confidence taking the fight in the U.K. when he very well could have fought just about anyone else in Denmark, or even here in the states on HBO. Once again, this is just my opinion which won't even get you a bus pass

, just based on what I've seen from both fighters.

There is no final deal with HBO from what I understand but negotiations were underway as both camps want the fights shown in the U.S., especially because both fighters are looking to move their careers here.

A huge money fight, last I read 16,000 seats were sold in less than a day. The U.K. fans love their boxing.

I'm a huge fan of Kessler's, and hope he can pull out a convincing win and move on to bigger and better things against quality opposition. No way this is a dull one, I can't wait.

Tosti · 07-18-2007, 08:02 AM

Frank Warren is confident Joe Calzaghe's unification superfight against Mikkel Kessler will set a new world attendance record for an indoor boxing event.

The Millennium Stadium will host the showdown on November 3 with 70,000 tickets available, of which 17,500 have already been sold even though the fight was only confirmed last Wednesday.

Muhammad Ali's rematch against Leon Spinks holds the record with 63,500 descending on the Louisiana Superdome in 1978 to watch 'The Greatest' win the world heavyweight title for a third time.

Promoter Warren said: "Getting Joe and Mikkel together is very expensive.

"Kessler's people wanted the fight in Copenhagen but ultimately money swung it to be held over here. It's always about the money!

"The fact it's happening in Cardiff is a great bonus and we have a major record to break.

"The record for an indoor gate in the sport is 63,500 and I think we'll have more than that at the Millennium Stadium on November 3.

"If that happens it will be the world's biggest indoor boxing event.

"That's what we're aiming for. We've already sold 17,500 tickets which is a tremendous response. Only the Mike Tyson fight sold tickets quicker.

"There should be around 5,000 of Kessler's fans coming over from Denmark. They'll be arriving in their long boats and hopefully they'll be returning with long boats!"

Kessler is arguably Calzaghe's greatest challenge to date with the 28-year-old WBC and WBA super-middleweight champion unbeaten in 39 fights.

But Warren believes the Dane will bring the best out of Calzaghe, whose WBO belt and unblemished record will also be on the line in Cardiff.

"When Joe really wants a fight, it has brought the best out of him," he said.

"There have been a few fights like Chris Eubank, Jeff Lacy, Charles Brewer and Byron Mitchell that Joe was really up for.

"Joe has too much for Kessler. It's a tough fight but Joe is at the top of his game at the moment and is a very hard fighter to beat.

"He has a great chin, can punch and has tremendous hand speed."

Zima · 07-18-2007, 12:21 PM

Joe Calzaghe will win over Kessler at his hometown Cardif

mh2365 · 07-18-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zima

Joe Calzaghe will win over Kessler at his hometown Cardif

Agree with Zima here ... Kessler would have to nearly pitch a shutout to get the decision so he is going to have to KO Joe.

Another thing is that HBO still hasn't signed off on this and as far as I know I have seen nothing from Kessler's camp on this. I wouldn't be surprised to see Calzaghe-Hopkins or Calzaghe-Taylor before we see this fight.

mh2365 · 10-28-2007, 10:15 PM

Okay if the fight comes off ... still expecting Calzaghe to come up with a broken hand this week LOL ... if Kessler wins can we please not use the Joe was post-prime excuse?

Joe's fanboys are already starting to throw this excuse out over on Eastside boxing.

Tommysixfingers · 10-29-2007, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

Okay if the fight comes off ... still expecting Calzaghe to come up with a broken hand this week LOL ... if Kessler wins can we please not use the Joe was post-prime excuse?

Joe's fanboys are already starting to throw this excuse out over on Eastside boxing.

You are the moderator here Mike. Just lock the thread if anyone comes with any sorts of excuses when Kessler wins

mh2365 · 10-29-2007, 09:11 AM

LOL ... well I can't do that. I just found it funny that the fight still hasn't happened and Joe fans are making excuses in case they lose. Not here on this board though.

meade95 · 10-29-2007, 03:12 PM

Have to go with Joe C on this one (though I'm not that big a fan of his). I see Joe C by clear Dec or late TKO....

mh2365 · 10-29-2007, 04:10 PM

I think it is too close to call .. One thing I do know is Kessler will need to win 9 rounds to eek out a close split decision in Joe's backyard.

a87star · 10-29-2007, 04:53 PM

I would love to see Kessler win in Calzaghe's backyard but i'll take Joe by wide UD.

VaughanDesign · 10-29-2007, 05:55 PM

I like Calzaghe by TKO9.

I also like JM Marquez by a wide decision Saturday.

Mad Bomber · 10-31-2007, 11:03 AM

I'll take Kessler by a late round TKO perhaps the 9th or 10th round, and I agree with the above Juan Manuel Marquez prediction.

Mr Big · 10-31-2007, 11:27 AM

I like Calzaghe, but I have to go with Kessler TKO 11.

AZZA · 11-02-2007, 05:23 AM

what is it with you guys kessler would have to box a shut out to get the verdict..... i have been following boxing here for near on 30 years our boxing board and fairness should not be questioned. germany and italy is another matter , what about some of the decisions to come out of vegas in the last couple of years moseley beat delahoya , i dont think so ...... delahoya beat strum idont think so . money talks , yet i cant think of a bad decision over here of the top of my head. tut tut or is that used as an excuse for your guys getting beat?
any way it wont matter tommorow cos kessler is going to get knocked out and there aint no ref or judge that can influence that.

Tommysixfingers · 11-02-2007, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AZZA

what is it with you guys kessler would have to box a shut out to get the verdict..... i have been following boxing here for near on 30 years our boxing board and fairness should not be questioned. germany and italy is another matter , what about some of the decisions to come out of vegas in the last couple of years moseley beat delahoya , i dont think so ...... delahoya beat strum idont think so . money talks , yet i cant think of a bad decision over here of the top of my head. tut tut or is that used as an excuse for your guys getting beat?
any way it wont matter tommorow cos kessler is going to get knocked out and there aint no ref or judge that can influence that.

You are probably right mate. Next thing is England bringing home an international football trophy again ( just like they allways will before EVERY WC or EC)

Jokes aside, I take Kessler in 8. I'm just about to buy the fight on PPV.

Cap · 11-02-2007, 07:57 AM

I'm calling for a TKO win for Calzaghe. Kessler will attempt to sing his national anthem, will mangle the words and get cold-conked by the fat lady from row 3 aisle 9.

...or Joe wins a decision or even a late round TKO.

Cap (last fight I called correctly was Sharkey-Ruhlin 1)

mh2365 · 11-02-2007, 08:36 AM

For the record Azza I said the same thing when Floyd fought ODLH ... and I was right, Floyd won 9 rounds and barely got the decision.

I stick by the prediction that Kessler will have to completely dominate the fight in order to get a close decision. If Kessler wins 7 rounds, Calzaghe will win by 2 or 3 on all cards. Even though two of the judges are from the states, they were hand picked by Warren. Not to mention judges are too often influenced by the crowd.

I'm rooting for Kessler because he is more likely to come to the states, but I've learned my lesson on picking against Calzaghe.

My official prediction is --- too close to call.

AZZA · 11-02-2007, 02:01 PM

i will report from ringside , in front row opposite cameras . so look out for me big and bald. x

mh2365 · 11-02-2007, 02:54 PM

I'll watch for you azza ... front row big and bald ... sounds like we were seperated at birth

07-15-2007, 07:31 PM	#22
Bronx Bomber 15 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: A house in the wooded mountains Posts: 939	Finally, the fight Kessler and his camp have been pushing for for some time now comes to reality. No disrespect to Calzaghe, but Kessler stops him late IMO. I feel Kessler has a slight edge being younger, stronger, sharper and obviously has no lack of confidence taking the fight in the U.K. when he very well could have fought just about anyone else in Denmark, or even here in the states on HBO. Once again, this is just my opinion which won't even get you a bus pass , just based on what I've seen from both fighters. There is no final deal with HBO from what I understand but negotiations were underway as both camps want the fights shown in the U.S., especially because both fighters are looking to move their careers here. A huge money fight, last I read 16,000 seats were sold in less than a day. The U.K. fans love their boxing. I'm a huge fan of Kessler's, and hope he can pull out a convincing win and move on to bigger and better things against quality opposition. No way this is a dull one, I can't wait. __________________ Fightsimsplus.com Fightsims Facebook Page Fightsims on X

07-18-2007, 08:02 AM	#23
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Article on the Sportinglife website Frank Warren is confident Joe Calzaghe's unification superfight against Mikkel Kessler will set a new world attendance record for an indoor boxing event. The Millennium Stadium will host the showdown on November 3 with 70,000 tickets available, of which 17,500 have already been sold even though the fight was only confirmed last Wednesday. Muhammad Ali's rematch against Leon Spinks holds the record with 63,500 descending on the Louisiana Superdome in 1978 to watch 'The Greatest' win the world heavyweight title for a third time. Promoter Warren said: "Getting Joe and Mikkel together is very expensive. "Kessler's people wanted the fight in Copenhagen but ultimately money swung it to be held over here. It's always about the money! "The fact it's happening in Cardiff is a great bonus and we have a major record to break. "The record for an indoor gate in the sport is 63,500 and I think we'll have more than that at the Millennium Stadium on November 3. "If that happens it will be the world's biggest indoor boxing event. "That's what we're aiming for. We've already sold 17,500 tickets which is a tremendous response. Only the Mike Tyson fight sold tickets quicker. "There should be around 5,000 of Kessler's fans coming over from Denmark. They'll be arriving in their long boats and hopefully they'll be returning with long boats!" Kessler is arguably Calzaghe's greatest challenge to date with the 28-year-old WBC and WBA super-middleweight champion unbeaten in 39 fights. But Warren believes the Dane will bring the best out of Calzaghe, whose WBO belt and unblemished record will also be on the line in Cardiff. "When Joe really wants a fight, it has brought the best out of him," he said. "There have been a few fights like Chris Eubank, Jeff Lacy, Charles Brewer and Byron Mitchell that Joe was really up for. "Joe has too much for Kessler. It's a tough fight but Joe is at the top of his game at the moment and is a very hard fighter to beat. "He has a great chin, can punch and has tremendous hand speed."

10-31-2007, 11:03 AM	#33
Mad Bomber All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,566	I'll take Kessler by a late round TKO perhaps the 9th or 10th round, and I agree with the above Juan Manuel Marquez prediction. __________________ Keep on Punchin' There are three things that go on a fighter, first your reflexes go, then your chin goes, and then your friends go. Willie Pep

10-31-2007, 11:27 AM	#34
Mr Big All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,238	I like Calzaghe, but I have to go with Kessler TKO 11. __________________ The M.O.B. Isaiah 54:17

11-02-2007, 05:23 AM	#35
AZZA Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: london Posts: 468	paranoia what is it with you guys kessler would have to box a shut out to get the verdict..... i have been following boxing here for near on 30 years our boxing board and fairness should not be questioned. germany and italy is another matter , what about some of the decisions to come out of vegas in the last couple of years moseley beat delahoya , i dont think so ...... delahoya beat strum idont think so . money talks , yet i cant think of a bad decision over here of the top of my head. tut tut or is that used as an excuse for your guys getting beat? any way it wont matter tommorow cos kessler is going to get knocked out and there aint no ref or judge that can influence that.

07-12-2007, 02:21 AM	#21
Tommysixfingers All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,500	Just came to think about a funny story I read in a swedish newspaper ome years ago. The story was about an english fellow that had a really hard time letting go of his former girlfriend. He wouldn't let her alone and he talked all kinds of smack about her new boyfriend. He even proposed a fight between the two to decide who would have "the rights" to see the girls. His former girlfriend than told him that her new boyfriend was none other than reigning boxing champ Joe Calzaghe. The poorminded man pretty much let her go and cancelled all plans of a fight that very moment

07-18-2007, 12:21 PM	#24
Zima Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Moscow,Russia Posts: 154	Joe Calzaghe will win over Kessler at his hometown Cardif

10-28-2007, 10:15 PM	#26
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Okay if the fight comes off ... still expecting Calzaghe to come up with a broken hand this week LOL ... if Kessler wins can we please not use the Joe was post-prime excuse? Joe's fanboys are already starting to throw this excuse out over on Eastside boxing.

10-29-2007, 09:11 AM	#28
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	LOL ... well I can't do that. I just found it funny that the fight still hasn't happened and Joe fans are making excuses in case they lose. Not here on this board though.

10-29-2007, 03:12 PM	#29
meade95 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,095	Have to go with Joe C on this one (though I'm not that big a fan of his). I see Joe C by clear Dec or late TKO....

10-29-2007, 04:10 PM	#30
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I think it is too close to call .. One thing I do know is Kessler will need to win 9 rounds to eek out a close split decision in Joe's backyard.

10-29-2007, 04:53 PM	#31
a87star Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 4,850	I would love to see Kessler win in Calzaghe's backyard but i'll take Joe by wide UD.

10-29-2007, 05:55 PM	#32
VaughanDesign Minors (Single A) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 87	I like Calzaghe by TKO9. I also like JM Marquez by a wide decision Saturday.

11-02-2007, 07:57 AM	#37
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 7,967	I'm calling for a TKO win for Calzaghe. Kessler will attempt to sing his national anthem, will mangle the words and get cold-conked by the fat lady from row 3 aisle 9. ...or Joe wins a decision or even a late round TKO. Cap (last fight I called correctly was Sharkey-Ruhlin 1) __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

11-02-2007, 08:36 AM	#38
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	For the record Azza I said the same thing when Floyd fought ODLH ... and I was right, Floyd won 9 rounds and barely got the decision. I stick by the prediction that Kessler will have to completely dominate the fight in order to get a close decision. If Kessler wins 7 rounds, Calzaghe will win by 2 or 3 on all cards. Even though two of the judges are from the states, they were hand picked by Warren. Not to mention judges are too often influenced by the crowd. I'm rooting for Kessler because he is more likely to come to the states, but I've learned my lesson on picking against Calzaghe. My official prediction is --- too close to call.

11-02-2007, 02:01 PM	#39
AZZA Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: london Posts: 468	cool i will report from ringside , in front row opposite cameras . so look out for me big and bald. x

11-02-2007, 02:54 PM	#40
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I'll watch for you azza ... front row big and bald ... sounds like we were seperated at birth