Clemens coming back to.... - Page 2

PerfectMisnomer · 05-06-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by redsoxford

Why would we need him in Boston? It would most likely mean sending one of Schilling, Beckett, Dice-K, Wakefield or Lester down to Pawtucket

This is a joke, right?

Presto11 · 05-06-2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PerfectMisnomer

This is a joke, right?

Any of those dudes would TOTALLY clear waivers.

QuestGAV · 05-07-2007, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by redsoxford

Why would we need him in Boston? It would most likely mean sending one of Schilling, Beckett, Dice-K, Wakefield or Lester down to Pawtucket (assuming he wouldn't start until June)

At least the Yankees have space in the rotation for him.

I <3 Jon Lester as much as anybody, but I wouldn't have minded him getting some more seasoning at Pawtuckett if it meant the Sox could put Clemens at the front of the rotation. Because as good as Schilling, Beckett, and Matsuzaka are, Clemens is still better. Oh yeah, and there would be that small matter of the Yankees not having him to plug that gaping hole in their rotation. I think the Red Sox could afford to pass on Clemens (especially at that price) given the strength of their rotation, but it would have been a wonderful sight to see Clemens back in a Red Sox uniform.

Tony M · 05-07-2007, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by QuestGAV

I <3 Jon Lester as much as anybody, but I wouldn't have minded him getting some more seasoning at Pawtuckett if it meant the Sox could put Clemens at the front of the rotation. Because as good as Schilling, Beckett, and Matsuzaka are, Clemens is still better. Oh yeah, and there would be that small matter of the Yankees not having him to plug that gaping hole in their rotation. I think the Red Sox could afford to pass on Clemens (especially at that price) given the strength of their rotation, but it would have been a wonderful sight to see Clemens back in a Red Sox uniform.

It would have been good to see him in a Red Sox uniform but I think that at 45 he's not going to have a good a season as everybody expects, and touch-wood our rotation has been stable (and we all know what happened in 2004 with a stable rotation). $22.8 million (pro-rated) is a lot to pay for him.

AnotherAlias · 05-07-2007, 07:34 AM

I foresee a few hamstring problems coming his way...

QuestGAV · 05-07-2007, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by redsoxford

It would have been good to see him in a Red Sox uniform but I think that at 45 he's not going to have a good a season as everybody expects, and touch-wood our rotation has been stable (and we all know what happened in 2004 with a stable rotation). $22.8 million (pro-rated) is a lot to pay for him.

It's the first week of May! Just because the Sox haven't gotten hit like the Yankees have to this point doesn't mean that rotation depth doesn't eventually become an issue. Like I said, the Sox could afford to pass on this, that doesn't mean it would have been a bad idea for them to make it happen. This is a fantastic move for the Yankees and should make the rest of the season that much more interesting.

yankeesrule · 05-07-2007, 10:40 AM

They were talking on SportCenter that he will also be working a bit with the younger pitchers. If he does, this will be big for a kid like Hughes who many have compared to a younger version of him

CommishJoe · 05-07-2007, 10:50 AM

Maybe he can work with their new strength and conditioning coach too

Claybor · 05-07-2007, 10:51 AM

Being an avid Redsox fan of 22 years now, I am glad he went to the Yankees. This just makes them look that much more desperate and pathetic. (Which they have been for years under the leadership of their sad little owner.)

Operation Shutdown · 05-07-2007, 12:13 PM

I really thought the Pirates had a chance too.

darkhorse · 05-07-2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by redsoxford

Why would we need him in Boston?

Yeah, it would suck adding one of the elite pitchers in the game to the rotation.

Goodsox · 05-07-2007, 12:28 PM

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Being an avid Redsox fan of 22 years now, I am glad he went to the Yankees. This just makes them look that much more desperate and pathetic. (Which they have been for years under the leadership of their sad little owner.)

I'm the farthest thing from a Yankees fan, but that statement makes no sense. Since when does signing one of the top pitchers in the game make your team look desperate and pathetic????? It is a sign of wanting to win, which is great for the team and fans, IMHO.

darkhorse · 05-07-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Claybor

Being an avid Redsox fan of 22 years now, I am glad he went to the Yankees. This just makes them look that much more desperate and pathetic. (Which they have been for years under the leadership of their sad little owner.)

I wish my owner were desperate and pathetic enough to make moves that led to four World Series titles over the last 22 years.

Gastric ReFlux · 05-07-2007, 12:54 PM

Roger Clemens should do some pro bono work.

CommishJoe · 05-07-2007, 01:44 PM

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I wish my owner were desperate and pathetic enough to make moves that led to four World Series titles over the last 22 years.

I just figured he was too "avid" of a fan

The Sox with Clemens in the rotation would have been devistating. Schilling, Beckett, Clemens, Dice-K and Wakefield??? OUCH!

This moves gives the Yankees a rotation of Wang, Mussina, Clemens, Pettitte and a kid which isn't as impressive but is still pretty strong. Granted, he's a stop gap, but the Yanks do have some future pieces which look like they are falling into place (Hughes, Clippard, Rasner and even Igawa if he can get some AAA time to work on his stuff).

darkhorse · 05-07-2007, 02:19 PM

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I just figured he was too "avid" of a fan

I wonder if he's as avid as thomamon?

marc · 05-07-2007, 02:35 PM

Actually, if Roger wants to pad his win totals, he picked the best situation for him to do that.

Luis_Rivera · 05-07-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Claybor

Being an avid Redsox fan of 22 years now, I am glad he went to the Yankees. This just makes them look that much more desperate and pathetic. (Which they have been for years under the leadership of their sad little owner.)

Right. Desperate and pathetic. With probably far and away the best record in the majors over the last 12 seasons, a ****load of division titles, 4 World Series titles, and two other appearances.

marc · 05-07-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Claybor

Being an avid Redsox fan of 22 years now, I am glad he went to the Yankees. This just makes them look that much more desperate and pathetic. (Which they have been for years under the leadership of their sad little owner.)

As desperate and as pathetic as Red Sox management who has been spending at a ridiculous pace themselves just to keep up with the Yankees?

Didn't they just shell out 20+ mil for RIGHT TO NEGOTIATE with Dice-K?? Yeah, thought so.

I guess I just don't understand how this is a desperate move, the guy has probably been the best pitcher in the NL over the last couple seasons why wouldn't they try to sign him??

darkhorse · 05-07-2007, 02:50 PM

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Actually, if Roger wants to pad his win totals, he picked the best situation for him to do that.

Yeah, going 7-6 whilst pitching brilliantly isn't much motivation for returning to Houston and their rinky dink offense.

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