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Old 01-23-2007, 06:45 PM   #21
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I just find it funny all the people who say this kid is being selfish.

I guess these people never thought they deserve a raise at work or perhaps a better position with another company. They've never been dating someone who was completely wrong for them and then broke up with them.

I guess it's just selfish when you're a kid with talent who is going to a Division I football program.
Well, he like everyone else deserves the right to make their own decision. What I dont agree with is that he called out his coach, the program wasted a year developing this kid expecting him to be there for atleast 3 years, and criticized the offense even though they had their best record in a long time. If he left w/o crying and complaining I would certainly understand. The head coach has as career to look forward to as well, I really dont think this whole situation has helped him.
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Old 01-23-2007, 06:46 PM   #22
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DAED, I think the stigma of being selfish is b/c he's basically whining b/c he wasn't handed the starting job on a silver platter.

I believe he IS a spoiled brat who got mad when he was benched. I say good riddance to him. Have fun in Tulsa playing against behemoths like Memphis and UAB.
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Old 01-23-2007, 09:05 PM   #23
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Rumors around that he's actually going to return to Arkansas?? WTF!? It's been said that he's registered for classes.
marc this is true - Mitch Mustain has re-enrolled for classes at Arkansas (paying his way - no longer on scholorship) but not playing on the team.
He will look for another team during the spring, but had to enrolled somewhere in order to stay eligible to transfer to another school.

I live in NW Arkansas and have seen this circus continue..... UGH

Here is a summary (very long) of events this year of "behind the scenes" from another message board in the ongoing Drama.....

Houston Nutt was forced by booster Jim Lindsey to hire Gus Malzahn in order to salvage the 2006 recruiting class, which was on the road to disaster after the '05 season. That season was followed by Nutt's firing of Roy Wittke as QB coach and continued disastrously stupid recruiting of the five Springdale D-IA prospects. Nutt and staff were laughably bad in that process.

The booster made promises, rubber-stamped by an occasionally coherent Frank Broyles, to Malzahn about how much say he would have over the offense. In spring, when one QB was healthy and receivers were scarce, little got done. In August, the plan was for Casey Dick to start at QB with Robert Johnson as backup and Mitch Mustain redshirt. Dick was not healthy enough to practice till September. Then Darren McFadden got hurt in a bar fight and didn't practice from then till the USC game, where he was mostly a decoy.

Nutt demanded that Mustain be inserted in the fourth quarter of the blowout USC loss, and that first possession was the only time we saw Malzahn's offense all season. The Hogs drove down the field in rapid fire and scored a TD.

After USC, Frank Broyles awakened from months of seclusion and ordered Nutt to never allow Robert Johnson to play quarterback again. (This has been a frequent occurrence, Broyles making up Nutt's mind for him.) Nutt named Mustain, not Dick, the starter though he had every intention of starting Dick again as soon as he could. Mustain did not get starter reps in August, and worse, the offense was in constant flux from then on. Nutt asked Malzahn to incorporate plays from Nutt's past playbook, ideas from new QB coach Alex Wood, and additional plays from Mike Markuson and Danny Nutt. The best part about this is all those plays required different sets, calls and protections.

Broyles, who when he coached literally ran the ball 85% of the time, insisted that Nutt push the offense back toward the run. That would have happened anyway with McFadden getting healthy again. In his recent spin, Broyles claims Malzahn was slapped down after giving McFadden just a handful of carries against USC. McFadden was coming off a dislocated toe and hadn't even practiced. He played all he could handle. Broyles is a liar.

In the three games after USC the offense looked scary bad, the defense not much better. Arkansas came so close to losing the Alabama game (surviving only on the ineptitude of the rookie Bama backup kicker), it scared Nutt into dictating a further simplification of the offense away from anything that had been new, back toward the system that had repeatedly caused Broyles to insist Nutt change his coaching staff (from Joe Ferguson to David Lee to Roy Wittke to Wood/Malzahn) in the first place.

That plan surprised the hell out of Auburn, which is always Nutt's target game (you may recall Tommy Tuberville was Broyles's choice to replace Danny Ford, an alumni committee overruled him, and Orville Henry loudly protested in the newspaper). Schedule was relatively easy from there till Thanksgiving.

But the passing game deteriorated due to the running game going back to consuming 70% of practice time. When Mustain threw a pick to open the USC game, Dick came in for good as the starter. He remained even when his performance became abysmal, and Nutt's excuse for not replacing Dick in the LSU game, letting Dick go 3-17 instead, was that he hadn't prepared Mustain to play.

Dick was 10-22 with two picks against Florida, and Mustain didn't throw a pass. Nutt promised Mustain would play against Wisconsin, and this meant he split the 30% of practice time spent on the pass equally between two players--so nobody was prepared to start. Dick was 9-21, Mustain 5-10, and the passing game was Nutt's same old max-protect, no reads, one or two receiver crap that good defenses can handle in their sleep.

In the meantime, Nutt carried on a passive-aggressive campaign attempting to harass Mustain into leaving the team. He asked seniors on the defense harass and belittle Mustain in the locker room, and they did. Nutt's brother asked an acquaintance to send Mustain a now-infamous e-mail, loaded with inside-the-team references, trying to humiliate him and urging him to quit the team.

Why do this to a Parade All-America? Because Mustain represented a different kind of offense, a loyalty to Malzahn, and the promise made to a large part of the 2006 class that the offense would change. It wasn't just Mustain--recruits who came solely because of Malzahn and Wood included FL Damian Williams (decommitted from Florida), SE Marques Wade, FL Carlton Salters (widely recruited from Tallahassee), TE Ben Cleveland (decommitted from Florida) and FL London Crawford (prep All-America). Most of that group will be gone.

After the season, Chris Mortensen learned Nutt was interviewing David Lee about coming back and calling plays. Mort told Malzahn--that's how Malzahn found out Nutt was trying to push him out the door. Malzahn confronted Nutt, who admitted he planned to ask Malzahn to go to the booth, pretending that Lee would be an upgrade.

David Lee coached quarterbacks for Arkansas twice before. Broyles found him another job after the 1988 season, because the wishbone offense looked backwards against good competition. The offense was instantly, dramatically better in 1989. Broyles found him another job (breaking down film for the Cowboys) after the 2002 season, in which the offense was miserable in SEC play and a bad bowl loss. The offense was instantly, dramatically better in 2003. He's a paperweight. A desk ornament.

Malzahn, despite Nutt's increasing strictures, added an element of surprise to the running game that enlivened the offense and created big plays that won games. He also drilled the offensive unit, when he was in charge, to run without mistakes unlike the sloppy efforts before him.

But Nutt ran off Malzahn to complete his reassertion of power after the mini-coup the winter before. Broyles and Nutt are now united in a spin campaign aimed at smearing the reputations of the departed and covering their own asses. Broyles admitted at last week's Dallas Razorback Club meeting that the infamous Springdale parents meeting was about off-the-field issues, despite his previous painting of the parents as concerned only about playing time and how often the Hogs would throw the ball.

You'd think, since the Hogs lost their last three games chiefly on special teams ineptitude, that special teams would be the first priority for change, but as Nutt never knows what to do about special teams, nothing has been done. He has a great thing going, came really close to the pinnacle and might have made it--if he hadn't dismissed the kicker who won August's supposedly open competition because he was a freshman walk-on who would have required a scholarship to play.

Malzahn is much smarter than Nutt and will make a fine college coach elsewhere. Arkansas had its shot, and the fabulously talented McFadden sadly will be a marked man in 2007.

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Old 01-23-2007, 11:27 PM   #24
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Interesting read.

I don't fault this kid one bit for the decision that he's made. I don't think any one of us posting on this forum would sit by and let this happen to them without doing something.
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Old 01-24-2007, 02:48 AM   #25
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Well if this is true Nutt and Broyles are classless clowns. I am sure this story is very two-sided of course and this must be the Mustain-Malzahn side.

Has Nutt been fired? If any of this article is true he should be given a direct ticket out the door.
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Well if this is true Nutt and Broyles are classless clowns. I am sure this story is very two-sided of course and this must be the Mustain-Malzahn side.

Has Nutt been fired? If any of this article is true he should be given a direct ticket out the door.
that post is not an article - but rather a post on a razorback fans message board.
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Old 01-24-2007, 08:49 PM   #27
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the program wasted a year developing this kid expecting him to be there for at least 3 years
Division I coaches and administrators are smarter than to expect that.
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:24 PM   #28
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Division I coaches and administrators are smarter than to expect that.
Its not college BB, there is an age limit before turning pro. Im certain they didnt recruit him expecting him to transfer
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Old 01-25-2007, 12:32 AM   #29
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My biggest issue with the kid is that, at least the way it was portrayed through articles, is they went crying to mommy and daddy that they weren't getting enough PT/touches and mommy and daddy then demanded a sit down with coach and the AD to complain that why weren't they, all of 0 experience coming into the season, being treated as all-americans in the offense
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Good for Mustain. I wish him the best.
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Old 01-25-2007, 12:57 AM   #31
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My biggest issue with the kid is that, at least the way it was portrayed through articles, is they went crying to mommy and daddy that they weren't getting enough PT/touches and mommy and daddy then demanded a sit down with coach and the AD to complain that why weren't they, all of 0 experience coming into the season, being treated as all-americans in the offense

Yep, these kids have been handed everything since mommy and daddy figured out they were going to play college football (probably around age 10-12). There's a lot of blame to go around in this situation and nobody is really "innocent". The coaches/AD knew exactly what they were getting into and the Parents raised a bunch of spoiled brats, I'd say those 2 parties deserve the most blame.
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Its not college BB, there is an age limit before turning pro. Im certain they didnt recruit him expecting him to transfer
Between academic casualties, transfers, injuries, disciplinary issues and probably a myriad of other things I'm forgetting off the top of my head, attrition is really high for D-IA football players. While it is hoped that incoming 17-19 year olds will stick to the preordained college athlete plan of playing four years out of four or five, coaches can't expect it. And they don't.
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Between academic casualties, transfers, injuries, disciplinary issues and probably a myriad of other things I'm forgetting off the top of my head, attrition is really high for D-IA football players. While it is hoped that incoming 17-19 year olds will stick to the preordained college athlete plan of playing four years out of four or five, coaches can't expect it. And they don't.
I was under the assumption you were referring to this particular case. Of course every college plays the numbers game and plans ahead for these types of events. This Mustain case is QUITE different, you dont have a backup plan for a 5* recruit at qb(99% of schools dont have the luxury of being able to prepare for this) They recruited him, brought in his Head Coach, let him have some playing time and I repeat EXPECTING HIM TO BE THERE 3 YEARS ATLEAST. If they didnt expect him to be there 3 years they would have never even went after him, because they would be put in the situation they are currently in.
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I was under the assumption you were referring to this particular case. Of course every college plays the numbers game and plans ahead for these types of events. This Mustain case is QUITE different, you dont have a backup plan for a 5* recruit at qb(99% of schools dont have the luxury of being able to prepare for this) They recruited him, brought in his Head Coach, let him have some playing time and I repeat EXPECTING HIM TO BE THERE 3 YEARS ATLEAST. If they didnt expect him to be there 3 years they would have never even went after him, because they would be put in the situation they are currently in.
It seems the higher ranked the kid, the less likely he is to be around for three years. They recruited him because he was a really good football player, not because they expected him to be around for x years. If they did, they were stupid, just as they should have learned from Kyle Williams, Willie Williams, Kalvin Bailey, etc. etc. insert 50 more names of guys who were the best at their positions coming out of HS in the past few years but aren't playing for the teams they signed with.

It's just a nitpick. People get into the video game mentality of football where they think if a college recruits a kid, that kid is going to be there to play out collegiate career 95% of the time. But that's not the way it goes in the real world. Between injuries, transfers, legal problems, academics, personal reasons, etc. etc., it would be bonehead for a college coach to expect a kid, no matter how good, to even see the field once, much less three or four years. That's why teams recruit 1-2 QB's every year and many try to keep four or five blue-chip HS recruits on the bench although only one can play at a time, and one may start every game for three straight years. You just can't expect that, though.
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Mustain to USC.
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Mustain to USC.
So he is mad over playing time and he goes somewhere he is guarenteed not to get any?
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He'll get his redshirt this year and then have to compete with Mark Sanchez for the starting job in 08. I don't like his odds ALTHOUGH, Sanchez has had some injury problems that don't seem to be going away.

If Sanchez is at full strength there is no way that Mustain beats him out, Sanchez is an absolute monster.
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So he is mad over playing time and he goes somewhere he is guarenteed not to get any?
I think he wants to meet OJ Mayo.
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I think he wants to meet OJ Mayo.

Lil Romeo also will be walking on to the USC hoops team.

This means that there could be times when Mitch Mustain's crazy ass Mom, Snoop D-O double gizzle, Lil Romeo, Master P, and OJ Mayo could all be roaming freely about campus.

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Lil Romeo also will be walking on to the USC hoops team.

This means that there could be times when Mitch Mustain's crazy ass Mom, Snoop D-O double gizzle, Lil Romeo, Master P, and OJ Mayo could all be roaming freely about campus.

Now there's a party waiting to happen.
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