The European football thread - Page 2

The Just · 07-06-2006, 07:20 PM

You have to consider more than the teams who are now defunct, and the one that moved. It's happened in the course of 1996-Present, and MLS is looking into even more teams to add on. There's four to five more cities rumored to have plans in the league expansion, and others considered in league expansion. The considered ones aren't much to worry about, as it's just MLS planning ahead it seems, but the ones who are trying to get in around the 2008-2009 period and are close to doing so are the ones to think about.

It brings up Fallschirmjager's question, if they can support this kind of expansion or not.

Herd Fan · 07-06-2006, 08:25 PM

I realize that foreign teams in leagues happens all the time. But I simply don't see what Toronto brings to MLS other than higher travel bills, a beautiful city, and tax issues for American players.

Herd Fan · 07-06-2006, 08:36 PM

Steering back on topic, what are your favorite European leagues? I follow the Bundesliga, Premiership and Ligue 1 fairly closely. My favorite team is Bayern Munchen (my mother grew up in Bayern) and overall my favorite league is the Bundesliga.

Meth_Lab_for_Rudy · 07-06-2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

I don't see why. It's exactly the same situation as with the Welsh teams. Canada doesn't have a professional league so they have to play somewhere.
Other leagues with the same situation - the A-League in Australia has a New Zealand team, and Liechtenstein teams play in the Swiss Football League system.

Hey! I know stuff too! Monaco play in the French league and Barcelona play in La Liga. La Liga also contains the Basque sides. After the stunning success of picking my national side, France, to win the World Cup, I will continue my run of prognosticatory glory by picking my club side, Fulham, to once again avoid relegation. I also predict that we will continue to have the worst chants of any side in English football. S000000EEEEEE!!!! Onward Moritz Volz who is one of the most underappreciated fullbacks in all of football.

Sdpm100 · 07-07-2006, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Herd Fan

I realize that foreign teams in leagues happens all the time. But I simply don't see what Toronto brings to MLS other than higher travel bills, a beautiful city, and tax issues for American players.

That's fine as a reason. I only had to correct you, because your earlier argument was untrue.

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Originally Posted by Meth_Lab_for_Rudy

Hey! I know stuff too! Monaco play in the French league and Barcelona play in La Liga. La Liga also contains the Basque sides. After the stunning success of picking my national side, France, to win the World Cup, I will continue my run of prognosticatory glory by picking my club side, Fulham, to once again avoid relegation. I also predict that we will continue to have the worst chants of any side in English football. S000000EEEEEE!!!! Onward Moritz Volz who is one of the most underappreciated fullbacks in all of football.

I would argue you know more on occasions, because as you say you picked France to win the World Cup, whereas I ripped them.

Monaco do play in Ligue 1, again in part because they don't have a top flight league in the principality, but as for Barcelona and the Basque clubs playing in Spain, well that's because those regions are still a part of Spain, and their "FA's" are not members of UEFA or FIFA.

boilermaker · 07-07-2006, 03:45 AM

Liverpool ends the drought this year. This is the beginning of a Red Reign.

ukhotstove · 07-07-2006, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by boilermaker

Liverpool ends the drought this year. This is the beginning of a Red Reign.

Me don't think so

bababui · 07-07-2006, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by boilermaker

Liverpool ends the drought this year. This is the beginning of a Red Reign.

Let the myopia begin!!!!

darkhorse · 07-07-2006, 07:09 AM

Fallschirmjager should start an MLS thread so we can yak about the Yourapeeins.

darkhorse · 07-07-2006, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Meth_Lab_for_Rudy

La Liga also contains the Basque sides.

Plural???

What other Basque club is in La Liga besides Athletic of Bilbao? Amazing how decently Athletic does working under their vow of chastity.

Sdpm100 · 07-07-2006, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

Plural???

What other Basque club is in La Liga besides Athletic of Bilbao? Amazing how decently Athletic does working under their vow of chastity.

Real Sociedad play in San Sebastian.

darkhorse · 07-07-2006, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

Real Sociedad play in San Sebastian.

Are they purely Basque like Athletic?

darkhorse · 07-07-2006, 07:20 AM

dola,

One of the quality challenges in Football Manager is trying to achieve continued success with Athletic and their unique player restriction.

Sdpm100 · 07-07-2006, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

Are they purely Basque like Athletic?

Ah, I thought you meant teams in the region of the Basque Country.

They used to be like Athletic and have only Basque players at the club, but no they don't any more.

darkhorse · 07-07-2006, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

They used to be like Athletic and have only Basque players at the club, but no they don't any more.

If more than one big club in Spain tried that route, it would probably become impossible to succeed for either.

Herd Fan · 07-07-2006, 09:07 AM

I have immense respect for Athletic Bilbao. It's impressive when you can make a political stand and still survive in one of the world's toughest leagues. They sometimes take heat for it, but their promotion of Basque players is admirable.

rudel.dietrich · 07-07-2006, 10:12 AM

I really do not see how Chelsea can not win the EPL this year

My early predictions is that they will do the double and win both the EPL and FA cup.
However I do not think they will win the UEFA Champions League. Im thinking a smaller club will suprise everyone and make a deep run if not outright win it.

bababui · 07-07-2006, 11:47 AM

Im looking for the Leigh RMI Railwaymen to win the FA Cup this year and to shock the world.

boilermaker · 07-07-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

I really do not see how Chelsea can not win the EPL this year

This is the last memory of Chelsea I had from last year...

ukhotstove · 07-07-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Im looking for the Leigh RMI Railwaymen to win the FA Cup this year and to shock the world.

Bababui if Leigh get to the FA Cup Final I'll pay your flight, cup final ticket and lodgings for the weekend

07-06-2006, 07:20 PM	#21
The Just Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 122	You have to consider more than the teams who are now defunct, and the one that moved. It's happened in the course of 1996-Present, and MLS is looking into even more teams to add on. There's four to five more cities rumored to have plans in the league expansion, and others considered in league expansion. The considered ones aren't much to worry about, as it's just MLS planning ahead it seems, but the ones who are trying to get in around the 2008-2009 period and are close to doing so are the ones to think about. It brings up Fallschirmjager's question, if they can support this kind of expansion or not. __________________

07-07-2006, 07:09 AM	#29
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	Fallschirmjager should start an MLS thread so we can yak about the Yourapeeins. __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

07-07-2006, 07:20 AM	#33
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	dola, One of the quality challenges in Football Manager is trying to achieve continued success with Athletic and their unique player restriction. __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

07-06-2006, 08:25 PM	#22
Herd Fan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 129	I realize that foreign teams in leagues happens all the time. But I simply don't see what Toronto brings to MLS other than higher travel bills, a beautiful city, and tax issues for American players.

07-06-2006, 08:36 PM	#23
Herd Fan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 129	Steering back on topic, what are your favorite European leagues? I follow the Bundesliga, Premiership and Ligue 1 fairly closely. My favorite team is Bayern Munchen (my mother grew up in Bayern) and overall my favorite league is the Bundesliga.

07-07-2006, 03:45 AM	#26
boilermaker All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,956	Liverpool ends the drought this year. This is the beginning of a Red Reign.

07-07-2006, 09:07 AM	#36
Herd Fan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 129	I have immense respect for Athletic Bilbao. It's impressive when you can make a political stand and still survive in one of the world's toughest leagues. They sometimes take heat for it, but their promotion of Basque players is admirable.

07-07-2006, 10:12 AM	#37
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	I really do not see how Chelsea can not win the EPL this year My early predictions is that they will do the double and win both the EPL and FA cup. However I do not think they will win the UEFA Champions League. Im thinking a smaller club will suprise everyone and make a deep run if not outright win it.