ESPN Poll: Should Doug Flutie be in the Pro Football HOF?

[Elendil]

Flutie was great in the USFL too, IIRC; that should count!

[boilermaker]

If Canton were opened up to non-NFL numbers, then Herschel Walker is in front of Flutie in that line.

[marc]

If I were a bit older I'd probably be really pissed that Flutie's ridiculous Hail Mary vs. Miami was caught, costing OSU RB Keith Byars the Heisman.

[marc]

Originally Posted by marioh

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Warren Moon was a great NFL quarterback who put up ludicrous numbers in the run-n-shoot offense.
Flutie ? A great NFL backup quarterback.

No comparision, NFL wise, can be made between the two.
Flutie is not worthy of being enshrined in Canton, IMO.

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[JDOldSchool]

Flutie doesn't have a snowball's chance here.

To compare the CFL to the Negro Leagues might be the least funny joke ever. The CFL isn't the equivalent of the Negro Leagues. It's not Japan. I'm not sure it's even above the Arena league or NFL Europe.

Flutie getting into the Pro Football HOF would be like a guy who put up record-breaking minor league numbers and backup/average major league numbers getting into the Pro Baseball HOF because he kicked ass in AAA.

[Dagrims]

Originally Posted by CBL-Commish

There are some Negro Leaguers in Cooperstown who never played an inning of major league baseball but they seem to be the only exception. No Japanese Leaguers, no Mexican Leaguers, no Cuban Leaguers, no one inducted for their minor league careers, no one inducted solely on the basis of their pre-1876 careers, etc.

I understood Cooperstown to be the HOF for professional ballplayers in leagues set in the United States. That's the reason you don't see superstars who played in other countries. As far as minor league careers, the assumption is probably based on the following:

1. The player wasn't good enough to make the majors, so why put him in the HOF for minor league stats? However, this doesn't address the fact that in the first half of the 20th century there were minor leagues that were highly competitive and had significant talent.

2. There are a lot more bad players in the minor leagues, so the very best minor leaguer's stats might be tremendously inflated based on the pitching/hitting he faced. I don't think there's really any way to quantify this.

3. It's much harder to find people who are knowledgable enough to vote on minor leaguers. I know that doesn't necessarily preclude the Baseball Writers from voting on MLB stars, but that's for another thread.

[Dagrims]

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[Dagrims]

apparently the 30-second posting rule doesn't apply to accidental triple posting

[Elendil]

Originally Posted by boilermaker

If Canton were opened up to non-NFL numbers, then Herschel Walker is in front of Flutie in that line.

Granted.

[Prodigal Son]

Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

Flutie getting into the Pro Football HOF would be like a guy who put up record-breaking minor league numbers and backup/average major league numbers getting into the Pro Baseball HOF because he kicked ass in AAA.

Bingo.