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BaseballMan · 01-09-2006, 12:19 AM

TigerFan,
Do you still have to make league totals for say both american league and national league together or can you have separate league totals?

Le Grande Orange · 01-09-2006, 12:28 AM

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TigerFan,
Do you still have to make league totals for say both american league and national league together or can you have separate league totals?

I suspect that in order to do that you have to set them up as two separate leagues and not as subleagues under a higher level league. TF will have the actual answer though.

BaseballMan · 01-09-2006, 12:45 AM

Well i am just hoping we can have separate league totals because it might
help in historical accuracy. Expansion years, better hitting or pitching in one league, dh can all effect totals.

Le Grande Orange · 01-09-2006, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BaseballMan

Well i am just hoping we can have separate league totals because it might help in historical accuracy. Expansion years, better hitting or pitching in one league, dh can all effect totals.

True, but as long as two separate leagues can play a playoff series against each other, there's no real reason to make the AL and NL subleagues of a higher MLB league. In the past the AL and NL have had different rules anyway with regards to roster sizes and such.

cephasjames · 01-09-2006, 07:55 AM

Thank you, TF. I may be done for now, unless you do another blog of coarse.

cephasjames · 01-09-2006, 07:58 AM

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No, I don't really know how much of a difference there is. But for what it's worth MLB does classify each as a separate level, so presumably there is some sort of difference between them.

Note that short season leagues are a relatively recent invention. While the creation of the Rookie classification in 1963 had those leagues playing short seasons from the start, Class A short seasons didn't start until 1965-67. And before 1963 there were almost no short season leagues at all; the first ones that I'm aware of are the Nebraska State League of 1956-59 and the Appalachian League of 1957-62, both of which were officially Class D leagues but played short seasons.

Prior to those leagues, all U.S. and Canadian based minor leagues played full length seasons of 120 games or longer, with many playing seasons of 140 or 154 games. The higher class leagues sometimes played seasons longer than the majors; the PCL famously played 200+ game long seasons early in its history, while the AA and IL played 168 game seasons for many years before reducing to 154 games. In 1965 the higher level minors schedules were reduced to 148 games or less, and eventually that settled down into the current 140-144 game range that all but the short season leagues now play.

Thanks, LGO. That did help, and makes me want to read more books on the minors.

struggles_mightily · 01-09-2006, 12:29 PM

Thanks, LGO, excellent response. This stuff will be invaluable when creating my universe.

Tigerfan: I see now. For whatever reason I thought you'd increased the HR talent of the Texas League players rather than altered the league totals. My mistake.

andymac · 01-09-2006, 12:37 PM

Tiger Fan,

I'm not sure if you have experimented yet, but could you at some point try to give us a more in-depth idea of how Winter Leagues work?

Zitofan75 · 01-09-2006, 01:22 PM

Tiger Fan,

Thanks for the excellent blog on starting a new league. It has me and I suspect many others quite excited about this game! I was wondering if you have the time (and are allowed) to post more as your season progresses. It would be fascinating to watch your baseball universe unfold during the course of a season, not just for the micro perspective of controlling one team but also your observations on how the other teams and other leagues are operating.

Thanks again!

BaseballMan · 01-09-2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

True, but as long as two separate leagues can play a playoff series against each other, there's no real reason to make the AL and NL subleagues of a higher MLB league. In the past the AL and NL have had different rules anyway with regards to roster sizes and such.

Well thats what i mean. Would it be possible to have different rules and totals for each league besides just one using the dh. It might make
the AL an NL more unique

Le Grande Orange · 01-09-2006, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BaseballMan

Well thats what i mean. Would it be possible to have different rules and totals for each league besides just one using the dh. It might make the AL an NL more unique

By setting up the AL and NL as two individual leagues, all the options for customizing a league would apply. If instead one made the AL and NL subleagues under an MLB league, the subleagues automatically use all the settings assigned to the MLB league, other than the DH.

At least, that's how I understand the system as it's been described so far.

BaseballMan · 01-09-2006, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

By setting up the AL and NL as two individual leagues, all the options for customizing a league would apply. If instead one made the AL and NL subleagues under an MLB league, the subleagues automatically use all the settings assigned to the MLB league, other than the DH.

At least, that's how I understand the system as it's been described so far.

Sounds good.
As long as thesubleagues could play each other in a world series and yet have their own league totals and customization that would be great.
Then we can have the which is better AL or NL debate!

Chappy · 01-09-2006, 04:06 PM

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As long as thesubleagues could lay each other in a world series ...

Ewww!

cephasjames · 01-09-2006, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BaseballMan

Sounds good.
As long as thesubleagues could lay each other in a world series and yet have their own league totals and customization that would be great.
Then we can have the which is better AL or NL debate!

So far it's sounding like seperate leagues will not be able to play each other in the post season. So, for now, unless Markus says otherwise, you'll have to chose bewteen same rules or no post season.

MogulChamp · 01-09-2006, 08:18 PM

Exactly how much more control do you have over the minor leagues than currently in 6.51a. Currently you can set your lineups and rotations, can you play out the games? What else can you control? Promos, etc?

It be pretty cool to be able to focus on, for example, just your A affiliate. And have to make decisions accordingly. Then watch as your players go to the next levels.

Chappy · 01-09-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MogulChamp

Exactly how much more control do you have over the minor leagues than currently in 6.51a. Currently you can set your lineups and rotations, can you play out the games? What else can you control? Promos, etc?

It be pretty cool to be able to focus on, for example, just your A affiliate. And have to make decisions accordingly. Then watch as your players go to the next levels.

Well, promos are getting the axe, but if I', understanding everyting correctly, minor leagues will be just as detailed as major leagues (play out games, full stats, box scores, etc). The parent club has control over the player movement though.

BaseballMan · 01-09-2006, 10:40 PM

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Ewww!

damn i gotta get a new keyboard.
but i had to laugh at that.
Just checking to see if you were paying attention.

noble · 01-10-2006, 04:14 PM

Great write up Tiger

I saw this in another thread but wanted to try to tie to two together:

Is it possible to have a college league that is not affiliated with the majors but provides draftees for the majors?

Kemp · 02-06-2006, 07:09 PM

I did multiple searches on this board and I can't actually FIND the blog everyone is talking about in this thread.

Can anyone help me out!?!?

Chappy · 02-06-2006, 08:33 PM

Yes.

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01-09-2006, 12:19 AM	#21
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,641	TigerFan, Do you still have to make league totals for say both american league and national league together or can you have separate league totals?

01-09-2006, 12:45 AM	#23
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,641	Well i am just hoping we can have separate league totals because it might help in historical accuracy. Expansion years, better hitting or pitching in one league, dh can all effect totals.

01-09-2006, 12:29 PM	#27
struggles_mightily Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 292	Thanks, LGO, excellent response. This stuff will be invaluable when creating my universe. Tigerfan: I see now. For whatever reason I thought you'd increased the HR talent of the Texas League players rather than altered the league totals. My mistake.

01-09-2006, 01:22 PM	#29
Zitofan75 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: California Posts: 1,413	Tiger Fan, Thanks for the excellent blog on starting a new league. It has me and I suspect many others quite excited about this game! I was wondering if you have the time (and are allowed) to post more as your season progresses. It would be fascinating to watch your baseball universe unfold during the course of a season, not just for the micro perspective of controlling one team but also your observations on how the other teams and other leagues are operating. Thanks again!

01-09-2006, 08:18 PM	#35
MogulChamp All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 656	Exactly how much more control do you have over the minor leagues than currently in 6.51a. Currently you can set your lineups and rotations, can you play out the games? What else can you control? Promos, etc? It be pretty cool to be able to focus on, for example, just your A affiliate. And have to make decisions accordingly. Then watch as your players go to the next levels.

01-10-2006, 04:14 PM	#38
noble Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 143	Great write up Tiger I saw this in another thread but wanted to try to tie to two together: Is it possible to have a college league that is not affiliated with the majors but provides draftees for the majors?

02-06-2006, 07:09 PM	#39
Kemp All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,181	I did multiple searches on this board and I can't actually FIND the blog everyone is talking about in this thread. Can anyone help me out!?!?