A Baseball House Divided

[THE GUT]

I was scanning through Catobase and I ran across a player that promises to be my favorite non-created player: Dangerfield Talbert

[legendsport]

Originally Posted by THE GUT

I was scanning through Catobase and I ran across a player that promises to be my favorite non-created player: Dangerfield Talbert

Yep - he was a real-life Negro Leaguer. That is one great name, too.

[legendsport]

from the Confederate Baseball Weekly, August 1, 1910:

DIXIE THRUSH FLYING HIGH - The Louisville Gears have soared to the top of the Dixie League standings, led by their very own "Thrush" - Sammy Strang. The third baseman is having himself together a career season. Thus far, he's hitting .366 to lead the Confederate leagues, scored 78 runs and is turning in solid defensive play at the hot corner. With the surprising Atlanta Crackers just a half-game back and the ever-dangerous Baltimore Orioles one back, the Gears need their Dixie Thrush to keep soaring.

SMOKEY JOE FIRES UP HAVANA - Rookie fireballer "Smokey" Joe Williams has the Havana club sitting pretty in the Caribbean League race. So far, the big right-hander from Texas has established himself as the ace of the staff. He's 19-5 with a 1.81 ERA. You'd think he'd be satisfied, but the lanky Texan is disappointed with his control - he's allowed 69 walks in 228-plus innings - and vows to work on improving what he views as his weakest point. Most hitters would say that Joe doesn't have a weak point.

from the Sporting Way, August 1, 1910:

'JACKS SUFFER BIG LOSS - Connie Mack's Portland Lumberjacks, currently just a game behind the Angels in the Pacific League race, recently suffered a major setback. Star hurler "Big Ed" Walsh was lost for the season to a bicep injury. With the ace down, Mack is going to have to rely on his offense and hope his remaining pitchers can keep the team in ballgames. Lew Richie took Walsh's spot on the roster and has won his first three starts - if he keeps it up, then Portland's pennant-hopes may not be dashed.

AGING WAGNER HOPES FOR ANOTHER TITLE - Honus Wagner, long considered the dean of ballplayers, is now 36 years old and his team, the Philadelphia Patriots has been on or near the top ever since he joined them in a 1904 trade with Portland. Now Honus and his team have built a big lead in the Federal League race, sitting six games ahead of second-place Chicago. Wagner is no longer the star - that mantle has passed to third baseman Saul Eisenkamp, but he still is a key component of John McGraw's crew. He plays a steady shortstop, and his hitting - though not as solid as it once was - is still strong, with a .295 average this season.

As of July 31, 1910

U.S. Leagues Standings

Federal
Team		W	L	PCT	GB	 Pyt.	Diff 	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
Philadelphia	57	34	.626	-	56-35	1 	27-16	30-18	4-5	14-15	58	L2	4-6
Chicago		51	40	.560	6.0	45-46	6 	28-20	23-20	5-5	14-14	-	W1	7-3
Columbia	48	45	.516	10.0	49-44	-1 	28-20	20-25	7-5	17-13	-	W2	6-4
New York	45	47	.489	12.5	43-49	2 	24-17	21-30	8-6	22-15	-	W2	4-6
Boston		40	52	.435	17.5	40-52	0 	22-24	18-28	3-2	15-15	-	L3	5-5
Pittsburgh	35	58	.376	23.0	42-51	-7 	20-30	15-28	3-7	10-20	-	L1	4-6

Pacific
Team		W	L	PCT	GB	 Pyt.	Diff	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
Los Angeles	52	35	.598	-	49-38	3 	35-13	17-22	4-3	14-13	64	W1	6-4
Portland	54	39	.581	1.0	55-38	-1 	32-14	22-25	3-3	16-11	-	W2	7-3
Oakland		50	43	.538	5.0	47-46	3 	29-19	21-24	3-2	16-14	-	L1	7-3
Sacramento	42	50	.457	12.5	45-47	-3 	27-20	15-30	7-6	18-21	-	W1	3-7
San Francisco	40	48	.455	12.5	36-52	4 	21-22	19-26	1-3	19-11	-	L1	3-7
San Diego	34	57	.374	20.0	39-52	-5 	19-21	15-36	1-2	11-24	-	L5	2-8


C.S. Leagues Standings

Dixie
Team		W	L	PCT	GB	 Pyt.   Diff	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
Louisville	52	42	.553	-	51-43	1 	25-18	27-24	7-2	16-13	61	L1	3-7
Atlanta		51	42	.548	.5	49-44	2 	28-23	23-19	5-3	10-15	-	W3	8-2
Baltimore	49	41	.544	1.0	51-39	-2 	25-21	24-20	5-9	17-14	-	L1	6-4
Birmingham	48	46	.511	4.0	46-48	2 	29-21	19-25	5-4	21-11	-	W2	7-3
St. Louis	43	54	.443	10.5	42-55	1 	20-27	23-27	3-5	14-15	-	L2	2-8
Washington	39	57	.406	14.0	41-55	-2 	17-28	22-29	3-5	8-18	-	L5	3-7

Caribbean
Team		W	L	PCT	GB	 Pyt.	Diff 	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
Havana		60	31	.659	-	66-25	-6 	33-11	27-20	1-6	13-18	56	W5	7-3
Santo Domingo	53	39	.576	7.5	52-40	1 	30-17	23-22	6-6	18-13	-	L1	6-4
New Orleans	49	45	.521	12.5	51-43	-2 	27-23	22-22	3-4	16-11	-	L2	6-4
Miami		48	46	.511	13.5	44-50	4 	25-18	23-28	6-3	16-14	-	W3	5-5
Leesburg	41	53	.436	20.5	44-50	-3 	25-24	16-29	6-2	9-15	-	W1	5-5
San Juan	28	65	.301	33.0	24-69	4 	13-33	15-32	5-6	12-13	-	L9	1-9

[legendsport]

from the Confederate Baseball Weekly, August 8, 1910:

Jesse Tannehill has declared that henceforth he will no longer wear two hats for the Louisville Gears. The original skipper and pitching ace for the Gears has decided to take the mound no more. "It's time," he said. "I had a late start after my military career, so I knew that I wouldn't pitch for long, and this is my fifth season and I just can't pitch the way I want to, and the way the team needs me to. So I'm going to concentrate on managing."

Asked whether he thought about retiring from managing as well, Tannehill laughed and said, "Heck, no! I'll be in the dugout until (team owner) Mr. Olds kicks me out. We've got some championships to win, son!"

[legendsport]

I'm going to be offline for a week, so there'll be no updates, but the dynasty will definitely continue, so please hang in there.

[metsgeek]

No, Joe! Say it ain't so!

[THE GUT]

Is Joe back yet??

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by legendsport

I'm going to be offline for a week, so there'll be no updates, but the dynasty will definitely continue, so please hang in there.

you sure about that?

[legendsport]

Originally Posted by canadiancreed

you sure about that?

Yes, I know it's been a lot longer than a week, but the dynasty will continue. Been busy with work, and I'm moving too (had to find a house, get the current one ready for sale, etc).

[rudel.dietrich]

Originally Posted by legendsport

Yes, I know it's been a lot longer than a week, but the dynasty will continue. Been busy with work, and I'm moving too (had to find a house, get the current one ready for sale, etc).

Moving out of New York?

[legendsport]

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Moving out of New York?

Yep - moving to northeast Ohio.

[legendsport]

from the Sporting Way, October 10, 1910:

COLLINS COMES INTO HIS OWN - Young Eddie Collins, the college-educated second sacker for the Oakland Oaks, nicknamed "Cocky" for his self-assured manner on the diamond, captured his first batting title with a U.S.-best .355 and helped the Oakland Oaks capture their first Pacific League pennant.

Said Collins, "This is just the beginning. We've still got a lot of work ahead of us, starting with the Philadelphias." Yep, John J. McGraw's Philadelphia nine is back in the postseason, winning the Federal League pennant for the fifth straight season.

LEDBETTER SEES AVERAGE DROP, BUT INCREASES 'POP' - Royce Ledbetter, one of the talented trio of Los Angeles flycatchers, hit .368 in 1909 to cement his place among the league's elite batsmen. This season, his average dipped to .302, but his upped his longball stats, as he connected for a U.S.-best eight, up from just one a year ago. Asked for an explanation, the youngster shrugged and said, "Tonic."

'BUMPUS' WINS THIRTY - Elijah Jones, affectionately known as "Bumpus" to Oakland partisans and Oak players, reached a rare milestone when he notched his 30th victory of the season on October 2nd against Portland. Jones made 43 starts this season, and finished with a 30-12 record with six shutouts, a big reason why the Oaks finally captured a Pacific League pennant.

RUBE LEADS PHILA TO ANOTHER PENNANT - McGraw's men in Philadelphia have won five straight Fed crowns, and ask any of them for the key to last couple of those flags and they'll answer, "Rube's the reason." And indeed he is, as Andrew "Rube" Foster, expatriate of the Confederacy and ace of the United States, polished off another outstanding season on the hill. Foster went 25-9 with a sterling 1.94 ERA (best in the U.S.) and also struck out 169 batsment (also tops in the U.S.). But Foster is not satisfied, saying he hopes to "down the Oaks and then put down whatever team the Confederates send us."


Final Standings, 1910:

U.S. Leagues Standings
Federal
Team		W	L	PCT	GB	 Pyt.	Diff 	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
Philadelphia	94	56	.627	-	98-52	-4 	45-30	49-26	5-6	21-24	*	L2	7-3
Chicago		80	70	.533	14.0	71-79	9 	41-34	39-36	7-7	23-23	-	W2	6-4
Boston		72	78	.480	22.0	70-80	2 	38-37	34-41	4-4	27-22	-	W1	6-4
Columbia	72	78	.480	22.0	72-78	0 	38-37	34-41	11-6	26-17	-	L6	2-8
New York	66	84	.440	28.0	61-89	5 	36-39	30-45	11-9	33-26	-	W4	6-4
Pittsburgh	66	84	.440	28.0	78-72	-12 	34-41	32-43	5-11	17-35	-	L1	3-7
Pacific
Team		W	L	PCT	GB	 Pyt.	Diff 	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
Oakland		83	67	.553	-	80-70	3 	44-31	39-36	7-5	24-23	2	L1	4-6
Los Angeles	80	70	.533	3.0	77-73	3 	47-28	33-42	5-8	22-24	-	L2	4-6
Portland	80	70	.533	3.0	81-69	-1 	46-29	34-41	8-5	28-17	-	W1	6-4
Sacramento	76	74	.507	7.0	78-72	-2 	42-33	34-41	14-8	28-28	-	W1	7-3
San Francisco	70	80	.467	13.0	67-83	3 	37-38	33-42	2-8	30-24	-	W3	6-4
San Diego	61	89	.407	22.0	66-84	-5 	31-44	30-45	5-7	18-34	-	L5	3-7

[legendsport]

from the Confederate Baseball Weekly, October 10, 1910:

POP LLOYD HAS SEASON FOR THE AGES - Much has been made in the past about the superlatives skills of Miami shortstop John Henry Lloyd. Though just 26 years of age, the mature play of this superb player has earned him the nickname "Pop" - and he has once again topped himself in 1910. Pop's tremendous season saw him win the first-ever Confederate Triple Crown. Lloyd hit .360 (best in all of baseball, including our northerly cousins), and hit an astounding 28 homeruns while driving in 103 runs - all easily the best in all of Confederate baseball. Lloyd outhomered every team in ALL of baseball except Philadelphia (28), Atlanta (29), Santo Domingo (35) and Leesburg (41). An amazing performance from an amazing player.

DIXIE THRUSH LEADS LOUISVILLE TO PENNANT - It was just another year at the office for the Dixie Thrush, Sammy Strang. Strang his .325 - just like he did in 1909 - to lead the Gears and also scored 110 runs, the tops in Confederate baseball. Teaming with young Napoleon Wilde, who led the team in runs batted in, Strang and the Gears will be a tough matchup in the postseason for Pop Lloyd and the Superbas.

ROOKIE WILLIAMS IS FAR AND AWAY BEST MOUNDSMAN IN 1910 - "Smokey Joe" Williams is, without a doubt, the winner of the top rookie honors for 1910. He's also inarguably the best pitcher in Confederate - and possibly ALL of - baseball. All the tall right-hander did in his first pro season: 27-10 record, 1.59 earned run average, and 347 strikeouts in 367-plus innings. He held opponents to a .191 average and allowed less than a baserunner per inning. A fantastic season for the 25-year-old newcomer.

FINAL STANDINGS, 1910:

C.S. Leagues Standings
Dixie
Team		W	L	PCT	GB	 Pyt.	Diff 	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
Louisville	85	65	.567	-	81-69	4 	45-30	40-35	10-3	28-19	3	W1	7-3
Atlanta		83	67	.553	2.0	78-72	5 	42-33	41-34	10-5	17-22	-	L1	5-5
Birmingham	77	73	.513	8.0	78-72	-1 	45-30	32-43	8-9	28-20	-	W1	4-6
Baltimore	73	77	.487	12.0	75-75	-2 	36-39	37-38	8-17	28-26	-	L1	3-7
St. Louis	66	84	.440	19.0	66-84	0 	32-43	34-41	6-5	21-22	-	L2	6-4
Washington	66	84	.440	19.0	71-79	-5 	34-41	32-43	4-7	13-26	-	W1	6-4
Caribbean
Team		W	L	PCT	GB	 Pyt.	Diff	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
Havana		101	49	.673	-	108-42	-7 	58-17	43-32	4-9	25-27	*	W2	6-4
Miami		80	70	.533	21.0	77-73	3 	46-29	34-41	9-7	24-26	-	L2	5-5
Santo Domingo	79	71	.527	22.0	78-72	1 	43-32	36-39	10-8	30-23	-	L2	3-7
New Orleans	78	72	.520	23.0	78-72	0 	40-35	38-37	7-8	28-22	-	W3	7-3
Leesburg	58	92	.387	43.0	64-86	-6 	33-42	25-50	8-6	17-29	-	L4	3-7
San Juan	54	96	.360	47.0	49-101	5 	30-45	24-51	7-7	24-21	-	W3	5-5

[legendsport]

from the Sporting Way, October 25, 1910:

COLLINS LEADS OAKS TO WORLD'S TITLE - Call him "Cocky" (as many do), if you wish, but Eddie Collins delivered. The young keystoner paced his Oakland Oaks to the world's championship, as they made light work of the heavily-favored Philadelphians by a margin of four games to one for the U.S. title and then swept the "exhibition" match series with the Louisville club (champions of the Confederate league) in two straight.

OAKS TOO MUCH FOR PHILADELPHIA - Things started out well for the Oaks as they took game one from Philadelphia - in the City of Brotherly Love - behind a strong pitching performance from Bumpus Jones and a five-run top of the ninth, for a 6-1 win.

Game two saw catcher Admiral Schlei drive in three runs as the Oaks took the game 4-2 to lead the series two-nothing heading west.

Game three was won by the visitors, 8-6, as Philly plated three runs in the ninth to avoid falling into a three-to-nothing hole.

Game four had the Oaks right back on top as they took command of the series with a one-sided 9-2 win with Bumpus Jones again sterling on the hill and Eddie Collins and Beals Becker each contributing a pair of RBIs.

In game five the Oaks vanquished the foe by a score of 9-1. Collins drove in three runs with his second straight three-hit game and Bill Grahame held the Philadelphians one run on six hits. A livid John McGraw stomped on his cigar in the dugout at the conclusion of the game.

LOUISVILLE EDGES PAST HAVANA FOR C.S. CROWN - Like the Oaks, the Gears took the first two games, also on the road, winning 2-1 in game one and plating two in the ninth to take game two by a score of 6-4. Sammy Strang, Rebel Oakes and Nap Wilde were all key components to the Gears' first two victories.

Games three and four in Louisville were both extra inning affairs, with Havana edging the Gears in game three by a 2-1 margin in 10 innings. The fourth tilt took 13 innings to determine a victor, with Louisville's Hans Lobert driving home Dustin Flesher with the winner in a 6-5 contest.

Havana took games five and six to tie the series at three apiece, but a four-run sixth in game seven for the Gears was the difference as Louisville won 6-3 to take the Confederate championship.

PITCHING DOMINATES AS OAKLAND DEFEATS LOUISVILLE - It was close, very close, but Oakland won both games of the short "World's Championship" exhibition with the Confederate-champion Louisville Gears.

Game one saw Louisville's Bumpus Jones match Oakland's Howie Camnitz almost pitch-for-pitch, but Danny Green's two runs scored and Eddie Collins pair of hits, allowed the Oaks to edge past Louisville, 3 to 1 to take game one in Oakland.

"Sunny Jim" Dygert was just too much for the Gears to handle in game two as he held them to just three hits and struck out 11 in a 2-0 win for the Oaks. Nux James had three of Oakland's six hits, and drove in one of the runs. Collins was held hitless for the first time in the postseason, but did complete the playoff season with a .467 batting average.

In the post-series press meeting, Albert Spalding and Clark Griffith announced that the 1911 season would be capped with a best-of-seven "official" world's championship series between the U.S. and Confederate champions.

[metsgeek]

Woohoo!! It's Back!!

[legendsport]

Originally Posted by metsgeek

Woohoo!! It's Back!!

Yep - thanks for being patient. I can't promise the blistering pace of the beginning because I don't have as much time as I did then, but after the move I should be able to get back to a speedier pace. In the meantime the dynasty will continue - more slowly than before - but it will be ongoing.

I updated the Cato history on the "extras" site this morning and am working on getting the fictional player page on that site updated.

[metsgeek]

Originally Posted by legendsport

Yep - thanks for being patient. I can't promise the blistering pace of the beginning because I don't have as much time as I did then, but after the move I should be able to get back to a speedier pace. In the meantime the dynasty will continue - more slowly than before - but it will be ongoing.

I updated the Cato history on the "extras" site this morning and am working on getting the fictional player page on that site updated.

That's fine. You were making me look bad with my Plague Dynasty at only 2-3 posts per day

[legendsport]

from the Sporting Way, November 15, 1910:

The U.S. and Confederate Baseball Organizations each decided to hold their allocation drafts early this off-season. Results are below:

U.S. Team Allocation
Round 1:

San Diego pick: 3B Will Scobie
Pittsburgh pick: P Ray Fisher
New York pick: 1B Vic Saier
San Francisco pick: P Ray Caldwell
Columbia pick: P Pete Alexander
Boston pick: SS Art Fletcher
Sacramento pick: P Claude Hendrix
Portland pick: 3B Tim Hendryx
Chicago pick: CF Ping Bodie
Los Angeles pick: P Vean Gregg
Oakland pick: P Joe Benz
Philadelphia pick: 1B Jack McInnis

Round 2 :

San Diego pick: P Pat Ragan
Pittsburgh pick: P Chet Hoff
New York pick: 1B Fred Luderus
San Francisco pick: P Jesse Baker
Columbia pick: SS Jimmy Esmond
Boston pick: P Fred Blanding
Sacramento pick: SS Otis Johnson
Portland pick: P Buck O'Brien
Chicago pick: RF Frank Gilhooley
Los Angeles pick: P Casey Hageman
Oakland pick: P Curly Brown
Philadelphia pick: P Charlie Becker


Round 3 :

San Diego pick: LF Jimmie Lyons
Pittsburgh pick: 2B Steve Yerkes
New York pick: P Jim Baskette
San Francisco pick: P Mack Allison
Columbia pick: C Grover Hartley
Boston pick: P Fred Sherry
Sacramento pick: 3B Ed McDonald
Portland pick: P Raleigh Aitchison
Chicago pick: CF Max Carey
Los Angeles pick: P Earl Hamilton
Oakland pick: LF Joe Riggert
Philadelphia pick: LF Mike Fitzgerald


Round 4 :

San Diego pick: LF Hank Butcher
Pittsburgh pick: P Joe Willis
New York pick: P Pete Standridge
San Francisco pick: P Lefty George
Columbia pick: 2B Paddy Baumann
Boston pick: P Gene Krapp
Sacramento pick: P Bill James
Portland pick: C Les Nunamaker
Chicago pick: P Harry Gardner
Los Angeles pick: 3B Scotty Ingerton
Oakland pick: RF Pete Compton
Philadelphia pick: P Ed Donnelly


Round 5 :

San Diego pick: CF Al Kaiser
Pittsburgh pick: 2B Marty Berghammer
New York pick: P Jack Killilay
San Francisco pick: 3B Art Butler
Columbia pick: P Bill Schardt
Boston pick: P Lou Lowdermilk
Sacramento pick: 1B Joe Kutina
Portland pick: 1B Del Gainer
Chicago pick: LF Delos Drake
Los Angeles pick: SS Bert Tooley
Oakland pick: SS Antonio Callazo
Philadelphia pick: C Dick Cotter

Round 6:

San Diego pick: P Wiley Taylor
Pittsburgh pick: 3B Wally Smith
New York pick: 1B Newt Hunter
San Francisco pick: P Gene Woodburn
Columbia pick: 1B Rip Williams
Boston pick: LF Willie Hogan
Sacramento pick: C Wally Mayer
Portland pick: P Cy Slapnicka
Chicago pick: CF Biff Schaller
Los Angeles pick: LF Jud Daley
Oakland pick: P Howard Armstrong
Philadelphia pick: LF Burt Shotton


Round 7 :

San Diego pick: C John Henry
Pittsburgh pick: C Bob Williams
New York pick: P Lefty Tyler
San Francisco pick: P Judge Nagle
Columbia pick: SS Ed Hallinan
Boston pick: P Ensign Cottrell
Sacramento pick: C Paul Krichell
Portland pick: 1B Jack Ness
Chicago pick: P Allan Collamore
Los Angeles pick: RF Harry Welchonce
Oakland pick: 2B Jack Lewis
Philadelphia pick: SS Roy Corhan


Confederacy Allocation:

Round 1:

San Juan pick: P Dick Redding
Leesburg pick: P Romulo Obregon
New Orleans pick: P Dante Martinez
Santo Domingo pick: 2B Rigoberto Vargas
Miami pick: 2B Raoul Perez
Havana pick: LF Robert Gans
Washington pick: LF Joe Jackson
St. Louis pick: CF Hurley McNair
Baltimore pick: LF Tilly Walker
Birmingham pick: P Reggie Richter
Atlanta pick: CF Guy Zinn
Louisville pick: P Ed Lafitte


Round 2:

San Juan pick: P Arturo Hermosillo
Leesburg pick: P William Dismukes
New Orleans pick: 1B Leroy Grant
Santo Domingo pick: 3B Rafael Almeida
Miami pick: 3B Todd Allen
Havana pick: 1B Dave Rowan
Washington pick: P Ed Hawk
St. Louis pick: RF Doc Miller
Baltimore pick: 1B Bill Keen
Birmingham pick: P Buck Stanley
Atlanta pick: P Jack Lively
Louisville pick: 2B Johnny Priest


Round 3:

San Juan pick: P Bill McTigue
Leesburg pick: P Jack Compton
New Orleans pick: 2B Guy Tutwiler
Santo Domingo pick: C Gus Fisher
Miami pick: 3B Bill Lindsay
Havana pick: P Walt Herrell
Washington pick: P Pug Cavet
St. Louis pick: 3B Lee Miller
Baltimore pick: RF Olaf Henriksen
Birmingham pick: P Hub Perdue
Atlanta pick: RF Otto McIvor
Louisville pick: LF Denney Wilie


Round 4:

Washington pick: P George Chalmers
St. Louis pick: P Gene Dale
Baltimore pick: 1B Mickey Keliher
Birmingham pick: P Tex Covington
Atlanta pick: P Carl Cashion
Louisville pick: SS Ivy Olson
San Juan pick: P Elmer Brown
Leesburg pick: LF George Jackson
New Orleans pick: P Hank Griffin
Santo Domingo pick: C Paddy Mayes
Miami pick: P Howie Gregory
Havana pick: SS Harry Spratt

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by metsgeek

That's fine. You were making me look bad with my Plague Dynasty at only 2-3 posts per day

and my two-three posts a month

[nomar363]

Originally Posted by legendsport

Yep - moving to northeast Ohio.

Yeah! Go Northeast Ohio!