Gambo and T_Wil1 Photopack

[Patsy Tebeau]

Originally Posted by prewinter

Ernie Hickman pitched for Vincennes in 1883.I found a note about him being relieved by McCauley (Al?), and the article specified that McCauley was a left-handed pitcher. But no handedness was specified for Hickman. This would sugget he was right-handed, IMO. I did some digging on Hickman in connection with his time with the St. Louis Browns Reserve club in 1884, before his time in Kansas City. I found no other references to which hand he pitched with anywhere else.

I think Richard Hershberger would be the man to ask then. He has a giant collection of 19th century clippings so I'm sure he can tell us maybe possibly. As I said I haven't interacted much with people outside of specific projects I worked on nor am I super close with him but I know of him and his collection and have talked to him at least twice ever since he's a part of protoball too.

[tnfoto]

Originally Posted by Patsy Tebeau

Anyways, to continue with another question, George Popplein is listed as missing on the link I got from the signature but the document itself says 2022 (if I downloaded this wrong somehow please tell me) and I seen this image said to be him on a few sites. I think it's from an 1860-something team photo if I recall since I know for a fact I seen the full picture before but don't know where I did.

The last major revision I made to the list was on March 9, 2022, when I added "found" pages for players, manager, and umpires, so that is the date on the file. Since then, it has been a living document which I update as new finds are made, or players are re-added to the missing list.

As for the player identified as Popplein, I have not seen identifications for that photo, and I know there is (or at least was) some question about whether the major league player was George or his brother Joe.

Here is a copy of the full Baltimore Pastimes team photo; I have not seen a copy of this photo with player IDs. While it is labeled 1867, I am also aware that there has been some question as to the specific year the photo was taken, which makes definitive player IDs even tougher.

[Patsy Tebeau]

Originally Posted by tnfoto

The last major revision I made to the list was on March 9, 2022, when I added "found" pages for players, manager, and umpires, so that is the date on the file. Since then, it has been a living document which I update as new finds are made, or players are re-added to the missing list.

As for the player identified as Popplein, I have not seen identifications for that photo, and I know there is (or at least was) some question about whether the major league player was George or his brother Joe.

Here is a copy of the full Baltimore Pastimes team photo; I have not seen a copy of this photo with player IDs. While it is labeled 1867, I am also aware that there has been some question as to the specific year the photo was taken, which makes definitive player IDs even tougher.

I haven't seen any identifications either which was another reason I had to question it. The closest thing I could find was on Craig's "Threads of Our Game" site where he lists suggestions for as to who may be in the photo but nothing definitely listing all the players ID's so I'm not sure where this alleged identification could have come from. I'll look up some of these names to see if there's any grave or family sites or something that I can use to find who they are.

That reminds me I have a few questions about some of the photos I have on my pre-MLB players thread since I got some of them from the web archive sites that are no longer up but fortunately I think I in fact do have some of the links still saved in there. I'll forward them all to Bruce Allardice and get his input since we recently been adding a bunch of new pictures to the protoball archive this past year and also some of them were saved in various archival sites owned by non SABR people and randomly some were on Getty images that were labelled as certain things but there was also that incident where they mislabeled a picture as Levi Meyerle that I saw on there last year so I have a bit of scrutiny for those sites too, as I do for some team player identifications for photos that don't directly have the names written on them. I'll also attempt to go back and see if I can find the sources from where I got each one since I know they all came from somewhere and I'm not just making stuff up and I'll post the links.

EDIT: I have now added the source links for a majority of the photos on that thread. A good majority of the ones I had from the web archived sites matched up with ones that are also apparently posted on Threads of Our Game so I put the links to that site with the images instead for some of them since it's more reliable (hence why the images might be slightly different color shades than the ones on Threads but are still the same one) All the Getty ones are linked too and some of the other images are from Find A Grave and stuff like that.