Gambo and T_Wil1 Photopack

[cinemaodyssey]

William Ritter played in 1 game as a catcher for the 1890 Toledo team. He was a native of Columbus, OH and played semi-pro ball around there for quite some time. Up until very recently his baseball record was thought to be "Floyd Ritter" but SABR research has corrected this. In 1892 he became a fireman and at the time of his death was the Fire Chief for the city of Columbus. This photo comes from the Columbus Public Library showing him early in his fire career.

[Chickazoola]

Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

William Ritter played in 1 game as a catcher for the 1890 Toledo team. He was a native of Columbus, OH and played semi-pro ball around there for quite some time. Up until very recently his baseball record was thought to be "Floyd Ritter" but SABR research has corrected this. In 1892 he became a fireman and at the time of his death was the Fire Chief for the city of Columbus. This photo comes from the Columbus Public Library showing him early in his fire career.

Great find, I was the one who found the correct ID, but couldn't locate an image.

[Terry D]

Originally Posted by Merkle923

From the same seller, we boost to three the number of color images in circulation of the long-time Brave and Expo who finished up as a two-game Yankee in 1983.

Thanks for the Couchees and the Office too, great stuff.

By the way, there is a pretty good Braves fan site out there called "Rowland's Office."

[UKBaseballfan]

Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

I had not seen Kurtz in color before. This comes from Crackerjack Baseball Cards on Ebay.

Another find from the same source. The facepack currently shows Mauriello with Brooklyn, however, the only Major League team that Mauriello played for was the Los Angeles Dodgers.

[prewinter]

Charlie Kavanagh, pictured with the 1913 Chicago Federals. Photo from the collection of the Chicago History Museum.

[rrb77]

Originally Posted by prewinter

Charlie Kavanagh, pictured with the 1913 Chicago Federals. Photo from the collection of the Chicago History Museum.

I could be wrong, but your photo which you IDed as Charlie Kavanagh, looks a lot like Leo Kavanagh who played for the 1914 Federal League Chicago Whales which I included.

[UKBaseballfan]

Here is an alternate option for Andy Rush extracted from the 1925 Brooklyn Robins spring training team photo.

[prewinter]

Originally Posted by rrb77

I could be wrong, but your photo which you IDed as Charlie Kavanagh, looks a lot like Leo Kavanagh who played for the 1914 Federal League Chicago Whales which I included.

It turns out there were three Kavanaghs who played in the majors in 1914. Charlie played for the White Sox, while Leo played for the Whales in the Federal League, and Marty played for Detroit. The Kavanagh who played for the Federals in 1913 was Charlie, aka Silk, Kavanagh, and the photo is definitely from the 1913 Federal League. I haven't checked to see if the two (Leo and Charlie) were brothers. Both were from Chicago.

Updated: A quick perusal of Ancestry.com doesn't reveal any immediate connection between Charlie and Leo. That doesn't mean it isn't there. Leo did have a brother named Charlie, but he was born (according to the quick search) in 1884.

The photo came from the website of the Chicago Historical Society, and is one of several photos of players identified as with the Chicago Federals in 1913, including Jack Farrell, Lou Gertenrich, Jimmy McDonough, and Tom McGuire. Gertenrich did not play for the Whales in 1914, while the others did. Maybe the photos are dated incorrectly?

[UKBaseballfan]

An alternate option for Tex Wilson extracted from the same 1925 Brooklyn Robins spring training team photo.

[rrb77]

1919-20,23 Philadelphia A's...from current RMY auction.

[Merkle923]

Drafted by the A's (didn't sign), drafted by the Pirates (became one of their top prospects), dealt to the A's in a huge 6-for-3 trade in the middle of Spring Training 1977, released and returned to the Pirates for a swan song in September 1984 (where we find him, photographed by Brace).

The '77 trade seemed like a total farce. The Pirates sent Doc Medich, who hadn't worked out, an aging Dave Giusti, and four prospects who hadn't panned out (Page, Tony Armas, Doug Bair, and Rick Langford) for impending free agent star infielder Phil Garner, veteran utility man Tommy Helms, and pitcher Chris Batton. There were some thoughts Bowie Kuhn would stop that deal, as he had Charlie Finley selling off Vida Blue to the Yankees and Rollie Fingers and Joe Rudi to the Red Sox the year before.

Instead, everybody the A's got exploded out of the gate. At the end of April, Mitchell Page was batting .366, had five homers and five steals and 19 RBI in 21 games. The A's won 7 of 8 and as late as April 29th were still tied for first in the A.L. West. The bloom faded quickly, they fired manager Jack McKeon, they traded away Mike Torrez, and they resumed negotiations to move to Denver.

Page continued to hit, though. 2nd in the AL with 42 steals, seventh with a 6.1 WAR, runner-up to Eddie Murray as AL Rookie of the Year. He had a strong 1978 but then began to fade and the A's dropped him early in '84. He finally made his Bucs debut that August and made 15 pinch-hitting appearances without as much as an RBI.

[UKBaseballfan]

Alternate option for Leary with the 1914 St Louis Browns from the RMY Auction.

I would advise caution in respect of some of the images on the current auction. One team photo I have addressed, in the thread concentrating on identifications of players in team photos, where the image in question appears to be significantly misdated. In addition an image identified as Larry Gardner is in my opinion Roger Bresnahan.

[rrb77]

Originally Posted by UKBaseballfan

Alternate option for Leary with the 1914 St Louis Browns from the RMY Auction.

I would advise caution in respect of some of the images on the current auction. One team photo I have addressed, in the thread concentrating on identifications of players in team photos, where the image in question appears to be significantly misdated. In addition an image identified as Larry Gardner is in my opinion Roger Bresnahan.

Tris Speaker is also identified as Harry Hooper.

[cinemaodyssey]

Does anyone have a reference for the image in the Facepack and Baseball-Reference for Freund? I spent a good deal of time today trying to track that down and came up empty. His name was spelled a variety of ways in the papers, usually as "Lentz Freund or Lenz Friend."

[Cusick]

Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

Does anyone have a reference for the image in the Facepack and Baseball-Reference for Freund? I spent a good deal of time today trying to track that down and came up empty. His name was spelled a variety of ways in the papers, usually as "Lentz Freund or Lenz Friend."

The only image I know about for Frank Freund, who has always been known in the baseball annals as Lawrence "Frank" Freund, was found by Marc Okkonen in the 1911 Spalding Guide on page 256 in the photo of the Lima team in the Ohio State League. The photo of him on the baseball-reference website looks like it could have come from a Spalding Guide.

[cinemaodyssey]

Originally Posted by Cusick

The only image I know about for Frank Freund, who has always been known in the baseball annals as Lawrence "Frank" Freund, was found by Marc Okkonen in the 1911 Spalding Guide on page 256 in the photo of the Lima team in the Ohio State League. The photo of him on the baseball-reference website looks like it could have come from a Spalding Guide.

Thank you for that reference. Near as I can tell, these are two different individuals. Lawrence Freund is the major leaguer, coming out of Jeffersonville, Indiana but spending a ton of time in Louisville. He was a stocky and short-tempered man who was constantly running into the law and spent time in jail in 1896 for threatening a police officer with a baseball bat.
The player pictured in Baseball-Reference in the 1911 Lima team is named "Frank B. Friend" and I don't see a connection between the two. Unless someone else has a picture I think Freund might have to go on the Missing Player list.

[UKBaseballfan]

Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

Does anyone have a reference for the image in the Facepack and Baseball-Reference for Freund? I spent a good deal of time today trying to track that down and came up empty. His name was spelled a variety of ways in the papers, usually as "Lentz Freund or Lenz Friend."

The Frank Freund image in question was posted back in September 2007 as a missing player between images of Art Herman and Billy Kinloch, also posted as missing players. It would not be unreasonable to speculate that all 3 images came from a similar source.

[Dto7]

Blaine Thomas, from the 7-27-1911 Plain Dealer.

[Chickazoola]

Been spending time on Molly Moore's case trying to ID him and stumbled about an eventful woodcut of him. Moore was a rough and tumble character from the Bowery in lower Manhattan and had a few run-ins with the law. In April 1878, he was shot during an altercation in a Bowery bar. A woodcut of the fracas was published in the April 27, 1878 National Police Gazette. He is the man falling to the ground based on the details of the accompanying article.

In between criminal exploits (multiple thefts and breakins) and drunken brawls, Moore was a heck of an athlete, starring for top NYC baseball clubs, competing in track races, and most impressively winning multiple handball and racquets championships. The Clipper has him dying on February 24, 1881, but still trying to finalize confirmation on that.

[Chickazoola]

Sorry forgot to finish uploading the images.