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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kansas
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Don't look now, but it appears the world champion Cawkney Crusaders team has rotated out its entire squad.
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Belle Glade, FL
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Yes, they have and their short a fighter currently. I not sure what Tosti is doing, if I remember correctly the Crusaders had a ton of Prime fighters so maybe he wanted to get younger which he did. I wouldn't have touch my team if it had just won the Championship. Of course, the best I've done is a division title while he's taken two of those and a League Title so I'm sure he knows what he's doing.
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All Star Reserve
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 952
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420th Street Gym releases:
MW Freddie Cabral WW Paul Williams BW Pierre Cossemyns
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All Star Reserve
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: A house in the wooded mountains
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I have the feeling I'll be taking a beating again. I think I made too many moves. O-well.
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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It is a much better team. Coupled with the schedule that you made for Oakland, I'd say it's a good bet that you'll be in it at the end.
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: louisville
Posts: 14,941
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I really didn't make too many off season moves .. One big trade. I think I have a good mix but my 9's and 10's need to perform well. I'm looking right at you Oscar!
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: East Haven, CT
Posts: 19,016
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Roster Turnover
Tomato City has turned over 1/2 of its roster for Season 4:
OUT:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxIN: HW (10) George Chuvalo 41-18-1 (3) Primexxxxx(10) Young Stribling 0-0-0 (0) Beginning LHW (6) Billy Fox 27-27-3 (19) Primexxxxxxxxxxxx(7) Freddie Mills 44-20-3 (31) Prime WW (8) Oba Carr 39-22-2 (21) Primexxxxxxxxxxxx(6) Mark Breland 38-24-3 (16) Prime LW (4) Juan Zurita 12-15-1 (5) Pre-Primexxxxxxxx(4) Ernesto Espana 26-30-1 (18) Pre-Prime FW (9) Terry McGovern 46-17-1 (37) Pre-Primexx(8) Barry McGuigan 44-14-0 (33) Prime BW (4) Eddie Cook 25-31-1 (17) Primexxxxxxxxxxx(3) Alimi Goitia 0-4-0 (0) Beginning FLY (7) Ramon Arias 11-9-3 (5) Pre-Primexxxxxxxx(9) Benny Lynch 0-0-0 (0) Beginning FLY (4) Gilberto Gonzalez 23-31-2 (16) Pre-Primex(4) Jiro Takada 25-26-4 (6) Prime I don't know it this is much of an improvement, but since I can't seem to beat the Beavers, I felt a team overhaul was needed. I really wanted to upgrade at Flyweight and welcome Benny Lynch to the Tomatoes. (And I'm still sore about not getting Alphonse Halimi) Even with these roster changes, I confident that Tomato City is guarranteed to start the Season 0-3 thanks to the schedule. Hope the remaining schedule is posted before the beginning of the season. |
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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In my opinion, this isn't the NFL where market size disparities need to be addressed in-part through scheduling. We all have an equal opportunity. My goal is to finally beat Ice Tea. Of course he'll have a tougher schedule than me so my job will be a tad easier. The other side of the coin is that I probably have no shot at the wildcard because teams that were worse than me last year will get to pile up points against a slew of expansion and second year teams. If we do this every year, we eventually will have the schedule to a large degree dictating who gets in the playoffs. I hope that I am wrong about that, but that's my two cents on it. I would far prefer to play multiple games against divisional rivals and then round out against conference opponents. Three against each division rival (make one a neutral site match) and three against non divisional conf. teams. You could do the parity shuffle on those last three games. That way, the best team in each division should advance rather than the team that can pile up points because they stunk last year and get to play other bad teams. The three 'parity' games would help decide the wild cards for sure but at least we wouldn't have the schedule potentially deciding divisional winners as well. Christopher
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Belle Glade, FL
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I went into the offseason not planning on making any big moves and focusing on shoring up my lower end fighters by grabbing productive low ranked guys. I think I accomplished this.
NEW xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx OLD Sylvester MiteexxxxxxxGiovanni Parisi Juan Zurita xxxxxxxxxxLarry Boardman Ronnie ClaytonxxxxxxxxVictor Polo Mitee is a huge upgrade over Parisi has Sylvester has proven himself capable of actually winning a fight which Parisi couldn't do. Zurita at worse is equaled to Boardman but I think he'll prove to be a superior fighter as well. Finally, I think Clayton will improve on his 6-7-3 record now that he will be at Pre-Prime for a full season, maybe a possible contender for Comeback Fighter of the Year. I've made my feelings about Polo already known in a different post. The only thing I'm not all that happy with is that I managed to once again come out of the offseason with no draft picks for the upcoming draft. I really think the Muckboys are vastly improved over last years model and will capture the division title.
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Turnover
Less turnover than has previously been the norm for Hebron.
![]() Dearly departed-----------------------New faces LHW (2) Paul Smallman----------------(5) Miguel Angel Cuello LHW (9) Georges Carpentier-----------(8) John Conteh MW (6) Vito Antuofermo---------------(9) John Mugabi MW (5) Walter Cartier-----------------(1) Ilyas Ahmed LW (3) Justin Juuko-------------------(4) Claude Noel BW (6) Khaokor Galaxy----------------(4) Rodolfo Martinez Hoping to catch IceTea one of these years.
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: louisville
Posts: 14,941
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Working on an alternate scheduling idea .. will have it posted in an hour or so. Just to give another option.
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Banned
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 3,458
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I've created some decent matchups for myself in my division, though I still thoroughly expect to get beat pretty soundly. I rushed to a MW upgrade, getting Antuofermo for a 3rd round pick, only to make a better deal later that left me with a surplus at the class. So Vito goes bye, and I piss away my 3rd round pick. Live and learn, I suppose.
Overall, I like my team, for an expansion crew anyway. We'll see how it plays out. Right now, I just want to fight ![]() GH |
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: The Scorched Desert
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I made a few changes, but I really wanted to get a few guys to Prime this Season hopefully. I am checking my early matchups and my first two opponents, though expansion teams look to match up fairly well against me. The question remains, how long will the UTBA's longest current losing streak continue, and was it smart to pass over a couple of tempting trade offers to hang on to the #1 pick????
Though Perez is a great Fighter, the Fly Division is by no means weak and he may take his lumps until he hits Pre-Prime. |
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: louisville
Posts: 14,941
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Absolutely no disrespect meant to Dan .. but here is an alternate schedule. It has nothing to previous year's records only based on alpha order.
4 year schedule (assuming no expansion) with 6 division matches and 4 conferences matches each year. Year 3 and 4 are just 1 & 2 flopped for home/away. There will be an occasional 3 match home or away stretch but in the end each team has 5 & 5 and the schedules flop in year 3 and 4 Zipped excel spreadsheet. Last edited by mh2365; 04-15-2007 at 07:07 PM. |
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#3735 |
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Here is my dream schedule which is likely too narrow for most.
It consists of a home, road and neutral match with each of your divisional foes and one non-divisional match. I would rather have three non-divisional matches but that would push us to 12 bouts per season. I did this quickly - if the idea (10 or 12 bout season) of more divisional play is desirable I can clean it up and correct errors that I am sure exist. I echo Mike, no disrespect to Dan, I have only admiration for him. But that schedule simply is not fair in my opinion. I will check Mike's suggestion out now as well. WEEK ONE Bonner Spring @ Kangaroos Bears @ Brazil Dublin @ Left Jab Hebron @ Ice Tea Cawkney @Hoosier Chilton @ Juggernaught Tile Hill @ Stockholm McCune @ Long Island Tomato @ Muckboys 420th @ Nobodies Undisputed @Oakland Punching @ Mexivilles WEEK TWO Stockholm @ Kangaroos Long Island @ Brazil Muckboys @ Left Jab Nobodies @ Ice Tea Oakland @ Hoosier Mexivilles @ Juggernaut Bonner Springs @ Tile Hill Bears @ McCune Dublin @ Tomato Hebron @ 420th Cawkney @ Undisputed Chilton @ Punching WEEK THREE Kangaroos @ Tile Hill Brazil @ McCune Left Jab @ Tomato Ice Tea @ 420th Hoosier @ Undisputed Juggernaut @ Punching Stockholm @ Bonner Springs Long Island @ Bears Muckboys @ Dublin Nobodies @ Hebron Oakland @ Cawkney Mixevilles @ Chilton WEEK FOUR Bonner Springs v. Bears (neutral site) Kangaroos v Tomato (neutral site) Stockholm v Long Island (neutral site) Tile Hill v Muckboys (neutral site) Brazil v Left Jab (neutral site) Dublin v McCune (neutral site) Hebron v Mexivilles (neutral site) Ice Tea v Cawkney (neutral site) Nobodies v Undisputed (neutral site) Punching v Juggernaut (neutral site) 420th v Hoosier (neutral site) Chilton v Oakland (neutral site) WEEK FIVE Kangaroos @ Bonner Springs Brazil @ Bears Left Jab @ Dublin Ice Tea @ Hebron Hoosier @ Cawkney Juggernaut @ Chilton Stockholm @ Tile Hill Long Island @ McCune Muckboys @ Tomato Nobodies @ 420th Oakland @ Undisputed Mexivilles @ Punching WEEK SIX Stockholm v Tile Hill (neutral site) Long Island v McCune (neutral site) Muckboys v Tomato (neutral site) Nobodies v 420th (neutral site) Oakland v Undisputed (neutral site) Mexivilles v Punching (neutral site) Bonner Springs v Kangaroos (neutral site) Bears v Brazil (neutral site) Dublin v Left Jab (neutral site) Hebron v Ice Tea (neutral site) Cawkney v Hoosier (neutral site) Chilton v Juggernaut (neutral site) WEEK SEVEN Kangaroos v Stockholm (neutral site) Brazil v Long Island (neutral site) Left Jab v Muckboys (neutral site) Ice Tea v Nobodies (neutral site) Hoosier v Oakland (neutral site) Juggernaut v Mexivilles (neutral site) Tile Hill v Bonner Spring (neutral site) McCune v Bears (neutral site) Tomato v Dublin (neutral site) 420th v Hebron (neutral site) Undisputed v Cawkney (neutral site) Punching v Chilton (neutral site) WEEK EIGHT Tile Hill @ Kangaroos McCune @ Brazil Tomato @ Left Jab 420th @ Ice Tea Undisputed @ Hoosier Punching @ Juggernaut Bonner Springs @ Stockholm Bears @ Long Island Dublin @ Muckboys Hebron @ Nobodies Cawkney @ Oakland Chilton @ Mexiveilles WEEK NINE Tile Hill @ Bonner Springs McCune @ Bears Tomato @ Dublin 420th @ Hebron Undisputed @ Cawkney Punching @ Chilton Kangaroos @ Stockholm Brazil @ Long Island Left Jab @ Muckboys Ice Tea @ Nobodies Hoosier @ Oakland Juggernaut @ Mexivilles WEEK TEN Kangaroos v Tile Hill (neutral site) Brazil v McCune (neutral site) Left Jab v Tomato (neutral site) Ice Tea v 420th (neutral site) Hoosier v Undisputed (neutral site) Juggernaut v Punching (neutral site) Stockholm v Bonner Springs (neutral site) Long Island v Bears (neutral site) Muckboys v Dublin (neutral site) Nobodies v Hebron (neutral site) Oakland v Cawkney (neutral site) Mexivilles v Chilton (neutral site)
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kansas
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This is probably just self-interest speaking, but I'm for a balanced schedule as well. The balance should be toward division and conference matchups, and "strength of schedule" should not be much of a consideration, if any. The UTBA season schedule should not be about who made the playoffs the previous season or who is the stronger team, imho. There are certain teams a team should always face (Conference and division members) and a rotating list of non-conference/division opponents that changes with each season, which is scheduled randomly.
I'll also chime in with others in saying I appreciate everyone's work on the league, including Dan's. While my preference is for a balanced schedule more like what Mike just proposed, I'll happily abide by whatever we end up with. |
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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While I prefer more divisional match ups, I like the variety of Mike's schedule and far prefer it to the one in place.
Weighting schedules based on prior performance just makes no sense to me in a league where everyone is on equal footing. Edit: One other thing - we already have the draft as a normalizing factor. With that and a schedule such as the current proposal, we may well have the best teams frequently not making the playoffs or at the very least, enough of them not making the playoffs such that blow outs become the norm.
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: louisville
Posts: 14,941
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Call it baseball old school .. I prefer the two conferences only meet in all star and championship matches. I also prefer the schedule being weighted to division matchups. So that's why I went with home/away in the division and 4 matches with the conference and no Intraconference play
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All Star Starter
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Coventry, England.
Posts: 1,814
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Absolutely no change with my squad. Most of mine are at prime, or soon will be, and I want to see how they do.
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 3,481
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I am in agreement with those of you above who believe past season results should have 0 influence on this years schedule. I realize its very hard to create a good accurate schedule, the only thing that really scares me is that(sorry expansion teams) the expansion teams are lucky to not give up 50 points every week. If two teams are similiar in talent and one team faces two expansion teams and the other 0, the team that faced 2 expansion teams will likely finish ahead of the other team by 40-60 points. I like Mike's idea myself but am really open to anything.
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