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Old 02-11-2005, 08:28 PM   #3661
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Old 02-11-2005, 09:07 PM   #3662
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In the AL, how about Bobby Johnson? Kress should win it, but Bobby is certainly doing his best to keep him from getting another Triple Crown (although Boston fans refuse to acknowledge it. Lutske should have been the batting champ )
We all know Morris won the batting title. One of those things that needn't be said. Like we all know Lajoie really beat Cobb for that Chrysler.
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Old 02-12-2005, 08:33 AM   #3663
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And check out Dennis Ward's Rookie Mistake, and the Tale of Grumpy Allen while you're there. It's a hoot!
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Great read, as always, Matt.
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September 1951

On September 16th, the Athletics found themselves one win away from clinching their first pennant since 1932. That was also the day they opened a home series against the hottest team in baseball - the Detroit Tigers. Since firing manager Arden Killbreath on August 15th, the Tigers had gone an astronomical 24-5. In their first game, Roy Wolfe allowed just 1 run off 5 hits as he and the Tigers defeated the suddenly human Ellis Weeks (20-7, 2.42) by a 6-1 score. In their second game, Detroit scored 5 early runs off Tad Zonkas and went on to win 5-3. The final game of the series belonged to Philly, though, as 22-year-old Terry Mart tossed a 3-hit, 1-run gem to send the A's back to the World Series for the first time since the days of Ben Baum, Slap Hertzog, Bull Zegri, Torrin Cole, Sal Rossi and Ahrend Nagel.

In the NL, things were far less simple. The Cardinals started off the month slow, winning just 5 of their first 13 games. During that stretch, they even dropped 2 of 3 to the league leading Giants. Meanwhile, New York went 6-7 over that same stretch, gaining only a single game on St. Louis. With exactly two weeks left in the season, the Giants swept Brooklyn while St. Louis countered with a sweep of Philadelphia. That's when things really got interesting.

The Cards won 2 of 3 from Pittsburgh, but the headlines were being made in Boston. There the downtrodden Braves declared that the NL pennant would not be won in their hometown unless it was by them. So they proceeded to sweep the mighty Giants in a 4-game set. No game was won by more than 2 runs and all four were thrilling nail-biters. A bench-clearing incident even took place in the bottom of the 9th in a tie ballgame after Braves catcher Bud Moore was hit by relief pitcher Rich Lietz. That game ultimately lasted 19 innings! The end result was a dead-heat between St. Louis and New York atop the National League.

And who else would these teams face in the final series of the season but each other! That's right, a three game series in New York to decide both teams' fate. In the first game, New York hit Grady Ingram hard en route to a 6-2 win. The Giants went into game two knowing they could clinch the pennant with a win. The score was knotted at 3 until a solo homerun by oft-traded first baseman Jack Veney gave the Cards a 4-3 lead. Then, with one out in the bottom of the 8th, a Nick Pursell double sparked a New York rally. Ervin Thompson walked, which brought the slugger known in New York as Roadhouse to the plate.

Joe Rodabaugh, the 6'4" leftfielder from Galveston, Texas, was a rough and rowdy sort - loved by teammates, adored by fans, eager to give writers something juicy to quote, but most of all he was feared by pitchers. Especially at home in the Polo Grounds. On a 2-1 count, young Matt Keyes Jr., who had already thrown 110 pitches, served up a fastball that Rodabaugh hammered 451 feet into right-center field to give New York a 6-4 lead. The Cardinals looked defeated after that blast, and their three top hitters - Ogden Wing, Mike Fellner and Herman Dunkel - were retired by New York closer Jacob Walensky on just 12 pitches, bringing the World Series back to New York for the first time since the Giants lost to the Red Sox in 1944.

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Sep 2: Joe Rodabaugh hit his 33rd homerun of the year just moments after learning he was a new father. The shot in the 8th inning drew the Giants to within a run of Brooklyn, 2-1. Brooklyn pitcher Merl Welsh then buzzed a fastball near the head of the next batter, catcher Ken Redman, evoking a warning from umpire Al Barlick. Barlick had earlier ejected Brooklyn manager Jean-Francios Arsenault in the 5th inning when he objected to a call. Dodgers hitting coach and acting manager Charlie Mathews then cleared his bench to avoid any more thumbings. The Giants won the game on a 2-run double by Tom Howard with one out in the bottom of the 9th. The Dodgers were suspicious of their losses at the Polo Grounds this season, and later there were revelations about signs being flashed to Giant batters from the CF scoreboard. Did it happen? Rodabaugh later remarked, "as for my home run and the sign stealing, this has been much talked about and I would prefer not to comment." On the Dodgers side, Arsenault concluded, "you bet it happened."

Sep 20: The owners elected National League President Ford Frick as the 3rd commissioner of baseball for a 7-year term at $65,000 per year. Warren Giles withdrew on a vote deadlock to open the way for Frick, who had been NL president since 1934.

Sep 13: It was "George Ward Night" in New York and the Giants manager was given an oil portrait identifying him as the manager of the "National League Champions 1951." The Cubs had other ideas, defeating New York 7-1 and taking 2 games in the series.


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American League Standings 
  
Philadelphia (A) 99 55 .643 -
Detroit          90 64 .584 9.0
Boston (A)       89 65 .578 10.0
Cleveland        72 82 .468 27.0 
Washington       71 83 .461 28.0
Chicago (A)      70 84 .455 29.0 
New York (A)     67 87 .435 32.0
St. Louis (A)    58 96 .377 41.0 
 
National League Standings 
 
New York (N)     89 65 .578 -
St. Louis (N)    86 68 .558 3.0
Chicago (N)      83 71 .539 6.0
Cincinnati       82 72 .532 7.0 
Boston (N)       81 73 .526 8.0  
Pittsburgh       71 83 .461 18.0
Philadelphia (N) 67 87 .435 22.0
Brooklyn         57 97 .370 32.0
World Series

The A's might be bigger favorites if they had not been so hit-and-miss in the last few weeks of the season. Their rotation looks stronger than New York's, but the offenses are about equal in potency. The one thing Philly has that New York does not is a combined 95 stolen bases from two players - Hans Habermehl (69) and Hershel Cooley (26). Habermehl even hit a career high 17 homers this season, giving the A's three players with 17 or more. Their top slugger is catcher Hershel Lee who pounded 36.

The Giants feature the same number of hitters with 17+ homeruns (3), but they are led by two sluggers - Joe Rodabaugh, who led the NL with 39 homeruns and 126 RBI, and first baseman Ervin Thompson. Those two provide a troubling combo for pitchers as Rodabugh hits right-handed and Thomson is a lefty. However, Shibe Park in Philly is notoriously tough on lefty power hitters, thanks to a 50-foot wall in right field.

My Prediction: Neither team was strong in September, but expect both of them to play fiery baseball in the Series. Both teams have something to prove at home. The A's have forever lived in the shadow of the mighty Phillies, while the Giants have had two dynasties to contend with in New York - the Yankees of the 20s-30s and the Dodgers of the 30s-40s. These are two evenly matched teams but a potentially dominant 3-man rotation, that includes two POY candidates in Bob Stevens and Ellis Weeks, gives the A's an edge. I expect the A's to win in 6 games.


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Athletics
2B Hans Habermehl, .311, 17 HR, 71 RBI, 69 SB
RF Peaches Badeau, .321, 12 HR, 90 RBI
3B Bud Ayers, .337, 20 HR, 96 RBI
C Hershel Lee, .288, 36 HR, 115 RBI
1B Sal Poulos, .281, 76 RBI
CF Todd Walker, .267, 10 HR, 70 RBI
LF Hershel Cooley, .298, 49 RBI, 26 SB
SS Bob Moussette, .226, 31 RBI

SP #1 - Bob Stevens, 20-6, 2.76, 215 K
SP #2 - Ellis Weeks, 21-7, 2.58, 128 K
SP #3 - Tad Zonkas, 15-14, 3.46, 106 K

Emergency Starter - Terry Mart, 7-7, 3.04, 41 K
Closer - Billy Crowell, 10-6, 19 Sv, 4.36 ERA

Other Noteable Players:
IF Hal Breault Jr, .276, 30 RBI
SS Daniel Schmoll, .187 (who should start against the lefty Pond)


Giants
CF Artie Albrecht, .301, 71 RBI
LF Johnny Champagne, .334, 73 RBI
2B Tom Howard, .298, 12 HR, 88 RBI
3B Nick Pursell, .311, 18 HR, 91 RBI, 18 SB
1B Ervin Thompson, .279, 30 HR, 99 RBI
RF Joe Rodabaugh, .243, 39 HR, 126 RBI
C Ken Redman, .281 in 192 AB
SS George Roth, .235, 36 RBI

SP #1 - Walter Pond, 23-12, 3.37, 110 K
SP #2 - Garland Sisk, 18-12, 3.50, 140 K
SP #3 - Jack Schoonover, 16-14, 3.67, 99 K

Emergency Starter - Tommy Light, 13-14, 4.15, 55 K
Closer - Jacob Walensky, 4-2, 18 Sv, 4.12 ERA

Other Noteable Players:
C Glen Vickers, .258, 39 RBI
RF Stu Cripps, .307, 12 HR, 46 RBI
LF Howard Olszewki, .286, 26 RBI
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Old 02-12-2005, 06:25 PM   #3666
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How cool is it that the Giants win the pennant in 1951, in a very close race, with huge contributions from a new black ballplayer? I tell you, this league is eery.
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Actually, thank jdw for that one... It's his. I just posted it.

It was a fun read!
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Old 02-12-2005, 09:38 PM   #3668
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> How about that Clarence Schnaubert?? When
> I slotted him in as my 4th starter this year, I
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> 20 wins. Can you say Rookie of the Year?

I mentioned this in the chat last night:

NL Pitching Single Season Records:
Rookie Wins: 23, Walter Pond (1951, New York (N))

AL Pitching Single Season Records:
Rookie Wins: 22, Clarence Schnaubert (1951, Boston (A))

Pretty amazing that both records are broken in the same year. Both topped the prior TWB Rookie mark of 21 set by Guy Muir of the 1939 Giants.

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The real question is how the hell Shnawbutt won that many. His 3-6-6 ratings are rather underwhelming. Can you think of anyone who has had this much success with such poor ratings?
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The real question is how the hell Shnawbutt won that many. His 3-6-6 ratings are rather underwhelming. Can you think of anyone who has had this much success with such poor ratings?
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What were his ratings? According to CatoBase, his career was less than impressive, and he never had a season as good as Schnaubert's in '51.
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WORLD SERIES BOX SCORES UPDATED


WORLD SERIES

New York's Walter Pond and Philadelphia's Bob Stevens went toe-to-toe in a pitcher's duel that limited both teams to just 1 run for the first 7 innings. Then in the bottom of the 8th, Pond gave up a walk, three consecutive singles and a sac fly to give Philly a 3-1 lead. In the 9th, the Giants countered with 2 runs of their own, thanks to back-to-back doubles from SS George Roth and pinch hitter Stu Cripps followed by a RBI single from 1B Carlos Hulse. With a runner on 1st and no outs in the bottom of the 9th, Jacob Walensky entered the game. He got Sal Poulos to ground out, moving the runner to 2nd. But then CF Todd Walker hit a clutch single to win the game.

Giants 3 - Athletics 4


The next day saw another pitching duel, this time between New York's Garland Sisk and Philadelphia's Ellis Weeks. A Todd Walker homer gave the A's a 1-0 lead in the 4th, but thanks to an error and a wild pitch, a Johnny Champagne single tied the score in the 5th. The score remained 1-1 until Jacob Walensky once again found himself coming into the game with a runner on 1st and no outs in the bottom of the 9th. Hans Habermehl grounded into a force out at 2nd, but the speedy "Ace" stole second and moved to 3rd one pitch later thanks to a passed ball. Peaches Badeau hit a hard grounder to the pitcher, but Walensky couldn't handle it, and Habermehl blazed home for the winning run.

Giants 1 - Athletics 2


Back home in New York, the Giants unloaded on Philly's Tad Zonkas, hitting 4 homeruns that accounted for 5 runs in the first 5 innings. After allowing two 1st inning runs, Giants starter Jack Schoonover sailed the rest of the way to a 8-2 win.

Athletics 2 - Giants 8


Pond and Stevens locked up in another great game. This time the day belonged to Pond, who allowed 1 run on just 4 hits. In the top of the 8th, the A's scored a run to narrow the score to 2-1. Then with 2 runners on base and 2 outs, Pond got LF Hershel Cooley to ground out and end the inning.

Athletics 1 - Giants 3


The bats showed up on this day, especially the bat of A's catcher Hershel Lee who pounded 2 homeruns. His first shot came in the 4th, and his homer in the 5th gave Philly a 5-4 lead. Then with a runner on 2nd and 2 outs in the 7th, Weeks coughed up 4 straight singles. Reliever Cal Grainger came in a promptly allowed three more consecutive singles. That added up to a 6-run inning as New York took a 3-2 series lead.

Athletics 5 - Giants 10


With their backs against the wall, the A's came out and scored a run in the 2nd and another in the 3rd off Schoonover to take a 2-0 lead. Zonkas allowed an unearned run in the 6th, but that was all the Giants could muster as Zonkas made up for his poor Game 3 performance with 8 2/3 innings of 3-hit baseball.

Giants 1 - Athletics 2


This all came down to Game 7 and both teams had their aces on the mound. This 3rd rematch between Pond and Stevens was all the sports world had talked about since the exciting Game 6 ended. This game didn't quite live up to its billing though, as Pond lasted just 3 2/3 innings. During that time he allowed 8 runs off 9 hits and 5 walks. After that, the A's never looked back as they went on to end the longest World Championship draught of any major league team - 45 years!

Giants 2 - Athletics 9


Bob Stevens was named World Series MVP, going 1-1 with a 1.80 ERA and 18 K in 25 IP.
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1951 Postseason

World Series Champs - Philadelphia Athletics 6th Pennant, 2nd WS Title - 1st since 1906!!

NL Champs - New York Giants 8th Pennant


AL BOY: Ray Kress, DET, .341, 44 HR, 127 RBI - He came within 3 RBI of winning consecutive Triple Crowns!!
NL BOY: Ken Chaucer, BSN, .313, 38 HR, 119 RBI

AL POY: Ellis Weeks, PHA, 21-7, 2.58 ERA, 128 K, 103 BB - He is the first black player ever to win a POY!
NL POY: Grady Ingram, STL, 24-11, 2.88 ERA, 209 K, 73 BB


NL POY: Walter Pond, NYG, 23-12, 3.37 ERA, 110 K, 111 BB

AL ROY: Nippy Schaubert, BOS, 22-8, 3.78 ERA, 54 K, 115 BB
NL ROY: Walter Pond, NYG, 23-12, 3.37 ERA, 110 K, 111 BB - This makes 4 of the past 5 years that a former Negro Leaguer has won a ROY!

AL AVG: Ray Kress, DET, .341
NL AVG: Ogden Wing, STL, .361

AL HR: Ray Kress, DET, 44
NL HR: Joe Rodabaugh, NYG, 39

AL RBI: Bobby Johnson, BOS, 130
NL RBI: Joe Rodabaugh, NYG, 126

AL SB: Hans Habermehl, PHA, 69
NL SB: Ben Cook, STL, 60

AL ERA: Cotton Simson, SLA, 2.43
NL ERA: Grady Ingram, STL, 2.88

AL Wins: Hal Andrew, DET, 23
NL Wins: Grady Ingram, STL, 24

AL K's: Cotton Simson, SLA, 221
NL K's: Grady Ingram, STL, 209 - He won the pitcher's Triple Crown!

AL Saves: Billy Hyberg, BOS, 27
NL Saves: Robert Datoli, CIN, 24


Major League Records (if old record was long-standing, it's listed in parenthesis)

ML - 107 K's (Batter), Skeeter Schaldemose, BOS
ML - 23 Rookie Wins, Walter Pond, NYG

League Records

AL - 22 Rookie Wins, Nippy Schnaubert, BOS (20, Kyle Osio, PHA, 1929)

Team Records

BSN - 94 Games, Zachariah Smith
BSN - 20 Saves, Bob Rustia

BKN - 60 Games, Thomas Collaco

CHA - 192 K's (Pitcher), Gene Masarech (185, Andrew Murphy, 1916)

CHN - 116 Walks (Batter), John Barton

CIN - 24 Saves, Robert Datoli

NYA - 21 Rookie HR, Arnie Stewart
NYA - 68 Games, Oscar Villalpando

PHA - 36 Homeruns, Hershel Lee
PHA - 69 Steals, Hans Habermehl
PHA - 75 Games, Billy Crowell
PHA - 19 Saves, Billy Crowell

PHI - 11 K's in One Game, John Nolting

PIT - 27 Homeruns, Ben Giordano (Tied, 27, Sam Kass, 1931)
PIT - 11 Rookie HR, Moses Bottoms (10, Scott Podlasek, 1901)

STL - 111 Walks, Ben Cook (Tied, 111, Chuck Harris, 1924)

WSH - 25 Saves, Bernard Client


Milestones

200 Homeruns - Chuck Rauch, CHN
200 Homeruns - Herman Dunkel, STL

2000 K's - Cotton Simson, SLA


Gold Gloves

1951 American League Winners

Pitcher: Tom Zonneveld, NYA
Catcher: Thomas Kruyt, SLA
First Base: Albert Hippard, CLE
Second Base: John Valcarcel, BSN
Third Base: Bud Ayers, PHA
Shortstop: David Castaneda, DET
Leftfield: Tom Foraker, WSH
Centerfield: Todd Walker, PHA
Rightfield: Ben Hargey, BOS


1951 National League Winners

Pitcher: Bryce Ostrander, BKN
Catcher: Chuck Rauch, CHN
First Base: Ted McMurray, CIN
Second Base: Maurice Goza, CIN
Third Base: Nick Pursell, NYG
Shortstop: Edwin Keesaer, CIN
Leftfield: Bob Ferry, BKN
Centerfield: Mark Silcox, BKN - 2 straight!
Rightfield: Chris Hulliberger, CHN


September Awards:

American League-Pitcher of the Month:
Bob Stevens (PHA)!
He had a record of 4-1 in 6 games started, with an ERA of 2.96.

American League-Batter of the Month:
John Valcarcel (CLE)!
He batted .451 in 82 AB, with 3 homers and 25 RBI.

National League-Pitcher of the Month:
Denny Evers (CHN)!
He had a record of 4-0 in 5 games started, with an ERA of 1.66 and 1 shutouts.

National League-Batter of the Month:
Ervin Thompson (NYG)!
He batted .382 in 76 AB, with 8 homers and 24 RBI.
Joe Rodabaugh hits a 506-foot homerun!!

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Sorry, I had to mention this.

For the first time ever, I ran across a picture that Matt uses in TWB. In my historical replay I'm doing on my computer, this pitcher named Lloyd Brown just won POM for May 1942. When I saw the picture, I knew I recognized him. And I did. Matt, congrats for going so long finding obscure pictures; one day I klnew I'd catch you. Ladies and gentlemen, Lloyd Brown:
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Franchise Histories

The Athletics did what some thought might never be done in their lifetime - win their first World Series since 1906. Does anyone remember Ricky "Bird Legs" Childerhose or Donny Engel or Terrence Bakula or Greg Heiderich or Bosco Erlewine or "Brickhead" Bill Horton? Well that was the core of the 1906 A's... 45 years ago! Congradulations Philly.

Now the longest World Championship draught falls squarely on the shoulders of the Pirates, who have not won one since 1909. They also hold the longest pennant draught, having not won one of those since 1912.

What is even more amazing is that the longest pennant draught in the AL now belongs to the Yankees. Yes, the once mighty Yanks. They haven't won a pennant since 1940. However, every AL team except the A's won a pennant in the decade of the 40's.

Meanwhile, people in Brooklyn are getting mighty restless. They set a franchise worst with their 5th consecutive losing season in 1951. Some people are calling for J.F. Arsenault's head. The first decade of baseball (1901-10) is the only decade where the Dodgers had more losing seasons than winning seasons. They are also one of only 2 teams that won a World Series in 4 consecutive decades. Can you guess who the other team is? Not the Yankees. Not the Phillies. But the Senators. Washington and Brooklyn have been very consistent franchises, but both are having a rough time while rebuilding. Something had better be done in Brooklyn soon, because their fans don't like seeing the Giants steal the local spotlight.

BLUE - Won World Series
GREEN - Won Pennant but No WS Played
BLACK - Won Pennant

Boston Red Sox - 5 Pennants, 3-2 in WS, Last Pennant (1949), Last WS Title (1945)
Most Wins 101 (1945), Most Losses 93 (1936)
Winning Seasons 15, Losing Seasons 32, .500 Seasons 4
Longest Winning Streak: 3 Seasons (1943-45, 1947-1949)
Longest Losing Streak: 12 Seasons (1906-17)
1900-10: 2-8
1911-20: 2-7-1 - 1918
1921-30: 2-5-3
1931-40: 2-8
1941-50: 6-4 - 1943, 1944, 1945, 1949
1951-60: 1-0
Last 10 Seasons 7-3
Last 5 Seasons 4-1

Chicago White Sox - 7 Pennants, 1-6 in WS, Last Pennant (1950), Last WS Title (1920)
Most Wins 102 (1920), Most Losses 91 (1910)
Winning Seasons 26, Losing Seasons 25
Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1913-21)
Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1904-12)
1900-10: 1-9 - 1903
1911-20: 8-2 - 1917, 1919, 1920
1921-30: 6-4 - 1930
1931-40: 5-5 - 1938
1941-50: 6-4 - 1950
1951-60: 0-1
Last 10 Seasons 5-5
Last 5 Seasons 3-2

Cleveland Indians - 6 Pennants, 3-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1942), Last WS Title (1942)
Most Wins 107 (1910), Most Losses 101 (1945)
Winning Seasons 22, Losing Seasons 26, .500 Seasons 3
Longest Winning Streak: 13 Seasons (1906-18)
Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1927-32)
1900-10: 6-4 - 1907, 1910
1911-20: 9-1 - 1914, 1915, 1916
1921-30: 2-8
1931-40: 3-5-2
1941-50: 2-7-1 - 1942
1951-60: 0-1
Last 10 Seasons 2-7-1
Last 5 Seasons 0-4-1

Detroit Tigers - 2 Pennants, 1-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1948), Last WS Win (1928)
Most Wins 102 (1948), Most Losses 96 (1941)
Winning Seasons 23, Losing Seasons 28
Longest Winning Streak: 7 Seasons (1945-Present)
Longest Losing Streak: 13 Seasons (1932-1944)
1900-10: 5-5
1911-20: 3-7
1921-30: 6-4 - 1928
1931-40: 1-9
1941-50: 6-4 - 1948
1951-60: 1-0
Last 10 Seasons 7-3
Last 5 Seasons 5-0

New York Yankees - 14 Pennants, 8-6 in WS, Last Pennant (1940), Last WS Win (1940)
Most Wins 103 (1923), Most Losses 95 (1946)
Winning Seasons 27, Losing Seasons 22, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1930-1941)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1915-21, 1943-49)
1900-10: 7-3 - 1905, 1908, 1909
1911-20: 3-7 - 1911, 1912
1921-30: 5-4-1 - 1923, 1927
1931-40: 10-0 - 1931, 1933, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1939, 1940
1941-50: 2-7-1
1951-60: 0-1
Last 10 Seasons 1-8-1
Last 5 Seasons 1-4

Philadelphia Athletics - 6 Pennants, 2-4 in WS, Last Pennant (1951), Last WS Title (1951)
Most Wins 99 (1951), Most Losses 97 (1917)
Winning Seasons 25, Losing Seasons 25, .500 Seasons 1
Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1925-33)
Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1912-21)
1900-10: 8-2 - 1906
1911-20: 1-9
1921-30: 8-2 - 1925, 1926, 1929
1931-40: 4-5-1 - 1932
1941-50: 3-7
1951-60: 1-0 - 1951
Last 10 Seasons 4-6
Last 5 Seasons 2-3

St. Louis Browns - 5 Pennants, 1-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1946), Last WS Title (1922)
Most Wins 93 (1946), Most Losses 98 (1930)
Winning Seasons 19, Losing Seasons 30, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 3 Seasons (1942-1944)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1910-16)
1900-10: 5-5 - 1901, 1902, 1904
1911-20: 2-7-1
1921-30: 4-6 - 1922
1931-40: 4-5-1
1941-50: 4-6 - 1946
1951-60: 0-1
Last 10 Seasons 4-6
Last 5 Seasons 0-5

Washington Senators - 6 Pennants, 4-2 in WS, Last Pennant (1947), Last WS Title (1941)
Most Wins 93 (1941), Most Losses 94 (1950)
Winning Seasons 26, Losing Seasons 23, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1936-1947)
Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1927-32)
1900-10: 3-6-1
1911-20: 4-6 - 1913
1921-30: 5-5 - 1921, 1924
1931-40: 7-2-1 - 1937
1941-50: 7-3 - 1941, 1947
1951-60: 0-1
Last 10 Seasons 6-4
Last 5 Seasons 1-4



Boston Braves - 4 Pennants, 2-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1931), Last WS Title (1931)
Most Wins 105 (1928), Most Losses 102 (1915)
Winning Seasons 20, Losing Seasons 29, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1930-1938)
Longest Losing Streak: 14 Seasons (1914-27)
1900-10: 6-4 - 1904, 1910
1911-20: 1-9
1921-30: 2-8 - 1928
1931-40: 8-1-1 - 1931
1941-50: 2-7-1
1951-60: 1-0
Last 10 Seasons 3-6-1
Last 5 Seasons 3-1-1

Brooklyn Dodgers - 7 Pennants, 4-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1943), Last WS Title (1943)
Most Wins 94 (1943), Most Losses 97 (1951)
Winning Seasons 30, Losing Seasons 19, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 13 Seasons (1934-46)
Longest Losing Streak: 5 Seasons (1947-Present)
1900-10: 3-7
1911-20: 7-2-1 - 1919
1921-30: 7-3 - 1926
1931-40: 7-2-1 - 1934, 1935, 1939, 1940
1941-50: 6-4 - 1943
1951-60: 0-1
Last 10 Seasons 6-4
Last 5 Seasons 1-4

Chicago Cubs - 6 Pennants, 3-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1938), Last WS Title (1938)
Most Wins 101 (1938), Most Losses 97 (1925)
Winning Seasons 29, Losing Seasons 22
Longest Winning Streak: 14 Seasons (1901-14)
Longest Losing Streak: 8 Seasons (1943-1950)
1900-10: 10-0 - 1905
1911-20: 7-3 - 1913, 1917
1921-30: 3-7
1931-40: 7-3 - 1936, 1937, 1938
1941-50: 1-9
1951-60: 1-0
Last 10 Seasons 2-8
Last 5 Seasons 1-4

Cincinnati Reds - 2 Pennants, 1-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1947), Last WS Title (1947)
Most Wins 92 (1927), Most Losses 95 (1906)
Winning Seasons 26, Losing Seasons 24, .500 Seasons 1
Longest Winning Streak: 11 Seasons (1913-23)
Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1933-42)
1900-10: 5-5
1911-20: 9-1 - 1920
1921-30: 4-6
1931-40: 2-8
1941-50: 5-4-1 - 1947
1951-60: 1-0
Last 10 Seasons 6-3-1
Last 5 Seasons 2-2-1

New York Giants - 8 Pennants, 2-6 in WS, Last Pennant (1951), Last WS Title (1921)
Most Wins 95 (1944), Most Losses 97 (1929)
Winning Seasons 23, Losing Seasons 24, .500 Seasons 4
Longest Winning Streak: 6 Seasons (1918-23)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1908-14)
1900-10: 1-8-1 - 1907
1911-20: 5-5 - 1918
1921-30: 5-5 - 1921, 1922
1931-40: 5-3-2
1941-50: 6-3-1 - 1941, 1942, 1944
1951-60: 1-0 - 1951
Last 10 Seasons 6-3-1
Last 5 Seasons 3-2

Philadelphia Phillies - 13 Pennants, 9-2 in WS, Last Pennant (1949), Last WS Title (1949)
Most Wins 104 (1949), Most Losses 98 (1938)
Winning Seasons 26, Losing Seasons 22, .500 Seasons 3
Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1924-1935)
Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1915-23)
1900-10: 7-2-1 - 1901, 1902, 1903
1911-20: 1-9
1921-30: 7-3 - 1925, 1927, 1929, 1930
1931-40: 5-4-1 - 1932, 1933
1941-50: 6-3-1 - 1945, 1946, 1948, 1949
1951-60: 0-1
Last 10 Seasons 6-3-1
Last 5 Seasons 4-1

Pittsburgh Pirates - 4 Pennants, 1-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1912), Last WS Win (1909)
Most Wins 92 (1908), Most Losses 103 (1928)
Winning Seasons 14, Losing Seasons 36, .500 Seasons 1
Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1908-12)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1913-19, 1931-1937)
1900-10: 4-6 - 1908, 1909
1911-20: 2-8 - 1911, 1912
1921-30: 2-7-1
1931-40: 2-8
1941-50: 3-7
1951-60: 0-1
Last 10 Seasons 3-7
Last 5 Seasons 1-4

St. Louis Cardinals - 7 Pennants, 3-4 in WS, Last Pennant (1950), Last WS Win (1950)
Most Wins 103 (1915), Most Losses 99 (1936)
Winning Seasons 26, Losing Seasons 21, .500 Seasons 3
Longest Winning Streak: 6 Seasons (1946-Present)
Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1930-39)
1900-10: 3-6-1 - 1906
1911-20: 6-2-2 - 1914, 1915, 1916
1921-30: 8-2 - 1923, 1924
1931-40: 1-9
1941-50: 8-2 - 1950
1951-60: 1-0
Last 10 Seasons 8-2
Last 5 Seasons 5-0


Last Pennant:

1912 - PIT
1931 - BSN
1938 - CHN
1940 - NYA
1942 - CLE
1943 - BKN
1946 - SLA
1947 - WSH, CIN
1948 - DET
1949 - BOS, PHI
1950 - CHA, STL
1951 - PHA, NYG

Last World Series Championship:

1909 - PIT
1920 - CHA
1921 - NYG
1922 - SLA
1928 - DET
1931 - BSN
1938 - CHN
1940 - NYA
1941 - WSH
1942 - CLE
1943 - BKN
1945 - BOS
1947 - CIN
1949 - PHI
1950 - STL
1951 - PHA
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Now the longest World Championship draught falls squarely on the shoulders of the Pirates, who have not won one since 1909. They also hold the longest pennant draught, having not won one of those since 1912.
I think you can now safely say that the title of Worst Franchise Ever falls to my Pirates. Not only have we gone the longest without a pennant or a championship, we have the fewest winning seasons (14, just edging out the Red Sox at 15) in history as well. :P

That's okay, it's going to be all the more sweet when we finally break through!
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I think you can now safely say that the title of Worst Franchise Ever falls to my Pirates. Not only have we gone the longest without a pennant or a championship, we have the fewest winning seasons (14, just edging out the Red Sox at 15) in history as well. :P

That's okay, it's going to be all the more sweet when we finally break through!
All true... but the oddest thing is that both the Pirates and Red Sox have more pennants than the Tigers or Reds. Those 2 teams have always been 2nd-5th place teams typically. Often good, but rarely great.
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