Time Warp Baseball - Page 183

DamnYankees · 02-08-2005, 11:27 PM

Well, here are a bunch. I like the default one, which is the txt file. Just change the extension from site.txt to site.css (it won't let you upload a css file). My personal two favorite are the site.txt and the Baseball Reference one. But whichever you like, these are just some other options.

DamnYankees · 02-08-2005, 11:59 PM

Also, not to rock the boat, but why did you use Cato 6.1.2 instead of 6.1.4?

m0ng00se · 02-09-2005, 08:12 PM

Tigers COACHING CHANGE part 3

With my best Vince McMahon impersonation, "Killbreath..... YOU'RRRRE FIIIRRRRED!!!!!!!"

OK, maybe not that enthusiastic but I'm officially giving Killbreath his walking papers. I really feel terrible that I have to do this but Killbreath has clearly lost the ability to rally the troops.

Recently acquired Pitching Coach Bob Guilderson will manage the rotation while new hitting coach Kid Fite will manage the lineup. This is only temporary until we can name Killbreath's replacement. I definitely hope to have a new manager & bench coach in place before the next draft and spring training.

scprideandms · 02-10-2005, 01:22 PM

Other than Bourbon, Jr (11-15 3.05ERA) the Allen clan is not developing well and Tequila at 37 has been reduced to part time player with his erosion in skills

canadiancreed · 02-10-2005, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scprideandms

Other than Bourbon, Jr (11-15 3.05ERA) the Allen clan is not developing well and Tequila at 37 has been reduced to part time player with his erosion in skills

The one thats with Brooklyn was rushed too fast. While I can see it because well....they're staff was iffy, that's probabyl ruined his chances for being a major star like his counterpart in Chicago

m0ng00se · 02-10-2005, 02:35 PM

Its nice to see Ostrander is pitching fairly well in his rookie year: 3.96 ERA and the lowest WHIP of any Brooklyn starter.

Hopefully he didn't get into too many locker room scraps with my other ancestor Willie Young.

ifspuds · 02-10-2005, 03:20 PM

I keep meaning to apologize for the poor treatment Willie Young got in Pittsburgh, even though I wasn't running the team at the time. It's really no wonder we haven't won a pennant in 40 years.

m0ng00se · 02-10-2005, 03:52 PM

It was very painful to watch his career and nearly as sad to see his "big" little brother waste away on my team. But no need for apologies as it seems like TWB has followed real life much too realistically for the Youngs. Way too many underachievers for sure.

metsgeek · 02-10-2005, 05:18 PM

How about that Clarence Schnaubert?? When I slotted him in as my 4th starter this year, I had no idea that he would even come close to 20 wins. Can you say Rookie of the Year?

DamnYankees · 02-10-2005, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metsgeek

How about that Clarence Schnaubert?? When I slotted him in as my 4th starter this year, I had no idea that he would even come close to 20 wins. Can you say Rookie of the Year?

He's solid. How do you like to pronounce his name? Personally, I like it with a Mayor Quimby accent, pronounced "Shno-bear." Fun guy.

Matt from TN · 02-10-2005, 06:56 PM

I say "Shnaw-bert"... and I always call him Nippy

He may be the biggest surprise of the year for me. I find it hard to believe he can maintain anything like that long term though. May be a 1-year wonder.

metsgeek · 02-10-2005, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamnYankees

He's solid. How do you like to pronounce his name? Personally, I like it with a Mayor Quimby accent, pronounced "Shno-bear." Fun guy.

"Shno-bear" is the official pronunciation, but of course in Beantown, we call him "ShnAAAH-butt"

DamnYankees · 02-10-2005, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metsgeek

"Shno-bear" is the official pronunciation, but of course in Beantown, we call him "ShnAAAH-butt"

Haha. This may be the first time ever a player has two separate "Boston" names, and they both work with the right accent. Incredible. Bill Simmons should write an article about this. Man, my head's getting dizzy from all this...pass me the lick-aaahhhh!

bigjas · 02-10-2005, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scprideandms

Other than Bourbon, Jr (11-15 3.05ERA) the Allen clan is not developing well and Tequila at 37 has been reduced to part time player with his erosion in skills

We treated Boubon Jr. with respect here in Chicago. We didn't rush him, we took our time, and the dividends are paying off. He's pitching better than he did last year, but zero run support is killing him.

Matt from TN · 02-10-2005, 09:05 PM

WEB PAGES UPDATED...

August 1951

The A's went 16-13 in August, losing only a half-game to the Red Sox. However, Detroit went 20-10 to move into a 2nd place tie with Boston. After manager Arden Killbreath was fired on August 15th, the team immediately responded by winning 7 consecutive games and 13 of their final 16 this month. But it could be too little, too late as the A's have all but sewn up their first pennant since 1932. Killbreath was the longest tenured manager in the big leagues. His eight seasons doubled the next longest tenured AL managers, who have been with their teams for 4.

In the NL, the Cardinals briefly moved a game ahead of New York in mid-August, but the Giants quickly took back their lead. The two teams face off twice over the final month of the season, once from Sept 9-11 and again over the final 3 games of the season (Sept 23-25).

Detroit's Ray Kress has quietly positioned himself for a chance at an unprescedented 2nd consecutive Triple Crown. He leads the batting race by .005 points over Philly's Bud Ayers, and he leads the homerun race by 7. But he trails Boston's Bobby Johnson by 2 in the RBI department.

Interestingly enough, brothers Morris and Ben Lutske are 3rd in their respective league's batting races. Morris, a career .344 hitter, is actually having an "off" year by hitting .318, while brother Ben, a .278 lifetime hitter, is having a career year in Chicago, hitting .344 with 16 homeruns.

In The News

Aug 1: Congressman Celler denied the accusation that his committee wants a 3rd major league. He stated that some changes with regard to territorial rights will have to be made.

Aug 6: Lame duck Commissioner Happy Chandler testified in front of the Senate committee, urging that baseball expand out of its eastern area. He added that some owners see sport only as big business.

Aug 7: Senator Edwin C. Johnson backed the reserve clause in his testimony, citing his bill to exempt baseball from antitrust legislation.

Aug 7: Behind the fantastic 3-hit pitching of George Kauffman, the Indians defeated the White Sox 2–0 in front of a Ladies Night crowd of 21,815. The only runs of the game came on a 2-run double by Cleveland SS Victor Estevez with 2 outs in the 6th inning off Gene Masarech.

Aug 13: At Ebbets Field, the Dodgers offered up one of the odder promotions in "Music Depreciation Night," and every fan with a musical instrument was admitted free. 2,426 fans took advantage of the offer, including one with a piano. The Dodgers had a motive in countering the local musicians' union which wanted to silence the non-union Sym-Phoney. Giants starter Tommy Light and Brooklyn's Merl Welsh locked up in a pitchers' duel that saw New York lead 2-1 after 8 innings. That lasted until New York's Ervin Thompson led off the 9th with a solo homerun. Four batters later, pinch hitter Carlos Hulse hit a 2-run shot with 2 outs. Welsh went on to allow 2 more runs off 3 singles and a walk before being lifted for a reliever as Brooklyn fell 7-1.

Aug 21: Baseball owners elected General "Rosey" O'Donnell as the new baseball commissioner, but President Truman overruled the decision. Truman said that O'Donnell was needed in his present job as Air Force commanding general of bombing in Korea.

Aug 26: In another of Bill Veeck's legendary PR stunts, "Fans Managers' Night," the Browns fell to the Yankees 3-0. The Browns coaches would hold up placards for the 21,710 fans in attendance, who would then vote "yes" or "no" on the options given them. Manager Moose Mosley sat in a box behind the dugout with two fans who monitored the voting. Adding to the festivities was Max Patkin, the clown prince of baseball, who coached at 1B for several innings. 32-year-old Mort Hibsch, recently promoted after spending the past 2 2/3 seasons in Triple-A, was voted in as the starting centerfielder in place of Jessie Witt. He went 0-for-1 with 2 walks but made a fantastic defensive play with a runner on in the 8th inning. New York scored a run in the 7th on a solo homerun from Pip Seneca, and they added 2 more runs on a pinch hit 2-run homer by Rich Curtis in the 9th. When the stunt was announced back on August 15th, Yankees manager Ervin Skjerly bitterly denounced it as "farcical."

American League-Pitcher of the Month:
Chris Frays (WSH)!
He had a record of 4-1 in 7 games started, with an ERA of 1.40 and 2 shutouts.

American League-Batter of the Month:
Bobby Johnson (BOS)!
He batted .402 in 92 AB, with 8 homers and 25 RBI.

National League-Pitcher of the Month:
Walter Pond (NYG)!
He had a record of 7-0 in 7 games started, with an ERA of 1.36 and 2 shutouts.

National League-Batter of the Month:
Ted McMurray (CIN)!
He batted .386 in 101 AB, with 8 homers and 26 RBI.

Code:

American League Standings 
  
Philadelphia (A) 86 46 .652 -
Boston (A)       75 57 .568 11.0
Detroit          75 57 .568 11.0
Chicago (A)      62 70 .470 24.0 
Cleveland        61 71 .462 25.0 
New York (A)     61 71 .462 25.0
Washington       60 72 .455 26.0
St. Louis (A)    48 84 .364 38.0 
 
National League Standings 
 
New York (N)     77 54 .588 -
St. Louis (N)    76 56 .576 1.5
Cincinnati       73 60 .549 5.0 
Chicago (N)      68 64 .515 9.5
Boston (N)       64 67 .489 13.0  
Pittsburgh       62 70 .470 15.5
Philadelphia (N) 57 76 .429 21.0
Brooklyn         51 81 .386 26.5

AL AVG
.340 Ray Kress, DET
.335 Bud Ayers, PHA
.318 Morris Lutske, BOS

NL AVG
.355 Ogden Wing, STL
.345 William Perry, PIT
.344 Ben Lutske, CHN

AL HOMERUNS
37 Ray Kress, DET
30 Hershel Lee, PHA
30 Bobby Johnson, BOS

NL HOMERUNS
32 Ken Chaucer, BSN
31 Joe Rodabaugh, NYG
30 Joe Bardo, PHI

AL RBI
112 Bobby Johnson, BOS
110 Ray Kress, DET
95 Hershel Lee, PHA

NL RBI
103 Ken Chaucer, BSN
99 Joe Rodabaugh, NYG
93 Joe Bardo, PHI

AL STEALS
58 Hans Habermehl, PHA
41 Jonny Perly, SLA
20 Hershel Cooley, PHA

NL STEALS
57 Ben Cook, STL
33 Moses Bottoms, PIT
25 Ogden Wing, STL

AL ERA
2.34 Ellis Weeks, PHA
2.48 Cotton Simson, SLA
2.72 Bob Stevens, PHA

NL ERA
2.84 Walter Pond, NYG
2.87 Grady Ingram, STL
3.39 Willard Carte, PHI

AL WINS
20 Hal Andrew, DET
19 Nippy Schnaubert, BOS
17 Ellis Weeks, PHA

NL WINS
21 Grady Ingram, STL
21 Walter Pond, NYG
18 Matt Keyes Jr, STL

AL STRIKEOUTS
183 Cotton Simson, SLA
176 Bob Stevens, PHA
172 Hal Andrew, DET

NL STRIKEOUTS
182 Grady Ingram, STL
158 John Nolting, PHI
141 Randy Liebermann, CHN

AL SAVES
24 Bernard Client, WSH
22 Billy Hyberg, BOS
18 Billy Crowell, PHA

NL SAVES
22 Robert Datoli, CIN
15 Jacob Walensky, NYG
14 Bob Rustia, BSN
14 Thomas Collaco, BKN

Vris · 02-10-2005, 09:12 PM

I would think Chaucer would be the leading candidate for the NL BOTY, but I could be wrong.

If he did win, it would the silver lining in a very disappointing year for the Brave Faithful.

jdw · 02-11-2005, 07:30 PM

> I would think Chaucer would be the
> leading candidate for the NL BOTY,
> but I could be wrong.

Chaucer or Wing. I don't know how the more recent adjustments in OOTP to awards has impacted these type comps. Chaucer has him lapped in BA and OBP, is 6th in SLG, #3 in OPS, #1 in RC and RC/27, #1 in H and R and #3 in SB. Chaucer of course has him lapped in HR and RBI, and is 1-1 in HR & RBI, and has the #1 OPS.

Arrendale won the BOY in 1949 when Kress had him in *everything* of note except for BA. Neither player was on the championship team, so there wasn't a bump there.

Between Chaucer and Wing, Real Life voters would go for Wing. Chaucer already has one. The team isn't in contention. Wing has been one of the best hitters in the NL the last four years, but hasn't won the award. His team won it last year, and are in contention now. Howard, Dunkel, Chaucer, Rauch... seems like each of the top post war hitters in the NL is getting one (Lonny went to the other league to get his). I would expect Groaning to get one in the next couple of years. Of course I expect Chaucer to get another one or two or more at some point as well.

John

Vris · 02-11-2005, 08:14 PM

Might as well give it to Wing.

Matt from TN · 02-11-2005, 09:08 PM

For those who are interested & don't regularly check out the TWB forums, we're simming the final 2 weeks of the season with a very tight NL race live tonight at 10 PM Eastern in our simple new chat room, conveniently linked at our site.

Everyone who's interested is more than welcomed to join!

And check out Dennis Ward's Rookie Mistake, and the Tale of Grumpy Allen while you're there. It's a hoot!

metsgeek · 02-11-2005, 09:22 PM

In the AL, how about Bobby Johnson? Kress should win it, but Bobby is certainly doing his best to keep him from getting another Triple Crown (although Boston fans refuse to acknowledge it. Lutske should have been the batting champ

)

02-09-2005, 08:12 PM	#3643
m0ng00se Major Leagues Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oregon USA Posts: 383	Tigers COACHING CHANGE part 3 With my best Vince McMahon impersonation, "Killbreath..... YOU'RRRRE FIIIRRRRED!!!!!!!" OK, maybe not that enthusiastic but I'm officially giving Killbreath his walking papers. I really feel terrible that I have to do this but Killbreath has clearly lost the ability to rally the troops. Recently acquired Pitching Coach Bob Guilderson will manage the rotation while new hitting coach Kid Fite will manage the lineup. This is only temporary until we can name Killbreath's replacement. I definitely hope to have a new manager & bench coach in place before the next draft and spring training. __________________ Michael AKA m0ng00se - Former TWB Detroit Tigers GM (1946-1964) Pennants: 1948, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1962, 1963, 1964 -- Titles: 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1963

02-10-2005, 01:22 PM	#3644
scprideandms All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N KY, 25 miles from Cincy Posts: 1,314	Other than Bourbon, Jr (11-15 3.05ERA) the Allen clan is not developing well and Tequila at 37 has been reduced to part time player with his erosion in skills __________________ Change your playground + change your playfriends + change your playtoys + change your playtime = Change your life. If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on gitting what you've always gotten.

02-10-2005, 02:35 PM	#3646
m0ng00se Major Leagues Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oregon USA Posts: 383	Its nice to see Ostrander is pitching fairly well in his rookie year: 3.96 ERA and the lowest WHIP of any Brooklyn starter. Hopefully he didn't get into too many locker room scraps with my other ancestor Willie Young. __________________ Michael AKA m0ng00se - Former TWB Detroit Tigers GM (1946-1964) Pennants: 1948, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1962, 1963, 1964 -- Titles: 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1963

02-10-2005, 03:20 PM	#3647
ifspuds Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 2,117	I keep meaning to apologize for the poor treatment Willie Young got in Pittsburgh, even though I wasn't running the team at the time. It's really no wonder we haven't won a pennant in 40 years. __________________ Jeff Watson Former dynasty writer and online league player, now mostly retired

02-10-2005, 03:52 PM	#3648
m0ng00se Major Leagues Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oregon USA Posts: 383	It was very painful to watch his career and nearly as sad to see his "big" little brother waste away on my team. But no need for apologies as it seems like TWB has followed real life much too realistically for the Youngs. Way too many underachievers for sure. __________________ Michael AKA m0ng00se - Former TWB Detroit Tigers GM (1946-1964) Pennants: 1948, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1962, 1963, 1964 -- Titles: 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1963

02-08-2005, 11:59 PM	#3642
DamnYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,644	Also, not to rock the boat, but why did you use Cato 6.1.2 instead of 6.1.4?

02-10-2005, 05:18 PM	#3649
metsgeek Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 5,450	How about that Clarence Schnaubert?? When I slotted him in as my 4th starter this year, I had no idea that he would even come close to 20 wins. Can you say Rookie of the Year? __________________ Commissioner - PBRL - Just finished 2009 109 seasons and still running strong!!!

02-10-2005, 06:56 PM	#3651
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	I say "Shnaw-bert"... and I always call him Nippy He may be the biggest surprise of the year for me. I find it hard to believe he can maintain anything like that long term though. May be a 1-year wonder. __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise

02-10-2005, 09:05 PM	#3655
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	WEB PAGES UPDATED... August 1951 The A's went 16-13 in August, losing only a half-game to the Red Sox. However, Detroit went 20-10 to move into a 2nd place tie with Boston. After manager Arden Killbreath was fired on August 15th, the team immediately responded by winning 7 consecutive games and 13 of their final 16 this month. But it could be too little, too late as the A's have all but sewn up their first pennant since 1932. Killbreath was the longest tenured manager in the big leagues. His eight seasons doubled the next longest tenured AL managers, who have been with their teams for 4. In the NL, the Cardinals briefly moved a game ahead of New York in mid-August, but the Giants quickly took back their lead. The two teams face off twice over the final month of the season, once from Sept 9-11 and again over the final 3 games of the season (Sept 23-25). Detroit's Ray Kress has quietly positioned himself for a chance at an unprescedented 2nd consecutive Triple Crown. He leads the batting race by .005 points over Philly's Bud Ayers, and he leads the homerun race by 7. But he trails Boston's Bobby Johnson by 2 in the RBI department. Interestingly enough, brothers Morris and Ben Lutske are 3rd in their respective league's batting races. Morris, a career .344 hitter, is actually having an "off" year by hitting .318, while brother Ben, a .278 lifetime hitter, is having a career year in Chicago, hitting .344 with 16 homeruns. In The News Aug 1: Congressman Celler denied the accusation that his committee wants a 3rd major league. He stated that some changes with regard to territorial rights will have to be made. Aug 6: Lame duck Commissioner Happy Chandler testified in front of the Senate committee, urging that baseball expand out of its eastern area. He added that some owners see sport only as big business. Aug 7: Senator Edwin C. Johnson backed the reserve clause in his testimony, citing his bill to exempt baseball from antitrust legislation. Aug 7: Behind the fantastic 3-hit pitching of George Kauffman, the Indians defeated the White Sox 2–0 in front of a Ladies Night crowd of 21,815. The only runs of the game came on a 2-run double by Cleveland SS Victor Estevez with 2 outs in the 6th inning off Gene Masarech. Aug 13: At Ebbets Field, the Dodgers offered up one of the odder promotions in "Music Depreciation Night," and every fan with a musical instrument was admitted free. 2,426 fans took advantage of the offer, including one with a piano. The Dodgers had a motive in countering the local musicians' union which wanted to silence the non-union Sym-Phoney. Giants starter Tommy Light and Brooklyn's Merl Welsh locked up in a pitchers' duel that saw New York lead 2-1 after 8 innings. That lasted until New York's Ervin Thompson led off the 9th with a solo homerun. Four batters later, pinch hitter Carlos Hulse hit a 2-run shot with 2 outs. Welsh went on to allow 2 more runs off 3 singles and a walk before being lifted for a reliever as Brooklyn fell 7-1. Aug 21: Baseball owners elected General "Rosey" O'Donnell as the new baseball commissioner, but President Truman overruled the decision. Truman said that O'Donnell was needed in his present job as Air Force commanding general of bombing in Korea. Aug 26: In another of Bill Veeck's legendary PR stunts, "Fans Managers' Night," the Browns fell to the Yankees 3-0. The Browns coaches would hold up placards for the 21,710 fans in attendance, who would then vote "yes" or "no" on the options given them. Manager Moose Mosley sat in a box behind the dugout with two fans who monitored the voting. Adding to the festivities was Max Patkin, the clown prince of baseball, who coached at 1B for several innings. 32-year-old Mort Hibsch, recently promoted after spending the past 2 2/3 seasons in Triple-A, was voted in as the starting centerfielder in place of Jessie Witt. He went 0-for-1 with 2 walks but made a fantastic defensive play with a runner on in the 8th inning. New York scored a run in the 7th on a solo homerun from Pip Seneca, and they added 2 more runs on a pinch hit 2-run homer by Rich Curtis in the 9th. When the stunt was announced back on August 15th, Yankees manager Ervin Skjerly bitterly denounced it as "farcical." American League-Pitcher of the Month: Chris Frays (WSH)! He had a record of 4-1 in 7 games started, with an ERA of 1.40 and 2 shutouts. American League-Batter of the Month: Bobby Johnson (BOS)! He batted .402 in 92 AB, with 8 homers and 25 RBI. National League-Pitcher of the Month: Walter Pond (NYG)! He had a record of 7-0 in 7 games started, with an ERA of 1.36 and 2 shutouts. National League-Batter of the Month: Ted McMurray (CIN)! He batted .386 in 101 AB, with 8 homers and 26 RBI. Code: American League Standings Philadelphia (A) 86 46 .652 - Boston (A) 75 57 .568 11.0 Detroit 75 57 .568 11.0 Chicago (A) 62 70 .470 24.0 Cleveland 61 71 .462 25.0 New York (A) 61 71 .462 25.0 Washington 60 72 .455 26.0 St. Louis (A) 48 84 .364 38.0 National League Standings New York (N) 77 54 .588 - St. Louis (N) 76 56 .576 1.5 Cincinnati 73 60 .549 5.0 Chicago (N) 68 64 .515 9.5 Boston (N) 64 67 .489 13.0 Pittsburgh 62 70 .470 15.5 Philadelphia (N) 57 76 .429 21.0 Brooklyn 51 81 .386 26.5 AL AVG .340 Ray Kress, DET .335 Bud Ayers, PHA .318 Morris Lutske, BOS NL AVG .355 Ogden Wing, STL .345 William Perry, PIT .344 Ben Lutske, CHN AL HOMERUNS 37 Ray Kress, DET 30 Hershel Lee, PHA 30 Bobby Johnson, BOS NL HOMERUNS 32 Ken Chaucer, BSN 31 Joe Rodabaugh, NYG 30 Joe Bardo, PHI AL RBI 112 Bobby Johnson, BOS 110 Ray Kress, DET 95 Hershel Lee, PHA NL RBI 103 Ken Chaucer, BSN 99 Joe Rodabaugh, NYG 93 Joe Bardo, PHI AL STEALS 58 Hans Habermehl, PHA 41 Jonny Perly, SLA 20 Hershel Cooley, PHA NL STEALS 57 Ben Cook, STL 33 Moses Bottoms, PIT 25 Ogden Wing, STL AL ERA 2.34 Ellis Weeks, PHA 2.48 Cotton Simson, SLA 2.72 Bob Stevens, PHA NL ERA 2.84 Walter Pond, NYG 2.87 Grady Ingram, STL 3.39 Willard Carte, PHI AL WINS 20 Hal Andrew, DET 19 Nippy Schnaubert, BOS 17 Ellis Weeks, PHA NL WINS 21 Grady Ingram, STL 21 Walter Pond, NYG 18 Matt Keyes Jr, STL AL STRIKEOUTS 183 Cotton Simson, SLA 176 Bob Stevens, PHA 172 Hal Andrew, DET NL STRIKEOUTS 182 Grady Ingram, STL 158 John Nolting, PHI 141 Randy Liebermann, CHN AL SAVES 24 Bernard Client, WSH 22 Billy Hyberg, BOS 18 Billy Crowell, PHA NL SAVES 22 Robert Datoli, CIN 15 Jacob Walensky, NYG 14 Bob Rustia, BSN 14 Thomas Collaco, BKN

02-10-2005, 09:12 PM	#3656
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,251	I would think Chaucer would be the leading candidate for the NL BOTY, but I could be wrong. If he did win, it would the silver lining in a very disappointing year for the Brave Faithful. __________________ None Blog it.

02-11-2005, 07:30 PM	#3657
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	> I would think Chaucer would be the > leading candidate for the NL BOTY, > but I could be wrong. Chaucer or Wing. I don't know how the more recent adjustments in OOTP to awards has impacted these type comps. Chaucer has him lapped in BA and OBP, is 6th in SLG, #3 in OPS, #1 in RC and RC/27, #1 in H and R and #3 in SB. Chaucer of course has him lapped in HR and RBI, and is 1-1 in HR & RBI, and has the #1 OPS. Arrendale won the BOY in 1949 when Kress had him in everything of note except for BA. Neither player was on the championship team, so there wasn't a bump there. Between Chaucer and Wing, Real Life voters would go for Wing. Chaucer already has one. The team isn't in contention. Wing has been one of the best hitters in the NL the last four years, but hasn't won the award. His team won it last year, and are in contention now. Howard, Dunkel, Chaucer, Rauch... seems like each of the top post war hitters in the NL is getting one (Lonny went to the other league to get his). I would expect Groaning to get one in the next couple of years. Of course I expect Chaucer to get another one or two or more at some point as well. John

02-11-2005, 08:14 PM	#3658
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,251	Might as well give it to Wing. __________________ None Blog it.

02-11-2005, 09:08 PM	#3659
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	For those who are interested & don't regularly check out the TWB forums, we're simming the final 2 weeks of the season with a very tight NL race live tonight at 10 PM Eastern in our simple new chat room, conveniently linked at our site. Everyone who's interested is more than welcomed to join! And check out Dennis Ward's Rookie Mistake, and the Tale of Grumpy Allen while you're there. It's a hoot! __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise Last edited by Matt from TN; 02-11-2005 at 09:10 PM.

02-11-2005, 09:22 PM	#3660
metsgeek Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 5,450	In the AL, how about Bobby Johnson? Kress should win it, but Bobby is certainly doing his best to keep him from getting another Triple Crown (although Boston fans refuse to acknowledge it. Lutske should have been the batting champ ) __________________ Commissioner - PBRL - Just finished 2009 109 seasons and still running strong!!!