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Vryllyn · 11-16-2003, 01:03 AM

Dude, how many leagues have you been the Commish for? Like 4 or Five and each one has the same problem?????

mfitterer1 · 11-16-2003, 01:10 AM

Been commish for 4 leagues, only 2 have involved accused cheating, guess your history on the subject was wrong.

Vryllyn · 11-16-2003, 01:20 AM

So 2 out of 4... Hmmm... Hit or Miss...

50% chance of something wrong. Man, you got some strange karma.

geoff · 11-16-2003, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by mfitterer1
These all happened in the past. That was my first league i ran, now I am much wiser and know what I am doing in running the league.

Yeah...this whole Real Beisbol fiasco is ancient history...going on two weeks now? You're obviously much wiser now...

mfitterer1 · 11-16-2003, 02:04 AM

Real Beisbol would have never had controversy if it werent for one owner and this board, the league has not had one problem since the texas gm was fired and everything has ran completely smooth.

Vryllyn · 11-16-2003, 03:24 AM

Hey mfitterer1, are you the MarlinGM on Real Beisbol?

mfitterer1 · 11-16-2003, 03:25 AM

yes why do you ask?

Vryllyn · 11-16-2003, 03:30 AM

Just curious. I went to the board on your league and saw that someone was complaining it looked like your pitching staff had been altered. That they wanted to do a trade but realized that, well, the stats were different.

I mean, do you change everything on your team or are you just trying to be more subtle but failing miserably at it?

Remind me, never to join a online league with you.

"Ya know.. i hate doing this. I honestly dont like looking at this garbage, but i was trying to put something together to possible aquire castillo from FLA and i noticed something rather interesting about his pitching staff... Ill ignore the fact that somehow Wilkin Ruan becaome a 3 star guy after I traded him as a 2 star... but heres where I go "Hmmmmm" Look at the Clutch Performance and Consistancy of EVERY ONEof his pitchers..... OMG. I honestly dont know what to say on the topic other than.... WOW. "

A quote on your board.

MTXperience · 11-16-2003, 03:32 AM

Thanks Vryllyn... you don't see those precious nuggets when you're one of the few... the proud... the banned from the RealBeisbol forum.

mfitterer1 · 11-16-2003, 03:36 AM

This was already brought up earlier in this thread, and has already been explained and taken care of, notice nobody in the league has any problems, it was a "misunderstanding" by the dodgers gm. He understood once explained, why didnt you post that

Vryllyn · 11-16-2003, 03:40 AM

mfitterer1,

http://realbeisbol.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=142

Just for everyone else. How is this an answer, "What do you have in mind, I am interested in doing that if reasonable." When the post date is yesterday/today.

Why do you edit your players? Please explain.

mfitterer1 · 11-16-2003, 03:44 AM

My players werent edited any more than any other teams were and it was at the beginning of the season. These secondary ratings werent looked at or even noticed by me and their were other teams that had similar clutch and consistency ratings, and then I found out they are useless ratings anyways.

Vryllyn · 11-16-2003, 03:54 AM

Hey mfitterer1,

What file did you originally use for your league? For acurate player ratings?

sporr · 11-16-2003, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mfitterer1
My players werent edited any more than any other teams were and it was at the beginning of the season. These secondary ratings werent looked at or even noticed by me and their were other teams that had similar clutch and consistency ratings, and then I found out they are useless ratings anyways.

Who ever said that those ratings were totally useless?

IatricSB · 11-16-2003, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sporr
Who ever said that those ratings were totally useless?

Yeah, it hasn't been my experience that their useless. Quite the contrary. Even the desire to play for a winner has had a huge affect on players I've had in leagues I'm in.

geoff · 11-16-2003, 01:48 PM

No comment on his allegation that Ruan was a 2-star when this owner traded him to you, and now is a 3-star?

I havent checked, but I'm taking a wild guess that his development history wont show any improvements...

jmaness84 · 11-16-2003, 03:20 PM

In all fairness this happens a lot... 2 star guys going to 3 w/ no history of improvement.

quote:
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Originally posted by mfitterer1
My players werent edited any more than any other teams were and it was at the beginning of the season. These secondary ratings werent looked at or even noticed by me and their were other teams that had similar clutch and consistency ratings, and then I found out they are useless ratings anyways.
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Hey ive had a commish do this before. I wont say any names... cough... Jway.... cough....Jway lol He had his Mariners stacked. Boone had like a 8 in hits and a 9 in homers lol I dont even want to start with his pitching staff

illnino0183 · 11-16-2003, 03:32 PM

Ok... I am the "Dodgers GM" in realbeisbol and i guess most of you have seen my prior accusations... well ill come strong with a couple more just to put icing on the cake

First off, ill give u cold, hard evidence that he edits ratings during the year.

Take a look at Paul LoDuca and his "B" defensive range rating with tampa bay. Now check the Player development page in tampa... notice how he has had no range increases.

Now go back to LA where LoDuca started the year.. notice how he had a range drop from C to D. Yet somehow now... it seems as if LoDuca amazingly learned how cover the bunt 2 times better without him...errrr..... ever really getting better. Id assume he got upset that i got the better of another GM so badly so he dropped a ratings blast to even it out a little.

I know this is small, but its just another clean example of this crap. Im sure you all already know about the beckett thing.... which i pointed out... and the Clutch ratings fiasco... which.. I pointed out. Minded i never had and idea of his past and i pointed these things out, without even knowing that he had a past of it. Just makes me think... what the hell are the rest of the people in this league thinking? Im quitting the league, anyone got any leagues i could join?

crackpott · 11-16-2003, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jmaness84
In all fairness this happens a lot... 2 star guys going to 3 w/ no history of improvement.

quote:
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Originally posted by mfitterer1
My players werent edited any more than any other teams were and it was at the beginning of the season. These secondary ratings werent looked at or even noticed by me and their were other teams that had similar clutch and consistency ratings, and then I found out they are useless ratings anyways.
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Hey ive had a commish do this before. I wont say any names... cough... Jway.... cough....Jway lol He had his Mariners stacked. Boone had like a 8 in hits and a 9 in homers lol I dont even want to start with his pitching staff

It happens in leagues with scouting. If scouting is off, the view of the player you see will not change unless their ratings have changed. He has already made it clear he does not use scouts in his league.

IatricSB · 11-16-2003, 04:44 PM

star ratings can go up or down with scouts off. Gold stars increase if the ratings go up and Blue stars go up if the talent changes. I wouldn't be surprised if I saw an increase in Gold Stars although 2 to 3 is a big jump without being 2 1/2 inbetween. As for Blue stars, you'd have to see development history of talents going up to see an increase there.

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11-16-2003, 01:03 AM	#341
Vryllyn Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA Posts: 70	Dude, how many leagues have you been the Commish for? Like 4 or Five and each one has the same problem?????

11-16-2003, 01:10 AM	#342
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	Been commish for 4 leagues, only 2 have involved accused cheating, guess your history on the subject was wrong.

11-16-2003, 01:20 AM	#343
Vryllyn Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA Posts: 70	So 2 out of 4... Hmmm... Hit or Miss... 50% chance of something wrong. Man, you got some strange karma.

11-16-2003, 02:04 AM	#345
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	Real Beisbol would have never had controversy if it werent for one owner and this board, the league has not had one problem since the texas gm was fired and everything has ran completely smooth.

11-16-2003, 03:24 AM	#346
Vryllyn Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA Posts: 70	Hey mfitterer1, are you the MarlinGM on Real Beisbol?

11-16-2003, 03:25 AM	#347
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	yes why do you ask?

11-16-2003, 03:30 AM	#348
Vryllyn Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA Posts: 70	Just curious. I went to the board on your league and saw that someone was complaining it looked like your pitching staff had been altered. That they wanted to do a trade but realized that, well, the stats were different. I mean, do you change everything on your team or are you just trying to be more subtle but failing miserably at it? Remind me, never to join a online league with you. "Ya know.. i hate doing this. I honestly dont like looking at this garbage, but i was trying to put something together to possible aquire castillo from FLA and i noticed something rather interesting about his pitching staff... Ill ignore the fact that somehow Wilkin Ruan becaome a 3 star guy after I traded him as a 2 star... but heres where I go "Hmmmmm" Look at the Clutch Performance and Consistancy of EVERY ONEof his pitchers..... OMG. I honestly dont know what to say on the topic other than.... WOW. " A quote on your board.

11-16-2003, 03:32 AM	#349
MTXperience Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 372	Thanks Vryllyn... you don't see those precious nuggets when you're one of the few... the proud... the banned from the RealBeisbol forum.

11-16-2003, 03:36 AM	#350
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	This was already brought up earlier in this thread, and has already been explained and taken care of, notice nobody in the league has any problems, it was a "misunderstanding" by the dodgers gm. He understood once explained, why didnt you post that

11-16-2003, 03:40 AM	#351
Vryllyn Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA Posts: 70	mfitterer1, http://realbeisbol.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=142 Just for everyone else. How is this an answer, "What do you have in mind, I am interested in doing that if reasonable." When the post date is yesterday/today. Why do you edit your players? Please explain.

11-16-2003, 03:44 AM	#352
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	My players werent edited any more than any other teams were and it was at the beginning of the season. These secondary ratings werent looked at or even noticed by me and their were other teams that had similar clutch and consistency ratings, and then I found out they are useless ratings anyways.

11-16-2003, 03:54 AM	#353
Vryllyn Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA Posts: 70	Hey mfitterer1, What file did you originally use for your league? For acurate player ratings?

11-16-2003, 01:48 PM	#356
geoff Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ft Hood, TX Posts: 85	No comment on his allegation that Ruan was a 2-star when this owner traded him to you, and now is a 3-star? I havent checked, but I'm taking a wild guess that his development history wont show any improvements...

11-16-2003, 03:20 PM	#357
jmaness84 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,685	In all fairness this happens a lot... 2 star guys going to 3 w/ no history of improvement. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by mfitterer1 My players werent edited any more than any other teams were and it was at the beginning of the season. These secondary ratings werent looked at or even noticed by me and their were other teams that had similar clutch and consistency ratings, and then I found out they are useless ratings anyways. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey ive had a commish do this before. I wont say any names... cough... Jway.... cough....Jway lol He had his Mariners stacked. Boone had like a 8 in hits and a 9 in homers lol I dont even want to start with his pitching staff

11-16-2003, 03:32 PM	#358
illnino0183 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Redlands CA Posts: 23	Ok... I am the "Dodgers GM" in realbeisbol and i guess most of you have seen my prior accusations... well ill come strong with a couple more just to put icing on the cake First off, ill give u cold, hard evidence that he edits ratings during the year. Take a look at Paul LoDuca and his "B" defensive range rating with tampa bay. Now check the Player development page in tampa... notice how he has had no range increases. Now go back to LA where LoDuca started the year.. notice how he had a range drop from C to D. Yet somehow now... it seems as if LoDuca amazingly learned how cover the bunt 2 times better without him...errrr..... ever really getting better. Id assume he got upset that i got the better of another GM so badly so he dropped a ratings blast to even it out a little. I know this is small, but its just another clean example of this crap. Im sure you all already know about the beckett thing.... which i pointed out... and the Clutch ratings fiasco... which.. I pointed out. Minded i never had and idea of his past and i pointed these things out, without even knowing that he had a past of it. Just makes me think... what the hell are the rest of the people in this league thinking? Im quitting the league, anyone got any leagues i could join?