Gambo and T_Wil1 Photopack

[cinemaodyssey]

There were two Charlie Householders playing around the same time in baseball past, both around 1882-1884. Charlie F. Householder, pictured on the left with Syracuse in 1886, played in 1884 as a third baseman and leftfielder. The other Householder is currently a missing player and was a catcher/first baseman. Baseball-Reference currently lists Charlie F. Householder as playing for the 1885 Richmond team, but the newspaper article states he was the backup catcher. There are similarities and differences between the two men.

[rrb77]

Pictured in Dugout with team at Yankee Stadium 4/20/39. Ted's 1st game...from twitter user Old-Time Baseball Photoshttps://www.baseballhistorycomesaliv...-is-uncovered/

[Jabez54]

Awesome find!!
That's so sweet - Many thanks for sharing!
Mind boggling of 82 years ago!!

[Chickazoola]

Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

There were two Charlie Householders playing around the same time in baseball past, both around 1882-1884. Charlie F. Householder, pictured on the left with Syracuse in 1886, played in 1884 as a third baseman and leftfielder. The other Householder is currently a missing player and was a catcher/first baseman. Baseball-Reference currently lists Charlie F. Householder as playing for the 1885 Richmond team, but the newspaper article states he was the backup catcher. There are similarities and differences between the two men.

So, I have spent a lot of time sorting out the Householders. Charles W. Householder had a really long and well traveled career from the 1870's to the 1890's. He was from Philadelphia and gets mentioned a bunch in the NY Clipper and other sources. Both images you posted are of this Householder. He is balding and frequently mustached. The images for the two Householders on bb-ref also show this one. There are quite a few images of him, since he had such a long career.

Charles F. Householder is much more elusive and to date is a missing player. He had a much shorter career, most of the appearances on his bb-ref actually belong to Charles W. Charles F. was from Harrisburg and seems to have stopped playing in the minors shortly after 1884.

It's a tough case to unpack, but Charles F. is definitely the missing player.

[Chickazoola]

Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

Cross played briefly in the majors in 1884 and 1887. He is pictured here with the 1885 Chattanooga Lookouts. The team photograph was published in the March 14, 1910 edition of The Chattanooga News.

Nice find!

[cinemaodyssey]

Thanks for clearing up the Householder mess! Baseball-Reference has a huge mess on their hands with the minor league stats between the 2.

[cinemaodyssey]

Pictured with a prominent independent team in Camden, NJ. He pitched in 1 game for the 1892 Baltimore Orioles, and was on many teams in the Pennsylvania area. This image was printed in the September 29, 1929 edition of the Camden Courier-Post.

[cinemaodyssey]

Facepack upgrade, to replace the line drawing. This pictures him as a member of the 1883 Fort Wayne team.

[baseball-birthdays.com]

Erik A. Johnson, 1994 San Francisco Giants

facepack has him in a block-C cap, image sampled from a slide in my collection

[DeweyintheHall]

Anything clear out there of Bert Adams with the Phillies?

[baseball-birthdays.com]

Originally Posted by DeweyintheHall

Anything clear out there of Bert Adams with the Phillies?

dunno what year this is from, but it's a pretty good image

[krantzbucks]

Charles Francis Goggin pictured with the Pittsburgh Pirates

[DeweyintheHall]

Looking for something of this 19th Century 1st baseman with the Phils. Thanks!

[cinemaodyssey]

Here's Boyle pictured with the 1894 Phillies.

[Cusick]

Congratulations, cinemaodyssey, on finding missing players Cross and Ely. Appreciate your having shared their photos on this forum.

[DeweyintheHall]

Originally Posted by baseball-birthdays.com

dunno what year this is from, but it's a pretty good image

Thanks for the Adams image!

[DeweyintheHall]

Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

Here's Boyle pictured with the 1894 Phillies.

Thanks much!

[DeweyintheHall]

Anything of Joe Sullivan or Bill McClellan would be appreciated - thanks!

[cinemaodyssey]

Here's Sullivan pictured with the 1896 Phillies, and McClellan pictured with the 1884 Phillies.

[DeweyintheHall]

Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

Here's Sullivan pictured with the 1896 Phillies, and McClellan pictured with the 1884 Phillies.

Thank you!