Missing fighter photos - Page 172

IceTea · 10-05-2005, 12:49 PM

Glen Johnson LHW

CONN CHRIS · 10-08-2005, 07:48 AM

"The Machine Gun" Pramuansak Posuwan - Undefeated Thai JBW, has defended his WBO Asian/Pacific title 17 times.

steamboat brand, palooka · 10-08-2005, 05:00 PM

Well, I'm about to create a "White Hope Era" universe, but I am not sure whether I am going to base it on the period from 1910 to 1915, or just 1912. It's easy to say, "Do the whole period", but in 1912 almost every top White Hope and black heavyweight of the time was active. When you pinpoint the time more, it is easier to get the abilities more exact. There is less conjecture.
The following is the decider: I don't have a photo of Jeff MADDEN 210 pounder out of Boston, who although he was a palooka, fought several times with known heavyweights in 1912(Bearcat McMahon, Arthur Pelky, etc.), so it would be uncomfortable to leave him out of a 1912 replay.
If I did the entire period, I couldn't leave Tom McCARTY out, and possibly minor palooka Al McCloskey.
You guys have helped immensely with photos. Is there a Jeff MADDEN photo out there anywhere?

Cap · 10-08-2005, 08:10 PM

I think you should just leave Tom McCarty and others like him out. McCarty had a very poor record right up to the end of the era, when Willard beat Johnson. His absence would be no great loss.

Cap

steamboat brand, palooka · 10-09-2005, 04:16 PM

Cap, I hear you, but TM did beat some decent heavyweights. If it covers 1908-1915, I am planning on having at least 50 White Hope heavyweights, and ten black heavyweights(the top four of all, among them). I believe he should be there, even if I only had thirty to thirty five White Hopes included. I wish my memory was what it was on this, then I could tell you specifically who he beat, but I remember enough to know he DID beat some. If you weren't one of the better guys, he'd beat you. I'm putting Sailor White in my group(how can you leave out Sailor White, by name alone?), and Tom McCarty would have wiped the floor with the old Sailor(In fact, he may HAVE.) Sailor White got clobbered by so many different heavyweights of the period, it would be unrealistic NOT to have him out there getting clobbered, in my own White Hope Era boxing world. I'll have to snoop in my brother's attic, because the scrapbook with just about every significant White Hope Era heavyweight bout is there.
By the way, Cap, where do you get the records and photos of Tim Logan type charcters? I'm loving this, and I am very grateful to you for this info.

IceTea · 10-09-2005, 05:39 PM

Sechew Powell

Tosti · 10-09-2005, 06:48 PM

Not Rated
Boxrec 040131
Fought Frank Childs

Tosti · 10-09-2005, 06:49 PM

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Boxrec 010967
Fought Joe Gans

Tosti · 10-09-2005, 06:50 PM

Alternative Pic

Tosti · 10-09-2005, 06:51 PM

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Boxrec 149098
Fought Joe Gans and Bobby Dobbs

Tosti · 10-09-2005, 06:53 PM

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Boxrec 060563
Fought Tommy Ryan, Phil Jack O'Brien, Matty Matthews and Joe Walcott.

Tosti · 10-09-2005, 06:54 PM

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Boxrec 056411
Fought Kid Sullivan and Young Corbett II

Tosti · 10-09-2005, 06:56 PM

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Boxrec 055976
Fought Frankie Neil

Tosti · 10-09-2005, 06:57 PM

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Boxrec 053291
Fought Johnny Dundee

Tosti · 10-09-2005, 06:59 PM

Superb name for a porno star!

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Boxrec 053882
Fought Kid Williams

Tosti · 10-09-2005, 07:00 PM

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Boxrec 055673
Fought Joe Dundee 3 times.

Tosti · 10-09-2005, 07:01 PM

Alternative Pic

Tosti · 10-09-2005, 07:11 PM

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Boxrec 055805
Fought Abe Attell

Tosti · 10-09-2005, 07:13 PM

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Boxrec 052435
Fought Johnny Coulon

Tosti · 10-09-2005, 07:13 PM

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10-05-2005, 12:49 PM	#3421
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,836	Glen Johnson Glen Johnson LHW __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/ Last edited by IceTea; 02-23-2008 at 08:02 PM.

10-08-2005, 07:48 AM	#3422
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,022	"The Machine Gun" Pramuansak Posuwan - Undefeated Thai JBW, has defended his WBO Asian/Pacific title 17 times. Attached Images __________________ Check Out My Cards!

10-08-2005, 08:10 PM	#3424
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 7,984	I think you should just leave Tom McCarty and others like him out. McCarty had a very poor record right up to the end of the era, when Willard beat Johnson. His absence would be no great loss. Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

10-09-2005, 05:39 PM	#3426
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,836	Sechew Powell __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/ Last edited by IceTea; 02-23-2008 at 08:02 PM.

10-09-2005, 06:48 PM	#3427
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Jim Janey Not Rated Boxrec 040131 Fought Frank Childs Attached Images

10-08-2005, 05:00 PM	#3423
steamboat brand, palooka Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 156	Well, I'm about to create a "White Hope Era" universe, but I am not sure whether I am going to base it on the period from 1910 to 1915, or just 1912. It's easy to say, "Do the whole period", but in 1912 almost every top White Hope and black heavyweight of the time was active. When you pinpoint the time more, it is easier to get the abilities more exact. There is less conjecture. The following is the decider: I don't have a photo of Jeff MADDEN 210 pounder out of Boston, who although he was a palooka, fought several times with known heavyweights in 1912(Bearcat McMahon, Arthur Pelky, etc.), so it would be uncomfortable to leave him out of a 1912 replay. If I did the entire period, I couldn't leave Tom McCARTY out, and possibly minor palooka Al McCloskey. You guys have helped immensely with photos. Is there a Jeff MADDEN photo out there anywhere?

10-09-2005, 04:16 PM	#3425
steamboat brand, palooka Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 156	Cap, I hear you, but TM did beat some decent heavyweights. If it covers 1908-1915, I am planning on having at least 50 White Hope heavyweights, and ten black heavyweights(the top four of all, among them). I believe he should be there, even if I only had thirty to thirty five White Hopes included. I wish my memory was what it was on this, then I could tell you specifically who he beat, but I remember enough to know he DID beat some. If you weren't one of the better guys, he'd beat you. I'm putting Sailor White in my group(how can you leave out Sailor White, by name alone?), and Tom McCarty would have wiped the floor with the old Sailor(In fact, he may HAVE.) Sailor White got clobbered by so many different heavyweights of the period, it would be unrealistic NOT to have him out there getting clobbered, in my own White Hope Era boxing world. I'll have to snoop in my brother's attic, because the scrapbook with just about every significant White Hope Era heavyweight bout is there. By the way, Cap, where do you get the records and photos of Tim Logan type charcters? I'm loving this, and I am very grateful to you for this info.

10-09-2005, 06:49 PM	#3428
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Joe Elliot Not Rated Boxrec 010967 Fought Joe Gans Attached Images

10-09-2005, 06:50 PM	#3429
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	George Siddons Alternative Pic Attached Images

10-09-2005, 06:51 PM	#3430
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Herman Miller Not Rated? Boxrec 149098 Fought Joe Gans and Bobby Dobbs Attached Images

10-09-2005, 06:53 PM	#3431
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Billy Payne Not Rated? Boxrec 060563 Fought Tommy Ryan, Phil Jack O'Brien, Matty Matthews and Joe Walcott. Attached Images

10-09-2005, 06:54 PM	#3432
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Harry Scroggs Not Rated? Boxrec 056411 Fought Kid Sullivan and Young Corbett II Attached Images

10-09-2005, 06:56 PM	#3433
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Young Britt Not Rated? Boxrec 055976 Fought Frankie Neil Attached Images

10-09-2005, 06:57 PM	#3434
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Frankie Rice Not Rated? Boxrec 053291 Fought Johnny Dundee Attached Images

10-09-2005, 06:59 PM	#3435
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Dick Loadman Superb name for a porno star! Not Rated? Boxrec 053882 Fought Kid Williams Attached Images

10-09-2005, 07:00 PM	#3436
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Len Mahoney Not Rated? Boxrec 055673 Fought Joe Dundee 3 times. Attached Images

10-09-2005, 07:01 PM	#3437
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Fay Keiser Alternative Pic Attached Images

10-09-2005, 07:11 PM	#3438
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Tommy Feltz Not Rated? Boxrec 055805 Fought Abe Attell Attached Images

10-09-2005, 07:13 PM	#3439
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Kid Murphy Not Rated? Boxrec 052435 Fought Johnny Coulon Attached Images

10-09-2005, 07:13 PM	#3440
Tosti Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London Posts: 6,735	Andy Chaney Alternative Pic Attached Images