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IatricSB · 11-15-2003, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Randall
In responce to "d) Dotel setting a record with 95 games without pitching in that many in the season"....
And YET, you only ran manger mode through July. He pitching in 95 games in ½ a year?

Glad someone else finally posted this. Its been bothering me since reading it.

geoff · 11-15-2003, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by mfitterer1
2.It was the Arizona owner, not I that made racial slurs, I hate racists.

Pathetic copout, but typical for an ignorant teenager.

You're right, guy...you have no responsibility to monitor the content of YOUR forums on YOUR league's website.

Picture this...you and your boy "Cody" decide to rob a gas station. Cody manages to procure a gun from somewhere, so you set out to do the deed. While in the act of robbing the joint, Cody gets frisky and shoots the clerk dead on the spot. You're later caught by the law.

Without considering whether your are minors, etc., BOTH OF YOU will get charged with felony murder. Your defense of "It was Cody, not I, that shot the clerk." wont get you anywhere. Actually, that and a piece of chow hall cornbread might keep you from being sodomized after "lights out"...

Funny thing about accountability...it's a real bitch.

mfitterer1 · 11-15-2003, 12:17 PM

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In response to "d) Dotel setting a record with 95 games without pitching in that many in the season".... And YET, you only ran manger mode through July. He pitching in 95 games in ½ a year?

Like I said I just heard of this for the first time, I have never had a chance to look into it and provide a for sure answer, currently I am looking back at the threads to see if that would help, when I am done I will let everyone know what i believe happened if there is something that I can figure out.

potatoman · 11-15-2003, 03:52 PM

"In response to "d) Dotel setting a record with 95 games without pitching in that many in the season".... And YET, you only ran manger mode through July. He pitching in 95 games in ½ a year? "

It might have been that dotel pitched in 30 games through july, he rolled it back to start the whole season over, and the 2nd time, dotel pitched 65 games, and added to the 30 he already had for the first time it was simmed it was 95...just one explanation that COULD have happened...

MTXperience · 11-15-2003, 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by potatoman
It might have been that dotel pitched in 30 games through july, he rolled it back to start the whole season over, and the 2nd time, dotel pitched 65 games, and added to the 30 he already had for the first time it was simmed it was 95...just one explanation that COULD have happened...

I'm fairly certain roll-backs don't work that way.

potatoman · 11-15-2003, 04:41 PM

=] okay then, i never rolled back a league so i wouldn't know

IatricSB · 11-15-2003, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by potatoman
It might have been that dotel pitched in 30 games through july, he rolled it back to start the whole season over, and the 2nd time, dotel pitched 65 games, and added to the 30 he already had for the first time it was simmed it was 95...just one explanation that COULD have happened...

Yeah, like was mentioned, this isn't possible. When you roll back a league, all stats are set to zero. What doesn't get set back are changes made to player ratings or talent. So if a player went from a 6 to a 7 or maybe from AVG to GOOD, he will remain that way and thus will be different than what he started the original season as.

potatoman · 11-15-2003, 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by IatricSB
Yeah, like was mentioned, this isn't possible. When you roll back a league, all stats are set to zero. What doesn't get set back are changes made to player ratings or talent. So if a player went from a 6 to a 7 or maybe from AVG to GOOD, he will remain that way and thus will be different than what he started the original season as.

oh... i didn't know

mfitterer1 · 11-15-2003, 06:59 PM

What my question is is how could I have done anything to make him peform in more games then were shown, I have no clue how that is even possible, I am still trying to look into some things about it but havent gotten anywhere yet

Vryllyn · 11-15-2003, 07:09 PM

Dude, no offense mfitterer1.

You just need to take a deep breath. Stop being all defensive. Join another online league where you aren't the commish and play for real. Just let this drop.

My 2 cents.

potatoman · 11-15-2003, 07:19 PM

One thing i believe so far,

The fact that he simmed the WS 3 times to LOSE. Although that is considered cheating also but it depends on how you look at it and who's opinion it is. People could take it a different way but I am pretty sure that the simming the WS 3 times to lose is true because in the 3 re-sims, he won all of them. If he wanted to win it, he would have just left it the way it was the first time he simmed it because according to the player cards, they won it the first time. If the other team won it the first time, it would be a different story....

mfitterer1 · 11-15-2003, 07:22 PM

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Dude, no offense mfitterer1. You just need to take a deep breath. Stop being all defensive. Join another online league where you aren't the commish and play for real. Just let this drop. My 2 cents.

They came to me I didnt come to them, they wanted explanations and I am giving them and I am in other leagues as well, I am in the MLBP, APBL, MLBC.

Cowboys3356 · 11-15-2003, 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by mfitterer1
They came to me I didnt come to them, they wanted explanations and I am giving them and I am in other leagues as well, I am in the MLBP, APBL, MLBC.

Thanks for the info Fit Dog. Now I know what leagues to avoid!

IatricSB · 11-15-2003, 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by mfitterer1
What my question is is how could I have done anything to make him peform in more games then were shown, I have no clue how that is even possible, I am still trying to look into some things about it but havent gotten anywhere yet

By simming forward the entire season (or enough to get the record) and then rolling back the league. That's the only way I know of...

IatricSB · 11-15-2003, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by Cowboys3356
Thanks for the info Fit Dog. Now I know what leagues to avoid!

.... And just so you know, the MLBC he's in is not the long running MLBC that has been around for years (MLB Century run by Barry), its another league that adopted the same acronym.

KC · 11-15-2003, 08:16 PM

OMG! My I.Q.!

Has anyone seen my I.Q.?

I put it down to read this thread, and the next minute, it's gone.

rangers85 · 11-15-2003, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by potatoman
One thing i believe so far,

The fact that he simmed the WS 3 times to LOSE. Although that is considered cheating also but it depends on how you look at it and who's opinion it is. People could take it a different way but I am pretty sure that the simming the WS 3 times to lose is true because in the 3 re-sims, he won all of them. If he wanted to win it, he would have just left it the way it was the first time he simmed it because according to the player cards, they won it the first time. If the other team won it the first time, it would be a different story....

Still, another way it could be looked at is, that he resimmed to lose to deflect some of the attention. A 120 win season is one thing, winning the world series is one thing, but when both combine into the same season, that's an entirely different thing that is even fishier looking.

Therefore, it could be interpreted that by him losing the world series, he could hopefully deflect some of the attention he got from winning those 120 games. Then wait to win the world series when he had a slightly lower win total that didn't look so fishy.

That's how I view it at least.

mfitterer1 · 11-15-2003, 11:57 PM

Not true, i did not want to win the first world series, that and the fact that my team was loaded and I wanted someone else to brag that they beat me in the world series to up activity a bit. This would raise activity because then the teams would see that you dont have to be a 120+ win team to win the series, unfortunately I coudlnt get STL to win the 7th game every time, and it took forever so i gave up.

sporr · 11-16-2003, 12:55 AM

Alright, even if we assume that everything you have said is correct, these are all signs that you should not be a commissioner of a league. If these types of mixups are that common in your leagues, then that should be a sign to you that maybe you should just be an owner for a while.

mfitterer1 · 11-16-2003, 12:57 AM

These all happened in the past. That was my first league i ran, now I am much wiser and know what I am doing in running the league.

11-15-2003, 03:52 PM	#324
potatoman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,410 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	"In response to "d) Dotel setting a record with 95 games without pitching in that many in the season".... And YET, you only ran manger mode through July. He pitching in 95 games in ½ a year? " It might have been that dotel pitched in 30 games through july, he rolled it back to start the whole season over, and the 2nd time, dotel pitched 65 games, and added to the 30 he already had for the first time it was simmed it was 95...just one explanation that COULD have happened... __________________ GFBL - Storm - 5 seasons - 500 - 310 New Jersey Nighthawks (1227-717) Last 5 seasons 2011: 118-44 2012: 100-62 2013: 111-51 2014: 106-56 2015: 108-54 OTBA Champions: 2008, 2010,2011

11-15-2003, 04:41 PM	#326
potatoman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,410 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	=] okay then, i never rolled back a league so i wouldn't know __________________ GFBL - Storm - 5 seasons - 500 - 310 New Jersey Nighthawks (1227-717) Last 5 seasons 2011: 118-44 2012: 100-62 2013: 111-51 2014: 106-56 2015: 108-54 OTBA Champions: 2008, 2010,2011

11-15-2003, 07:19 PM	#331
potatoman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,410 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	One thing i believe so far, The fact that he simmed the WS 3 times to LOSE. Although that is considered cheating also but it depends on how you look at it and who's opinion it is. People could take it a different way but I am pretty sure that the simming the WS 3 times to lose is true because in the 3 re-sims, he won all of them. If he wanted to win it, he would have just left it the way it was the first time he simmed it because according to the player cards, they won it the first time. If the other team won it the first time, it would be a different story.... __________________ GFBL - Storm - 5 seasons - 500 - 310 New Jersey Nighthawks (1227-717) Last 5 seasons 2011: 118-44 2012: 100-62 2013: 111-51 2014: 106-56 2015: 108-54 OTBA Champions: 2008, 2010,2011

11-15-2003, 08:16 PM	#336
KC Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: On my ass, you wanker. Now, sod off. Posts: 400	OMG! My I.Q.! Has anyone seen my I.Q.? I put it down to read this thread, and the next minute, it's gone. __________________ KC Ted Williams: "When you foul a pitch off, does it ever smell like scorched wood?" Mark McGwire: "All the time."

11-15-2003, 06:59 PM	#329
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	What my question is is how could I have done anything to make him peform in more games then were shown, I have no clue how that is even possible, I am still trying to look into some things about it but havent gotten anywhere yet

11-15-2003, 07:09 PM	#330
Vryllyn Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA Posts: 70	Dude, no offense mfitterer1. You just need to take a deep breath. Stop being all defensive. Join another online league where you aren't the commish and play for real. Just let this drop. My 2 cents.

11-15-2003, 11:57 PM	#338
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	Not true, i did not want to win the first world series, that and the fact that my team was loaded and I wanted someone else to brag that they beat me in the world series to up activity a bit. This would raise activity because then the teams would see that you dont have to be a 120+ win team to win the series, unfortunately I coudlnt get STL to win the 7th game every time, and it took forever so i gave up.

11-16-2003, 12:55 AM	#339
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	Alright, even if we assume that everything you have said is correct, these are all signs that you should not be a commissioner of a league. If these types of mixups are that common in your leagues, then that should be a sign to you that maybe you should just be an owner for a while.

11-16-2003, 12:57 AM	#340
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	These all happened in the past. That was my first league i ran, now I am much wiser and know what I am doing in running the league.