2008-09 NHL Season Thread

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by BruceM

Well according to the Thrashers, it's official for the 08/09 season.

Didn't thikn they could make hockey in Atlanta any more of a Greek tragety, but here we are. Yuck.

[piperclap]

my god, those are two stupid jerseys.

Who buys these things? Nascar fans?

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by piperclap

my god, those are two stupid jerseys.

Who buys these things? Nascar fans?

WINNAR!

[Delgadodawg]

''it's become like a common thing in the NHL for guys to fall in love with my sloppy seconds.''


Good 'ole Avery.

[Big Hugg]

Blue Jackets goalie Steve Mason wins November NHL Rookie of the Month, following Blue Jackets center Derick Brassard's October win.

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by Delgadodawg

''it's become like a common thing in the NHL for guys to fall in love with my sloppy seconds.''


Good 'ole Avery.

Yep. If his mouth was talent he'd give Wayne Gretzky a run for his money.

And there's been a few goalies this year that have come out of nowhere to show how it's done. Andy McDonald, Tim Thomas, and Alex Auld come to mind.

[Long_Long_Name]

Originally Posted by canadiancreed

Yep. If his mouth was talent he'd give Wayne Gretzky a run for his money.

And there's been a few goalies this year that have come out of nowhere to show how it's done. Andy McDonald, Tim Thomas, and Alex Auld come to mind.

Tim Thomas has always been an above-average (borderline all-star) goalie. He's always been good. But, yeah, this year he's been Luongo-like.

[Bluenoser]

NHL suspends Avery for comments, pending hearing

Well, can't say I blame the league for this move. Those were some pretty derogatory remarks. I think if I was Dion Phaneuf and I saw Avery on the ice, well - it wouldn't be pretty.

The problem with Avery isn't so much Avery, as it is the media. Everytime he comes to a Canadian Town, or some American Towns, the media pimps this guy like crazy. They hang on every word he says and hype him to pieces. If the media would just ignore him for a bit, he wouldn't get half the recognition he does and eventually a lot of people would forget he even exists.

[Delgadodawg]

Dallas is totally supporting the suspension and it seems some of the players are getting fed up with Avery. Should be interesting to see what happens after the suspension...I bet Dallas is regretting that 4 year deal.

[Bluenoser]

RIP Pit Martin - Quebec police find body of ex-NHLer Martin

I remember watching him play with Bobby and Jim. They were exciting to say the least.

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by BruceM

NHL suspends Avery for comments, pending hearing

Well, can't say I blame the league for this move. Those were some pretty derogatory remarks. I think if I was Dion Phaneuf and I saw Avery on the ice, well - it wouldn't be pretty.

The problem with Avery isn't so much Avery, as it is the media. Everytime he comes to a Canadian Town, or some American Towns, the media pimps this guy like crazy. They hang on every word he says and hype him to pieces. If the media would just ignore him for a bit, he wouldn't get half the recognition he does and eventually a lot of people would forget he even exists.

The problem is that it's the loud asshats of every sport that get the press. Hockey is just late to the party. Why concentrate on a star, that's boring. Stupid **** said by stupid people like Avery or T.O. or <insert big mouthed player from another sport here> is what earns ratings, and henceforth money.

Originally Posted by Delgadodawg

Dallas is totally supporting the suspension and it seems some of the players are getting fed up with Avery. Should be interesting to see what happens after the suspension...I bet Dallas is regretting that 4 year deal.

and I bet the Rangers are enjoying a bit of "told ya so!". Not exactly a feather in the cap for Dallas brass.

[Long_Long_Name]

Originally Posted by canadiancreed

The problem is that it's the loud asshats of every sport that get the press. Hockey is just late to the party. Why concentrate on a star, that's boring. Stupid **** said by stupid people like Avery or T.O. or <insert big mouthed player from another sport here> is what earns ratings, and henceforth money.

I don't think Sean Avery's impact on the NHL's revenue is quite that large. Montréal hasn't had a loudmouth since Shayne Corson, and they fill out the arena every night. I think the Leafs wouldn't lose many fans with the departure of Darcy Tucker, either. One of the most successful Southern markets is Tampa, and I think it has more to do with Vincent and Martin than it has to do with Hulk Hogan appearing at their games.

[Afino]

Originally Posted by canadiancreed

Stupid **** said by stupid people like Avery or T.O. or <insert big mouthed player from another sport here> is what earns ratings, and henceforth money.

I would have tuned in somehow had Avery played tonight, I'll tell ya that much.

[bababui]

I dont think what Avery said is any big deal. It doesnt hurt the sport. In fact, I bet most of you complaining about it are fans of Slap Shot which is much cruder. I am sick of corporate sensibilities dictating how things should be run in the sports world.

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

I don't think Sean Avery's impact on the NHL's revenue is quite that large. Montréal hasn't had a loudmouth since Shayne Corson, and they fill out the arena every night. I think the Leafs wouldn't lose many fans with the departure of Darcy Tucker, either. One of the most successful Southern markets is Tampa, and I think it has more to do with Vincent and Martin than it has to do with Hulk Hogan appearing at their games.

It's not. Perhaps press instead of ratings would have been a better statement, althought the same negative results is found.

Using Montreal and Toronto as comparisons is a bit off. It'd be like using the Yankees and Boston for baseball, people show up regardless of good or bad, completely outrageous or vanilla boring.

As for Tampa I'm hoping that's people in the area would pay attention to the team for the talent and not because of the clown show currently running it.

Then again....

Originally Posted by Afino

I would have tuned in somehow had Avery played tonight, I'll tell ya that much.

Originally Posted by bababui

I dont think what Avery said is any big deal. It doesnt hurt the sport. In fact, I bet most of you complaining about it are fans of Slap Shot which is much cruder.

I have to say nein to being a fan of Slap Shot. Then again I grew up in an area where we had the real life version of it (aka the Maple Laffs)

And it does hurt the sport, at least the image of it. See basketball and the NFL (it's not been given the moniker of the National Felon League for ****s and giggles). Hockey doesnt' need that as it tries to become relevant in new and existing markets.

Originally Posted by bababui

I am sick of corporate sensibilities dictating how things should be run in the sports world.

A lack of class is corporate sensibilities?

[bababui]

Originally Posted by canadiancreed

A lack of class is corporate sensibilities?

I absolutely agree what he said was crude and classless. But to be indefinitely suspended? Thats idiotic to me.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by bababui

I dont think what Avery said is any big deal. It doesnt hurt the sport. In fact, I bet most of you complaining about it are fans of Slap Shot which is much cruder. I am sick of corporate sensibilities dictating how things should be run in the sports world.

If someone called your girlfriend sloppy seconds, that wouldn't be a big deal to you?

If someone who works for a rival company to the one you worked for went to the press and said your girlfriend was sloppy seconds, that wouldn't be a big deal to you?

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by bababui

I absolutely agree what he said was crude and classless. But to be indefinitely suspended? Thats idiotic to me.

It might be idiotic to you, but when you get the same loudmouth saying #@%#@ about other players to the press continuously, then something has to be done. He's giving the sport a bad name.

Of course, as you stated previously, labelling someones girlfriend as sloppy seconds isn't a big deal, so everyone should just turn the other cheek I suppose.

Also, the "indefinite" part of the suspension is just a formality until they have a hearing ad give a set # of games. Hopefully it's a lot. Hockey (sports) doesn't need this type of publicity.

[Kekkonen]

Originally Posted by BruceM

It might be idiotic to you, but when you get the same loudmouth saying #@%#@ about other players to the press continuously, then something has to be done. He's giving the sport a bad name.

No, he's not. He would be giving Sean Avery a bad name, but that's kinda hard because the world population is already divided into two groups, one who doesn't know who the hell Sean Avery is, and one who knows he's a jackass. But if he ends up missing more games than Chris Pronger did for any of his dangerous on-ice stunts, that will be giving the NHL a bad name.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by Kekkonen

No, he's not. He would be giving Sean Avery a bad name, but that's kinda hard because the world population is already divided into two groups, one who doesn't know who the hell Sean Avery is, and one who knows he's a jackass. But if he ends up missing more games than Chris Pronger did for any of his dangerous on-ice stunts, that will be giving the NHL a bad name.

Sure he's giving the league a bad name. When a guy like Avery is in the press all the time, that's a reflection of the league, whether you like to admit it or not. You have someone like that in the press all the time, you don't draw new fans and you turn some of current ones off.

Think about it - If you're trying to draw new fans, who do you want in the Press? Sean Avery or guys like Crosby, Luongo, Iginla? I don't agree with your anology of the world beig divided in half on Avery, but since you put it that way, if you're trying to attract the half that doesn't know who he is to the NHL, you're not going to have a lot of luck by advertising Avery to them. That is what's happening now, Avery is being advertised a lot more than the players who should be. It's too bad the league couldn't convinvce the media to igore him.

He doesn't deserve to be heard. I hope the Stars cut him. I'm sure that no other team will have interest in him.