Complete Universe Facegen Pack

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by ChrisJNelson

Not at all crushing your work because it literally makes such a huge impact on our game experience (plus, I have no idea how facegen works), but do you ever find guys end up looking more "generic" when you do them sometimes, like it's not really capturing their unique features?

Like in this Ian Kennedy example, the new one looks more "human" but the old one looks more like HIM, or at least a caricature of him. I wish there was more of a middle ground sometimes, but maybe that's a limit of the facegen program.

Partly it's the fact that the old one was made using a smiling picture which the software doesn't like but it was likely made by OOTP in-house with the top-of-the-line facegen ($700) software using an MLB-provided hi-res photo. This one doesn't look super hi-res based on the file size but a lot of them are. Doesn't mean they are good faces staring back at you - just that every hair in the beard is discernable.

Ideally you use that top-dollar software with the better non-smiling picture and the insane resolution of the MLB licensed photo. I'm using the $300 version of the software, a downloaded-from-the-internet, professional (Getty Images Spring Training Photo), but lower res photo... of course, I at least have something the software works well with though.

While it's not the case with Ian's old one which came in at 155KB, one of the risks of trying to use the top end software with the top end photos is that you can get fg files that are 1MB each and even when knocked down in resolution a bit using the software are still 700KB-ish each. Thankfully, there are plenty of the 22,650 MLB'ers that have poor photos to offset the larger files of modern players but at a certain point, file size is an issue as one's fg_file grows. That's why I'm building mine up from scratch - I want to trade space and lose all the old-naming-convention, small, duplicate, facegens and have just 22,650 files of larger size and better quality. The MiLB'ers I keep and file separately so I can see if I've done one if I want him.

So, sure Ian looks like just another guy with a beard at the neighborhood BBQ. Maybe your wife's friend's husband you met once and forgot his name. But put him next to that picture... it's kinda him...

Thanks for the opening line caveat too, it's appreciated... and don't worry, I know what you mean. Also, you are on a Mac, right? The Mac washes out details even after the fix. It did so in OOTP22 too. I see the Mac renderings of them in screenshots and, man, if you could ever just see a well-crafted, solid detail facegen in game and on a PC. It's pretty satisfying. ... or else I wouldn't have started my project to revisit every fg and make them available to those interested. Instead, I'd actually be playing the game... which reminds me... it's nearly draft day in my Random Debut game...

Lastly, here's a view of them in the software at about the size I'm working with them. [Checks the Getty Image]... I'll take the guy from the BBQ still... the other guy looks like he hasn't left the keg

[ChrisJNelson]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Partly it's the fact that the old one was made using a smiling picture which the software doesn't like but it was likely made by OOTP in-house with the top-of-the-line facegen ($700) software using an MLB-provided hi-res photo. This one doesn't look super hi-res based on the file size but a lot of them are. Doesn't mean they are good faces staring back at you - just that every hair in the beard is discernable.

Ideally you use that top-dollar software with the better non-smiling picture and the insane resolution of the MLB licensed photo. I'm using the $300 version of the software, a downloaded-from-the-internet, professional (Getty Images Spring Training Photo), but lower res photo... of course, I at least have something the software works well with though.

While it's not the case with Ian's old one which came in at 155KB, one of the risks of trying to use the top end software with the top end photos is that you can get fg files that are 1MB each and even when knocked down in resolution a bit using the software are still 700KB-ish each. Thankfully, there are plenty of the 22,650 MLB'ers that have poor photos to offset the larger files of modern players but at a certain point, file size is an issue as one's fg_file grows. That's why I'm building mine up from scratch - I want to trade space and lose all the old-naming-convention, small, duplicate, facegens and have just 22,650 files of larger size and better quality. The MiLB'ers I keep and file separately so I can see if I've done one if I want him.

So, sure Ian looks like just another guy with a beard at the neighborhood BBQ. Maybe your wife's friend's husband you met once and forgot his name. But put him next to that picture... it's kinda him...

Thanks for the opening line caveat too, it's appreciated... and don't worry, I know what you mean. Also, you are on a Mac, right? The Mac washes out details even after the fix. It did so in OOTP22 too. I see the Mac renderings of them in screenshots and, man, if you could ever just see a well-crafted, solid detail facegen in game and on a PC. It's pretty satisfying. ... or else I wouldn't have started my project to revisit every fg and make them available to those interested. Instead, I'd actually be playing the game... which reminds me... it's nearly draft day in my Random Debut game...

Lastly, here's a view of them in the software at about the size I'm working with them. [Checks the Getty Image]... I'll take the guy from the BBQ still... the other guy looks like he hasn't left the keg

Appreciate the insights! No I actually don't have a mac, I haven't installed this FG file, I was purely going off the screenshots here on the forum. You do awesome work though, I'd love to get into the facegen stuff in my spare time.

[percolaten]

Thanks Lans, once again looks great! I don't know, the non-smiling Ian Kennedy looks a lot more real to me.

[Amazin69]

Jack Krawczyk, the son of AAA infielder Tom Krawczyk (and AFAICT, no relation to Ray Krawczyk) was "the greatest relief pitcher in college baseball history"…or so the back of one of his baseball cards says. Pitched in several College World Series for USC, set save records, etc. The BR-Bullpen has a nice article on him.

But…the pros didn't think his fastball had enough juice and so he fell to the 25th round of the 1998 draft, before the Brewers took a chance on him. He certainly did well enough at Helena and Beloit in his first season (including a strong K/9-rate), but I understand that the Milwaukee AI might be jumping the gun by wanting to bring him all the way to The Show. Still, it makes more sense than starting him over in Beloit (as the Brewers front office did IRL) or, after he earned promotion to Stockton and spent most of the season there, sending him right back to Stockton (calling themselves "The Mudville Nine" for 2000…sheesh!) the next year.

Eventually he reached AAA, like his dad, and didn't do so well (like his dad) and so the only Krawczyk ever to reach the bigs remains "Uncle" (not really) Ray.



Jack shouldn't feel so bad; according to the Trading Card Database, Ray may have pitched in the bigs, but he never got a big league card, either.

(A pity Ray was pre-Bowman. I mean, I think I'm on a Bowman card…)

[percolaten]

Donny Sands needs a new one...

[percolaten]

Also, Isiah Kiner-Falefa is now on the Yankees, so he could use a shave.

[percolaten]

Anyone wanna try Bud Selig? I imagine it'd be a time-consuming, difficult one. Man, I need to get a PC.

[WyattGOAT]

I know Mac is nowhere near the level of PC, but is there anything that can be done to improve some photos? For example, some players (Yelich) render real nicely on my MacBook Air, but others, not so much (Trout)

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by WyattGOAT

I know Mac is nowhere near the level of PC, but is there anything that can be done to improve some photos? For example, some players (Yelich) render real nicely on my MacBook Air, but others, not so much (Trout)

I wish there was something I could do to help Mac users. Here's how they render on a PC. If this is something in the power of OOTP and Singular Inversions to get together and work on to fix, that'd be great, but I presume that if it could have, it would have by now. I keep hope it is on a list in both their offices to get to as time and resources permit. Of things I can do to revisit the facegens, I might lighten my Trout, see if the chin can come down at tad and fix the angle of slant on the eyes... but getting it to render well on a Mac is beyond my abilities

[karlstyner]

Mick Abel (RHP, Philadelphia Phillies)
https://www.milb.com/player/mick-abel-690953
Fastball: 65 | Curveball: 50 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 55 | Control: 55 | Overall: 55

Can you make Mick Abel?

[LansdowneSt]

Here ya go, Amazin' Best I could do with him. I gave the minor league Brewers team the Rattlers, the logos and unis of some Mudville 9 for the screenshot.

[LansdowneSt]

Many players have come out of the Pacific Northwest and gone on to be very good Major Leaguers. More often than not, they’ve been college players, and the high schoolers who have been drafted early have tended to be hitters. Before 2020, the last prep pitcher to be taken in the first round was Jeremy Bonderman in ‘01, so Abel broke a long streak when the Phillies took the big right-hander, who had put his name on the map as a first-rounder (No. 15 overall) with a solid performance on the summer showcase circuit. He then went on to impress during his time in instructional league play last fall.

Abel has the chance to have a solid four-pitch mix, all coming from an athletic 6-foot-5 frame and a super-fast arm. His fastball was up to 95 mph consistently the summer before the Draft, and he was up to 98 mph during instructional league with the Phillies. He can throw it downhill with life at the bottom of the zone, but he can also elevate his four-seamer with riding action to miss bats. Abel’s slider, which reaches 85-86 mph, flashes plus, and he can spin a curveball with more over-the-top action to it. He has good feel for a sinking changeup, thrown with excellent deception thanks to arm speed.

The combination of size and pure stuff, with more in the tank as he adds strength, makes Abel a very intriguing pitching prospect. He tends to throw strikes, something that will only improve as he continues to learn how to make adjustments on the mound. He was the first high school pitcher to be taken in the 2020 Draft, and the early returns from instructional league have shown why he was worthy of topping that list. - MLB Pipeline

Tried to make a facegen in between the two pics.

[LansdowneSt]

From the St. Louis Dispatch, March 2022:

Donny Sands was once homeless. Now he’s trying to make the Phillies.
It took Donny Sands three weeks to convince his mother, Alma, to sell her car. The Phillies catching prospect had just bought her a brand-new Mercedes Benz with his signing bonus. It was pristine, but that was the problem. She didn’t want to drive it anywhere. The roads by their home in Tucson, Ariz., were full of potholes and dust. That type of vehicle belonged on pavement. So for three weeks, with a Mercedes sitting in her driveway, Alma drove a beat-up 2006 Toyota Camry. That was a car she didn’t mind getting dirty. It had seen the most harrowing parts of their journey — including four evictions — and served as a home for Donny for seven months when he was in high school.

Donny’s father, Roger, passed away in 2012 from a heart attack. Alma had trouble finding work, and moved back home to Mexico a year later, where she cleaned houses and worked out of her brother’s dental practice. Donny stayed in Tucson with the Toyota Camry. He’d go to school, go to baseball practice, and drive the car out to Santa Rita Park. He put towels on the windows and roll them up, so they stayed put. And then he would go to sleep in the backseat.

The day he sold the Camry for $2,000, Alma cried. Tears of sadness, but also tears of joy, for the journey that her son was embarking on. She was in disbelief that Donny, who had been playing baseball with his father in the backyard since he was 2 years old, had been selected by the New York Yankees in the eighth round of the 2015 MLB draft. At 18, her son was able to buy her a house and a Mercedes Benz. She used to take care of him. Now he was taking care of her.

“That’s why I do this,” Sands, 25, said. “I want to give her everything.”

I started with the Phillie picture tried to split the difference between these two photos as I made the new facegen. At age 26, I hope he gets to make the show even for just a game.

[percolaten]

Thank you! Interesting Story!

[karlstyner]

LansdowneSt, Mick Abel Thank you!

[BBGiovanni]

Originally Posted by BBGiovanni

Thanks so much for this, I can't wait to try it... I started a historical sim today for the first time in a few years and there's no Willie Mays pic! I couldn't believe it. I'll be glad to see all the young guys too, so many are missing from the default set

It's so long since this message I forgot where I got the excellent facegens for v.21, after manually uploading individuals from there into v. 23 I decided to get an upgraded set and here I am again! Yoenis Cespedes doesn't look like David Eckstein any more Thanks once again for every single piece of work that's gone into this!

[clarkemi1]

Could someone please update Gary Gaetti. I don't think my .fg looks anything like him. Thanks

[ChrisJNelson]

Originally Posted by clarkemi1

Could someone please update Gary Gaetti. I don't think my .fg looks anything like him. Thanks

Seems pretty solid to me, actually.

[Baby Ruth]

I've tried, I've really tried, to just ignore his face, but he keeps coming up against my team, and he just seems to be mocking me with his deathly pallor. I looked but couldn't find a replacement. Does anyone have one?

[LansdowneSt]

Gary Gaetti did it all over 20 seasons (1981-2000) for five major-league teams. He spent the first decade of his career with the Minnesota Twins, where he was a two-time All-Star and four-time Gold Glove winner at third base. In 1987, when the Twins won the first championship in franchise history, he was the MVP of the League Championship Series and handled the final out of the World Series. By the time he retired after stints with the Angels, Royals, Cardinals, Cubs and Red Sox, he had amassed 2,280 hits and 360 home runs, and only two players in history had played more games at the hot corner.1 With his durability and hard-nosed style, Gaetti displayed a blue-collar grit that he learned growing up in a small Midwestern town.

In 1987, the Twins won the World Series in seven games against the St. Louis Cardinals, with Gaetti snatching a grounder and firing to first for the final out. In the clubhouse, reflecting on what he and his teammates had just accomplished, he said, “When I’m 65 years old, I’m going to take my grandchild to his first baseball game,” he said. “We’ll take our seats, and I’ll say to him, ‘Baseball is the national pastime, the greatest game in the world. And the greatest thing you can do in baseball is win a World Series.’ Then I’ll pause and say, ‘I once played for a World Series winner.’” When Gaetti was inducted into the Twins Hall of Fame, his former teammate, Kent Hrbek, summed up his longtime buddy and got to the core of who he was. “Gary wanted to win more than anybody,” Hrbek said. “Gary wasn’t out there to make friends or headlines. He was just out there to win.” - SABR

Mine is on the far right of the three facegens shown. It's pretty straight-forward, based on the Cardinals picture (I need to find that 1999 Cards hat on the boards). The CUFacepack has the mustache one but I don't even remember him with a mustache.