Time Warp Baseball

[Carlton]

I hope that 20 seasons from now...John and I will debate who had the better pitching season

Murphy in 1920 for him
Nolting in 1948 for me

[canadiancreed]

shoudl b a very intresting series. If it doesnt go seven games i'll be surprised.

also woudl this be the first series in quite a while where the teams are quite evenly matched?

[DamnYankees]

SP #1 - John Nolting, 31-6, 2.99, 157 K

It was the first 30 win season since 1935, and based on our history, we can expect 0 more. Possibly 1. Also, it's the 2nd highest win total ever, behind Lopresto's amazing 33.

Let's all just appreciate the achievement for a moment.

[fvamos]

Just happy he didn't break Presto's mark especially the year he passed. Tough season for the Cards as the season was dedicated to Lopresto and like the great one's teams beack in the early teens they fell short.

Cards will be looking to be a buyer as we have a nice mix of veterans and some younger players.

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by fvamos

Just happy he didn't break Presto's mark especially the year he passed. Tough season for the Cards as the season was dedicated to Lopresto and like the great one's teams beack in the early teens they fell short.

Cards will be looking to be a buyer as we have a nice mix of veterans and some younger players.

Well if you'd like to trade McMurray and know someoen that woudl like Mitts I know i'd be intrested in doing business

[Matt from TN]

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WORLD SERIES

Game 1: Detroit scored 3 in the top of the 1st off Dan Volpe, who allowed 8 runs in 5 innings before being pulled from the game. Hal Andrew was pitching a gem for the Tigers before allowing 2 runs in the 6th, but even then Detroit had a 9-2 lead. In the 8th, things got ugly for Andrew. Lonny Arrendale hit a 3-run homer with 1 out, and three batters later, Lee Friedman hit an RBI single to make it 9-6. After a walk, Flint Rutty represented the tying run at the plate with two outs, but he hit an easy fly ball to left-center for out 3. Reliever Mike Downey set the Phillies down 1-2-3 in the 9th.

Tigers 9 - Phillies 6

Game 2: This was an ugly game in the field. Both teams combined to commit 6 errors and allow 5 unearned runs in the first 4 innings of the game. In the top of the first, an error by Phillies shortstop Ted Stuart kept that inning alive, and with two outs, Matt Perly singled home the first run of the game. In the top of the 3rd, the first two Detroit batters reached on errors, one by RF Nicky Barker and then Stuart's second of the game. A walk to the next batter loaded the bases, and Luther Ormiston clubbed a 3-run double. Then with two outs and Ormiston on 3rd, an error by 3B Maurice Misisca allowed Rik Kaladimos to get on base and Ormiston to score. With a 5-0 lead, the Tigers would not be out-done, committing two errors in the 4th to allow Philly's first run of the game. Down 5-1 in the bottom of the 9th, Pokey Dorsey stroked an RBI single with 2 outs. The tying run then came to the plate as none other than Flint Rutty. Bob Guilderson came in to pitch and got Rutty to ground out to end the game.

Tigers 5 - Phillies 2

Game 3: The Tigers took a 4-0 lead in the 1st inning off 1947 NL POTY Mickey Lonergan, and after 8 innings they led 5-1. In the top of the 9th, Harley Melzer walked the first two batters of the inning and then Flint Rutty hit an RBI single. Bob Guilderson came in and pinch hitter Don Karembeu laid down a squeeze bunt. Pokey Dorsey raced for home, Luther Ormiston scooped up the ball and made a great throw, but Dorsey slid home just under the tag of Bud Moore. Guilderson then walked the bases loaded, and a ground out by Ted Stuart scored another run. Lonny Arrendale struck out looking for out 2, but then Guilderson reloaded the bases with a walk and then walked Maurice Misisca to send home the tying run. Lee Friedman then cleared the bases with a double, giving Philly a 7-run 9th inning and a 8-5 lead.

The new major league record holder for saves, Doyle Weaver, came in for Philly. After two walks, he allowed a 1-out RBI single to Carlton Affee. After out 2 was recorded, Ray Kress and Luther Ormiston hit back-to-back RBI singles to tie the game at 8-8. Detroit manager Arden Killbreath made two bizarre moves by pinch running for both Kress and Ormiston, even though Ormiston was a meaningless runner in a 8-8 tie in the 9th. After Matt Perly walked to load the bases, Bud Moore hit a screaming fly ball to left-center off new Phillies reliever Garland Sisk, but Flint Rutty made a fantastic catch to save the game and end the inning. The Phillies had runners thrown out by Moore trying to steal 2nd in the top of the 10th and 11th. And in the bottom of the 11th with two outs, Kress' and Ormiston's spots in the lineup came up. Their replacements, Iggy Chennault and Tom Hoelscher, came through with a single and a double to win the game for Detroit.

Phillies 8 - Tigers 9

Game 4: Philly went into the bottom of the 9th with a 2-0 lead, but Luther Ormiston ended the shutout with a leadoff bomb to deep left field for his 2nd homerun of the series. Doyle Weaver came in to pitch and got the next three hitters out to give the Phillies their first win. Both Dan Volpe and Hal Andrew allowed just 4 hits.

Phillies 2 - Tigers 1

Game 5: John Nolting allowed 3 runs off just 5 hits and 2 walks. Detroit never got much going against him despite the close score. With their second straight victory, Philadelphia sends the series back home for Game 6.

Phillies 5 - Tigers 3

Game 6: The Tigers score 4 in the 2nd off Mickey Lonergan, and it looks like they're on their way to a WS title with a 5-1 lead in the bottom of the 8th. But with two outs, Lonny Arrendale hits a solo homer and then the Phillies rack up two singles and a double. First baseman Rik Kaladimos commits an error to keep the inning alive, and Bud Moore allows a passed ball which lets pinch runner Tony Hartman score the tying run from 3rd. This game goes on until Ted Stuart hits a 2-out RBI single in the 11th to win the game and tie the series at 3 games each. Unfortunately for the Phillies, third baseman Maurice Misisca felt pain in his elbow when making a throw to first in the top of the 11th, and he will likely miss Game 7.

Tigers 5 - Phillies 6

Game 7: The Tigers took a 3-1 lead after the 4th, and Hal Andrew was pitching well. But the Phillies began chipping away. They scored on an error with 2 outs in the 7th. They scored the tying run on an error with 2 outs in the 8th. Then with a runner on 2nd and 2 out in the 9th, Detroit brought in reliever Mike Downey who promtly gave up a game and series-winning single to Ted Stuart.

Tigers 3 - Phillies 4


Lonny Arrendale was named World Series MVP for hitting .300 with 3 HR, 7 RBI and a .890 OPS. However, Ted Stuart came in a close second for his game-winning hits in Games 6 and 7.

[Vris]

Wow. I don't even know where to begin.

Phils win despite being down 3-0.
All 7 games weren't decided until the last at bat (including 3 walk-off hits)
2 extra inning games

Amazing series. Just amazing. So much going on all at once. This is right up there with the Yankees/Dodgers series a few years ago for best series of all time. It brings up the question though: How many teams have come back from 3-0 (or 4-0) and win the series? I'll have to go back and check.

Great series. Congratulations to both teams, they both had outstanding seasons.

[ifspuds]

Wow. Just... wow.

Congratulations to the Phillies, and sympathies to the Tigers. What a series.

[m0ng00se]

Ouch. Blowing a 3-0 lead sucks.

But, I still feel good about the pennant and the 102 win season.

Congrats to the Phillies. We promised the fans an exciting series and they got it.

Just noticed my manager got him self tossed in the 9th of game 3. Trying to inspire the troops I'm sure. Too bad he couldn't fire them up in the final four games. ;-)

This off season is a bit scary for me as my starting CF had a talent meltdown at 38 and three of my starting rotation are 35, 37, & 37.

None of my team announced retirement at the beginning of the season, but I think it is time for a few of my players to move on. I'd like to get Ulrich on the active roster and see if he can grow on the big team like Hal Andrew did. Downey and Paule could fill in nicely if Melzer and Guilderson decided to call it a career.

[canadiancreed]

Good to see that my prediction for seven games came true....too bad that the winner I was wrong about.

as for the CF situation, too bad I jsut traded Flint Rutty, coudl have been an effective stopgap. And your'e right that's an ancient rotation, not exactly somethign you want to be staring at when defending your pannant

[tward13]

I have a nice veteran SP that would fit in there.

[Carlton]

Now THAT is a World Series!!!!

Congrats to Goose
I'd like to say I was pulling for the underdog...but I'd be lying (hey I am the Evil Empire here ya know)

Game 3 and Game 6 show off my strategy to a T

but Arrendale as MVP?
Ted Stuart doesn't get any bonus points Matt? In his very last AB of his CAREER...he wins the WS...how cool is that?

That is what every player dreams of doing

and how many people think Ted Stuart is a HOFer?
If you are borderline, I hope this World Series puts him in.

[canadiancreed]

Ted Stuart doesn't get any bonus points Matt? In his very last AB of his CAREER...he wins the WS...how cool is that?

It's Label Sennelnekoff for 1948

[haggis007]

CONGRATS to the Phillies. Maybe I should have let Ervin pick up ring #7 . .

Originally Posted by m0ng00se

Ouch. Blowing a 3-0 lead sucks.

None of my team announced retirement at the beginning of the season, but I think it is time for a few of my players to move on. I'd like to get Ulrich on the active roster and see if he can grow on the big team like Hal Andrew did. Downey and Paule could fill in nicely if Melzer and Guilderson decided to call it a career.

Doe they need to have announced at the beginning of the 48 season in order for them to retire at the start of 49?

[canadiancreed]

sometimes

I also though that they might jsut out of the blue retire at the beginning of the next year too, as Otis Sistruck for my team just got up and retired in 1948 without an announcement

[fhomess]

Originally Posted by Carlton

and how many people think Ted Stuart is a HOFer?
If you are borderline, I hope this World Series puts him in.

The 9 Gold Gloves are impressive for a short stop, but he didn't do enough with the bat, in my opinion. He was only an All-Star once, and was rarely in the top 10 in the league in any of the major statistical categories.

[canadiancreed]

but SS's arent really known to be good with the bat, more with the glove.

I mean look at that guy for the Orilies in the sixties, coudlnt hit worth crap but was amazing in the field.

[m0ng00se]

Originally Posted by haggis007

Doe they need to have announced at the beginning...

No. Rob Blaisdell just retired despite not declaring at the beginning of the year. Unfortunately, no one on my active roster retired, so I have some very tough decisions ahead of me for '49.

[Carlton]

Originally Posted by canadiancreed

but SS's arent really known to be good with the bat, more with the glove.

I mean look at that guy for the Orilies in the sixties, coudlnt hit worth crap but was amazing in the field.

Actually that was Brooks Robinson and he was a 3Bman, and he really shouldn't be a HOFer...that WS put him in

As for Stuart, you are correct...he is IMHO, the last in the line of great contact, great defensive SS

With OOTP GM's, you will see more emphasis on walking and power at SS...way too early in our universe.

As for not hitting...he has a .296 lifetime BA, and would have had 10 STRAIGHT SS GG if not for bogus voting in 1940
He was a Top 10 finalist in 3bs most of his career...and I hate to do intangibles, but when the Phillies needed to win a game...he was the one who usually did it

Out of 22 hits and 5 walks...he had 10 RBI and 8 runs in World Series play

This is one of the times I wish we had CatoBase...because I know Ted Stuart would be Top 5 many years in single season SS records for PO,A,TC,DP,F%,RF and would lead all SS in those for his career


He is not a complete player like Whitey Kohse (our Honus Wagner) or even Dal Reneau (our Joe Cronin) but is in the mold of PeeWee Reese and Phil Rizzuto...a great leader and defensive wizard

and his Defensive Win Shares are IMPRESSIVE!!!!

[canadiancreed]

perosnally i though the Orioles had a bad hitting SS during that time. Belanger or something like that. Oh well

as for offense overwehling defense as the definition of who get the most playing time, i've noticed that too for all positions. You'll see guys that have dismal range and arm stretght get mroe time because they can hit more. I chalk it up to the new reality of the league

Case in point: the three best offensive teams in the NL finished 1,2,3. The best defensive team in the NL (I'm using pitching as defense as well) finished 4th. Defense and pitching doesnt win a lot of games it seems, you need offense to get you some key wins. Granted this is just an analysis that I have done NO research on, but that's jsut the impression that i've gotten.