OOTP 19 - Official FAQ Thread!

[lschaef]

Originally Posted by jslmsca

I only play in a fictional league and hate using real stadiums.

(I'm looking forward to the day when such stadiums can be edited directly through OOTP).

Same here. I don't like playing a fictional team and seeing MLB team logos all over the stadium.

It isn't a huge deal, but eventually, it would be nice if the stadiums could pull the team's logo and insert it into the stadium graphics.

If the pawns can grow legs anything should be possible.

[spartacus007]

Originally Posted by lschaef

Same here. I don't like playing a fictional team and seeing MLB team logos all over the stadium.

It isn't a huge deal, but eventually, it would be nice if the stadiums could pull the team's logo and insert it into the stadium graphics.

If the pawns can grow legs anything should be possible.

I'm hoping my computer and OOTP will cooperate on importing 3D stadiums this year. I play 19th Century and want to delete some of the lightposts and scoreboards from stadiums and import them back in.

[jaysfan17]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

It irritates me to see the several things wrong with the minors. The minor leagues are a different animal from the majors, and in my opinion OOTP does not properly reflect that. Someday, perhaps, there'll finally be an appetite to correct these longstanding issues. (To be fair, most of these items are on the smaller side, but the little details matter when taken in aggregate.)

Until that day, I'll just keep researching and compiling data on the real minor leagues. (My annual research project is about to take another jump upward in details recorded, though I will eventually need someone else to write a bit of software to make the best use of the data.)

Issues like what?

[JaBurns]

Originally Posted by zappa1

I have a problem with missing award icons in my OOTP18 game. Has this been fixed for 19? I've seen other people have reported this, also.

Please tell me this is fixed, every time I look at a player with awards during his career I utter a foul word.

[drksd4848]

What I want to know is, have you guys fixed the issue where when a team signs me as a GM for $600,000, the money never shows up in my real life bank account.

Has this been addressed? My wife is getting impatient.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by jaysfan17

Issues like what?

Here's some...

• Inability to select between first half, second half, and overall standings for leagues using the split-season format (an interface oversight that has been around for about ten versions of OOTP now);
• Incorrect tie-breaking procedures for the minors, especially for split-season leagues;
• Improper playoff formats and playoff schedules, especially for leagues using the split-season;
• No way for a post-season to end with co-champions or no declared champion (something which has happened in real life on several occasions);
• Lack of All-Star Game format options which have been by real-life minor leagues;
• Lack of single-admission doubleheaders, a frequent occurrence in the real minors (this item applies to major leagues in OOTP as well);
• Doubleheaders that are always two 9-inning games, as compared to real life's other options of a 9-inning and a 7-inning game, or two 7-inning games;
• Attendance patterns which do not match that found in the real minors (though to be fair I can't fault OOTP's makers for that—it's not a subject, even for the majors, which is examined to any degree);
• Games can be suspended under a much wider range of situations than in the majors, something which OOTP does not recreate (although I would argue suspended games should be removed from the game);
• The way postponed games are made up is not correct; this is of particular note for split-season leagues (the real minors use a much simpler procedure as compared to the majors);
• Leagues always play out the full regular season schedule—i.e. postponed games are always made up. This is quite unrealistic, as most minor leagues do not play out the full schedule each year due to weather. (Note that this issue applies to major leagues in OOTP as well, though not to the same degree. One of the things that makes baseball a unique sport is that, sometimes, not all of a club's scheduled games are played during the season. OOTP does not recreate this unique aspect to the real sport.)

As I said, most of these are small matters (though I would rank that last one as quite significant, as cancelled games have an impact on playoff races), but they do add up.

[jslmsca]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Here's some...

I admire your attention to detail.

[Padreman]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Here's some...

• Inability to select between first half, second half, and overall standings for leagues using the split-season format (an interface oversight that has been around for about ten versions of OOTP now);
• Incorrect tie-breaking procedures for the minors, especially for split-season leagues;
• Improper playoff formats and playoff schedules, especially for leagues using the split-season;
• No way for a post-season to end with co-champions or no declared champion (something which has happened in real life on several occasions);
• Lack of All-Star Game format options which have been by real-life minor leagues;
• Lack of single-admission doubleheaders, a frequent occurrence in the real minors (this item applies to major leagues in OOTP as well);
• Doubleheaders that are always two 9-inning games, as compared to real life's other options of a 9-inning and a 7-inning game, or two 7-inning games;
• Attendance patterns which do not match that found in the real minors (though to be fair I can't fault OOTP's makers for that—it's not a subject, even for the majors, which is examined to any degree);
• Games can be suspended under a much wider range of situations than in the majors, something which OOTP does not recreate (although I would argue suspended games should be removed from the game);
• The way postponed games are made up is not correct; this is of particular note for split-season leagues (the real minors use a much simpler procedure as compared to the majors);
• Leagues always play out the full regular season schedule—i.e. postponed games are always made up. This is quite unrealistic, as most minor leagues do not play out the full schedule each year due to weather. (Note that this issue applies to major leagues in OOTP as well, though not to the same degree. One of the things that makes baseball a unique sport is that, sometimes, not all of a club's scheduled games are played during the season. OOTP does not recreate this unique aspect to the real sport.)

As I said, most of these are small matters (though I would rank that last one as quite significant, as cancelled games have an impact on playoff races), but they do add up.

LGO is a genius

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by jslmsca

I admire your attention to detail.

It's a double-edged sword, to be sure. But it has led me to dig into things I never would have otherwise. And I've learned a lot of things that, to me at least, were quite interesting...

[Curve Ball Dave]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

• Leagues always play out the full regular season schedule—i.e. postponed games are always made up.

Not saying this is incorrect, or otherwise disagreeing, but it was explained that due to limitations in programming the regular season can't "end" until all of the games are played.

[zappa1]

I've just had it happen to me replaying the 1978 season. Pittsburgh finished 91-70. I managing the Phillies finished 91-71. I missed by half a game. The Pirates never made up the game they were missing. I was mad. What if the Pirates lost that last game? We'd be tied. I got gyped.

[zappa1]

Here ya go.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by Curve Ball Dave

Not saying this is incorrect, or otherwise disagreeing, but it was explained that due to limitations in programming the regular season can't "end" until all of the games are played.

Not quite correct since 'as played' schedules can be used for MLB historical leagues, and those frequently have clubs not finishing with the same number of games played.

My understanding is that it is due to limitations in the financial engine: if clubs end up with something other than their allotted slate of home games, things might get unbalanced. Given that the disparity in home games due to cancelled games at the major league level is quite small, even in the past, I have a hard time seeing how that would happen.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by zappa1

I've just had it happen to me replaying the 1978 season. Pittsburgh finished 91-70. I managing the Phillies finished 91-71. I missed by half a game. The Pirates never made up the game they were missing. I was mad. What if the Pirates lost that last game? We'd be tied. I got gyped.

Looks like your replay used the 'as played' MLB schedule for that season, rather than the original schedule. The one NL game missing is between Pittsburgh and Cincinnati, which is exactly the one game not played in real life. (That game wasn't made up in real life, as it had no bearing on the pennant race in either division.)

Interesting historical point about the standings as shown from your replay: prior to the early 1950s, that would have been the final standings, as the rule at the time was that all postponed games had to be made up by the scheduled end of the regular season. The prospect of a team winning or losing a pennant due to a rain out on the final day of the season is what prompted MLB to change the rule, allowing a postponed game having a bearing on a pennant race to be made up, even if it was after the scheduled end of the season.

[zappa1]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Looks like your replay used the 'as played' MLB schedule for that season, rather than the original schedule. The one NL game missing is between Pittsburgh and Cincinnati, which is exactly the one game not played in real life. (That game wasn't made up in real life, as it had no bearing on the pennant race in either division.)

Interesting historical point about the standings as shown from your replay: prior to the early 1950s, that would have been the final standings, as the rule at the time was that all postponed games had to be made up by the scheduled end of the regular season. The prospect of a team winning or losing a pennant due to a rain out on the final day of the season is what prompted MLB to change the rule, allowing a postponed game having a bearing on a pennant race to be made up, even if it was after the scheduled end of the season.

Yes. That is correct. It was played with historical lineups. In the AL, (in real life), the Yankees and Red Sox played 163 as they had a 1 game playoff. Bucky "bleepin" Dent!!!!!

This is the rare thing that can happen when you play a real replay. I got burned, but in real life Pittsburgh would have to play that final game against Cincinnati. In my scenario, anyway.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by zappa1

Yes. That is correct. It was played with historical lineups. In the AL, (in real life), the Yankees and Red Sox played 163 as they had a 1 game playoff. Bucky "bleepin" Dent!!!!!

This is the rare thing that can happen when you play a real replay. I got burned, but in real life Pittsburgh would have to play that final game against Cincinnati. In my scenario, anyway.

It would be nice if in such situations OOTP could recognize what is happening and schedule that postponed CIN vs. PIT game. It need not change any other games in the as played schedules, but only in scenarios such as yours.

[Ty Cobb]

be getting audio play-by-play?

or did you add it in 18 and I therefor didn't find out...

[Orioles1966]

Has there been any changes to the Schedule editor?

Would love to see a neutral site option.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by Orioles1966

Has there been any changes to the Schedule editor?

Would love to see a neutral site option.

If nothing else, the option to specify a park should be added to the schedule file structure. Neutral, alternate, or park changes during a year could be incorporated that way.

[loco_pabs]

Any word on if Player ID will be included in the various stats tables as a value that can be seen? This can be extremely helpful when trying to communicate about a certain player. If you type in a player id into the search bar, it only brings up the one player. So if you have 8 John Smith's, type in the right id and only the one you want will show up.