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Old 05-23-2011, 05:57 AM   #261
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:35 AM   #262
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 05-23-2011, 11:22 AM   #263
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One personal benefit to the delay -- by 6/20 I'll have completed a third season in my fiction league, and gotten one more shot to win the championship before I start my new league with 12*.


*I'll be taking the new MLB quickstart, expanding by two teams, and playing a brand new team in the AL. I've never played with the DH -- and personally been against it as a rule -- for so long that I realized I don't know how having it would change my approach, tactically or strategically. Time to find out.
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Without the double switch you will find yourself leaving pitchers in longer when they are pitching well and yanking them faster when they aren't. It's kind of a d'oh thing, but it's true.
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Old 05-23-2011, 12:21 PM   #265
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Hopefully we'll get some screen shots this week


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Old 05-23-2011, 12:32 PM   #266
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Thank gawd for iOOTP. It's helping me wait till June 29th. Although I must admit I've very close to buying 11 too!
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Old 05-23-2011, 01:03 PM   #267
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Without the double switch you will find yourself leaving pitchers in longer when they are pitching well and yanking them faster when they aren't. It's kind of a d'oh thing, but it's true.
I could see that. I'm also curious to see 1) how often I pinch hit, and 2) whether or not I ever sacrifice bunt again.
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Old 05-23-2011, 01:21 PM   #268
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The guys that make this game continue to lie through their teeth. they said they would have some screen shots in a week, it's not been over 10 days.

I think they just want to push the customer's buttons until they say screw it.
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Old 05-23-2011, 01:56 PM   #269
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Dr. Dru, you will now be blasted for the next two weeks by walls of text. Brace yourself.....cue el lobo
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Without the double switch you will find yourself leaving pitchers in longer when they are pitching well and yanking them faster when they aren't. It's kind of a d'oh thing, but it's true.
I am a huge fan of the Double Switch...I like to move around the bad hitting slot of the pitcher and also taking out a player who is 0-3, 0-4...or giving 1 of my top players the rest of the day off after a good game.....I havent used the DH in a league in years. (1 league started w/o it used it for 12 yrs then got rid of it)
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I could see that. I'm also curious to see 1) how often I pinch hit, and 2) whether or not I ever sacrifice bunt again.
You won't pinch hit as much, which is good. You will still pinch hit for your weaker batters, and your best pinch hitter will be available far more often when you really need him. You may or may not SB again. I've been in places where it was the best call, but very rarely.

The DH game is both easier and less complicated to manage as you have fewer strategic options. Whether it is more fun or less fun depends on what you like.
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According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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The non-DH game is both easier and less complicated to manage as you have fewer strategic options. Whether it is more fun or less fun depends on what you like.
That is the exact opposite of the truth...Its harder and more complicated...Do u take out a SP at 90 pitches in the 7th when he is pitching well yet u have 2 runners on 2 outs and r down by 1 run? a DH league ala American League its rare that u pinch hit even for your weakest hitter because in most cases your best 9 players are already in the lineup, whereas most NL teams have guys who cant field much anymore whose only calling is to PH ala Daryle Ward & Lenny Harris.
Pitch counts are generally higher by about 20 in the AL because you wont have to take him out for a good hitter in late innings.
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It's sad that I would be excited about one screen shot. I hope it's a screen shot of the AI rejecting a human's trade proposal.
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Old 05-23-2011, 04:57 PM   #277
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That is the exact opposite of the truth...Its harder and more complicated...Do u take out a SP at 90 pitches in the 7th when he is pitching well yet u have 2 runners on 2 outs and r down by 1 run? a DH league ala American League its rare that u pinch hit even for your weakest hitter because in most cases your best 9 players are already in the lineup, whereas most NL teams have guys who cant field much anymore whose only calling is to PH ala Daryle Ward & Lenny Harris.
Pitch counts are generally higher by about 20 in the AL because you wont have to take him out for a good hitter in late innings.
"The designated hitter provides more offense and a more exciting game overall for the fans. That was the initial reason for authorizing the designated hitter and I think that reason still pertains. The purists feel that it alters the game from a standpoint of strategy. I think that is true." - Baltimore Orioles owner Peter Angelos

"I played in both leagues and enjoyed playing the National League game better than the American League game. The game itself is better without the designated hitter. There is more strategy involved with double switches, balance in the bullpen and the benches becoming more important, and that adds to the excitement of the game for players." - Tom Candiotti

"Finally, the game is simply way more interesting without the DH than with it. Period. Ask any manager which is more strategically challenging — managing a game under NL rules or AL rules. It's no contest. It's baseball's cerebral side that separates it from all the other games ever invented. And the game is way more cerebral with no DH than with it. That's one thing that hasn't changed in 30 years — and never will." - Jayson Stark, espn.com
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The guys that make this game continue to lie through their teeth. they said they would have some screen shots in a week, it's not been over 10 days.

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"Baseball is simply a better game without the DH. " - Bob Costas

"The top ten reasons why the DH is lame (by The DonutRun Soapbox):

10. It makes pitching a bigger wiener job than it already is...you already only get to play every four games (starters) or only a few innings (relievers)...the DH only lets you play in half of each inning you are in!

9. Most major league pitchers were, at one point, the best athlete on their little league or high school team - and great hitters - they simply lost the skill because it wasn't valued. They have to practice longer to keep both their arm and their bat sharp? That's toooooo bad, especially considering #6.

8. You're more likely to get hurt boarding the Lear jet with its low door than you are running the bases, so that excuse is out the window.

7. If you get tired after running 90 feet, nobody should be paying you hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars to be an athlete, so that excuse was holding hands with number 3 when it went out the window.

6. Only three things in life (but that's a different column) are more fun than batting practice, so why rob pitchers of one of life's great pleasures?

5. The strategy involved in pinch hitting for the pitcher or trying to stretch a pitcher's stay because of his place in the line up is magnificently entertaining...people who don't get that just don't get the essence of baseball and its nuances.

4. It keeps fat guys and old guys in the game. Sure, it's fun to see Cecil Fielder or Methusaleh crush one, but lets make them earn their money or send them to the town softball league where they belong!

3. It dilutes the talent pool in two ways: first, some prospects have got to chose the outfield over the mound because they don't want to give up hitting and secondly, teams hoard hitters who could be playing in place of weaker players on other teams.

2. Look how cool it is when Steve Avery drives in three runs with a triple to help his own cause in the post season...now that's baseball.

1. Basically, if you can't do it all you gotta go back to practice and learn how...or go be a punter."
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Old 05-23-2011, 05:33 PM   #280
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I've been waiting for an announcement on the release date. I just pre-ordered.

I haven't looked at OOTP games in a few years, so I can't wait to see what's new.
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