Who is your Franchise Guy? - Page 14

Chicagofan76 · 08-18-2011, 09:24 PM

I'm torn on this 1. I hate Joe Morgan the announcer but he is 1 of the top 3 2B of All Time (Hornsby & Alomar 1&2) Bench was a great defensive C and is probably the 2nd best C behind Pudge Rodriguez (Mauer isnt there yet) Barry Larkin is my 3rd fav SS of all time (Guillen & Dunston)

I am gonna go with Johnny Bench.

bear · 08-21-2011, 01:09 PM

I'll go for Bench. IMO best of all time a his position. Morgan and Rose would follow. Larkin probably edges Robby. I'd have to say that Robby's case is weakened by dint of playing half of his career with the Orioles. If his entire career stats had come for the Reds he'd give Bench a run for the money.

1998 Yankees · 08-21-2011, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bear

I'll go for Bench. IMO best of all time a his position. Morgan and Rose would follow. Larkin probably edges Robby. I'd have to say that Robby's case is weakened by dint of playing half of his career with the Orioles. If his entire career stats had come for the Reds he'd give Bench a run for the money.

That would give Robinson, one of the game's greatest players, an "oh-fer" in this series, since Ripken is Mr. Oriole. "Time with team" is a definite factor here. He may still take Mr. Red, though. He was with them for 10 years; he spent only 6 seasons with the Orioles. It's easy to forget that he spent his last 5 seasons with the Dodgers, Angels, and Indians.

But I'm pretty sure Bench will take it. Too many people dislike Morgan these days and Rose is banned from consideration. Well, not really, but his banishment is going to cost him popularity votes in a poll like this.

1998 Yankees · 09-08-2011, 11:11 PM

Folks, I apologize indirectly for this thread. USA Today's sport section and columns are disorganized and show signs of being run by individuals suffering from attention deficit disorder.

As with other projects, this one started out with great fanfare only to peter out when the editors got bored. I will never do anything like this again involving stuff from that newspaper or its blogs.

There is a franchise player winner of the Cincinnati Reds from among the candidates that I showed in an earlier post. Some other winners have also been posted; it seems the newspaper lost interest in the project and, guess what, the baseball season is winding down now.

If you are at all interested, the summary page is here: Franchise players: Pick the greatest player on - USATODAY.com

Click on the winner names to see the original blog polls on which the paper was supposed to be reporting voting results every week.

Never again. I should have known with USA Today; it's perfect for today's short attention span folks. Finish up a project as promised? What project?

Chicagofan76 · 09-08-2011, 11:36 PM

It was still a fun project. We should all complain to USA Today for their ADD.

1998 Yankees · 09-08-2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

It was still a fun project. We should all complain to USA Today for their ADD.

Well, I did send them a link to, and a transcript of, that post up there. Doubt that they will care, though. I anticipate them not reading all the way through it, anyway . . .

1998 Yankees · 09-20-2011, 03:09 PM

The Franchise Dodger

1998 Yankees · 09-20-2011, 03:13 PM

The Franchise Cardinal

1998 Yankees · 09-20-2011, 03:14 PM

Franchise Players, so far (sorry, not all results were published in the newspaper):

actionjackson · 09-20-2011, 07:37 PM

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Franchise Players, so far (sorry, not all results were published in the newspaper):

Dood, TBA means To Be Announced, as in not done yet.

Replace the Dodgers TBA with Koufax and the Cardinals TBA with Musial and you're left with Red Sox, Yankees, Tigers, Rangers, Braves, Phillies, and Giants with as yet unnamed Franchise Players. When did this whole thing start? I ask because 1 Franchise Player per week = 30 weeks, so it takes a while to get through them all. If they've done 23, they've been at it for 23 weeks. Patience grasshopper.

EDIT: 23 weeks takes you to the week before they did the voting for the Cardinals, so maybe they took a week off from this for the All-Star Game, but they're pretty close to being on schedule.

1998 Yankees · 09-20-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

Dood, TBA means To Be Announced, as in not done yet.

No, I meant the blog (Daily Pitch) picked the winner and the newspaper (USA Today) did not publish the results in some cases. Reds / Pete Rose for one.

Edit: Looking over the list, I think Rockies / Todd Helton was another who was by omitted USA Today. The rest of the winners got at least some mention in the paper along with voting results. In the beginning, however, they were listing the polls in advance and the results a week later for every franchise. Sometime in late July or early August they sort of lost interest in the idea. I'll continue to post whatever they publish; I read USA Today every day so if they do announce winners, you will see them here.

1998 Yankees · 09-27-2011, 04:06 PM

A blowout, as it should be. There has never been a more giant Giant.

1998 Yankees · 10-11-2011, 10:32 PM

This one wasn't close, either.

Chicagofan76 · 10-12-2011, 07:13 AM

I can't even make a case for anyone else.

jaxmagicman · 10-12-2011, 09:52 AM

I know Willie Mays was good. But how can he win out over the all-time homerun king? He has the most homeruns ever in a season and the most homeruns for a career. He was the most feared hitter of all time.

Cooleyvol · 10-12-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

I know Willie Mays was good. But how can he win out over the all-time homerun king? He has the most homeruns ever in a season and the most homeruns for a career. He was the most feared hitter of all time.

Jax, be serious.

jaxmagicman · 10-12-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

Jax, be serious.

Willie Mays was good, but Bonds was better. Just look at their numbers. Bonds beats him across the board.

Cooleyvol · 10-12-2011, 11:50 AM

Willie did it the right way, IMO.

jaxmagicman · 10-12-2011, 01:00 PM

It is a fan voting, so it really comes down to if someone liked the player or not. I guess numbers don't really come into it.

1998 Yankees · 10-12-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

It is a fan voting, so it really comes down to if someone liked the player or not. I guess numbers don't really come into it.

Perhaps how he got those numbers outweighs the numbers themselves.

08-21-2011, 01:09 PM	#262
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09-08-2011, 11:11 PM	#264
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium, back in 1998. Posts: 8,645	Folks, I apologize indirectly for this thread. USA Today's sport section and columns are disorganized and show signs of being run by individuals suffering from attention deficit disorder. As with other projects, this one started out with great fanfare only to peter out when the editors got bored. I will never do anything like this again involving stuff from that newspaper or its blogs. There is a franchise player winner of the Cincinnati Reds from among the candidates that I showed in an earlier post. Some other winners have also been posted; it seems the newspaper lost interest in the project and, guess what, the baseball season is winding down now. If you are at all interested, the summary page is here: Franchise players: Pick the greatest player on - USATODAY.com Click on the winner names to see the original blog polls on which the paper was supposed to be reporting voting results every week. Never again. I should have known with USA Today; it's perfect for today's short attention span folks. Finish up a project as promised? What project? Last edited by 1998 Yankees; 09-08-2011 at 11:15 PM.

09-20-2011, 03:09 PM	#267
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium, back in 1998. Posts: 8,645	The Franchise Dodger Attached Images Last edited by 1998 Yankees; 09-20-2011 at 03:20 PM.

09-20-2011, 03:13 PM	#268
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium, back in 1998. Posts: 8,645	The Franchise Cardinal Attached Images

09-20-2011, 03:14 PM	#269
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium, back in 1998. Posts: 8,645	Franchise Players, so far (sorry, not all results were published in the newspaper): Attached Images Last edited by 1998 Yankees; 09-20-2011 at 03:20 PM.

08-18-2011, 09:24 PM	#261
Chicagofan76 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diamond, IL Posts: 6,339 Infractions: 2/2 (3)	I'm torn on this 1. I hate Joe Morgan the announcer but he is 1 of the top 3 2B of All Time (Hornsby & Alomar 1&2) Bench was a great defensive C and is probably the 2nd best C behind Pudge Rodriguez (Mauer isnt there yet) Barry Larkin is my 3rd fav SS of all time (Guillen & Dunston) I am gonna go with Johnny Bench.

09-08-2011, 11:36 PM	#265
Chicagofan76 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diamond, IL Posts: 6,339 Infractions: 2/2 (3)	It was still a fun project. We should all complain to USA Today for their ADD.

09-27-2011, 04:06 PM	#272
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium, back in 1998. Posts: 8,645	A blowout, as it should be. There has never been a more giant Giant. Attached Images

10-11-2011, 10:32 PM	#273
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium, back in 1998. Posts: 8,645	Ted Williams, Boston Red Sox All-Time Franchise Player This one wasn't close, either. Attached Images

10-12-2011, 07:13 AM	#274
Chicagofan76 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diamond, IL Posts: 6,339 Infractions: 2/2 (3)	I can't even make a case for anyone else.

10-12-2011, 09:52 AM	#275
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	I know Willie Mays was good. But how can he win out over the all-time homerun king? He has the most homeruns ever in a season and the most homeruns for a career. He was the most feared hitter of all time. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

10-12-2011, 11:50 AM	#278
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	Willie did it the right way, IMO.

10-12-2011, 01:00 PM	#279
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	It is a fan voting, so it really comes down to if someone liked the player or not. I guess numbers don't really come into it. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved. Last edited by jaxmagicman; 10-12-2011 at 01:02 PM.