2006 Oakland A's Thread

[Skipaway]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

Nope, Reggie played MVP quality ball in only two seasons in his career and both were with the A's, 1969 and 1974. He played with the Yankees from ages 31-35, and whilst Jackson was still a splendid hitter, he missed more games and his defense was poor. His best seasons with New York were worth 7-8 wins above replacement. Bradley was near that level of value in a mere 101 games played during his fine 2003 campaign.

So, basically your argument doesn't hold water, as if when it comes to controversy, a good player is dead weight, but an excellent one, mebbe worth one or two wins more per year, is worth the trouble. Pfft.

Actually, if even the controversy theory is true, we can safely assume the bigger the star, the bigger the controversy from the same kind of incident would be.

Also the bigger the star, the bigger the salary at risk.

Also the bigger the star, the harder to find replacement player in case of anything bad happens.

Actually, the whole volatility idea wouldn't support the theory how bigger stars would be more worth the trouble, unless a team is horrible at accounting for the risks.

[Green & Gold Heart]

Originally Posted by Faroo6

Seattle should have absolutely no chance against Harden tomorrow after their offensive futility today and Friday. Here's to Harden getting his first career no-no.

D00d, you just jinxed it.

[darkhorse]

A's now 4-2 and leading the AL West despite batting .212 as a team. Impressive.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/oa...s9q_S0SGQj0bYF

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

But last year's White Sox loved each other!

Is that affection still present?

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Bobbuttons

Hope they love being 1-4.

They love being 1-5 even more.

[Green & Gold Heart]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

A's now 4-2 and leading the AL West despite batting .212 as a team. Impressive.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/oa...s9q_S0SGQj0bYF

This:

Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

18 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs.

will do that.

[Faroo6]

Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

D00d, you just jinxed it.

Harden is so good you can't jinx him. Although if someone gets a cheap single with 2 out in the ninth them you can all yell at me.

[Spielman]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

Nope, Reggie played MVP quality ball in only two seasons in his career and both were with the A's, 1969 and 1974. He played with the Yankees from ages 31-35, and whilst Jackson was still a splendid hitter, he missed more games and his defense was poor. His best seasons with New York were worth 7-8 wins above replacement.

This is where I don't necessarily trust the defensive components of WARP. Jackson's 1980 and 1974 seasons are almost exactly equivalent at the plate, with a slight edge to 1980. I find it hard to believe that he was really nearly two games less effective on defense in 1980, even while playing 33 fewer games in the field.

[Faroo6]

The A's lineup is currently ranked 33210 on ESPN's Baseball Challenge.

[bananapancakes]

Is it too soon to start the Dan Johnson Hit Watch? This reminds me of Chucky Thomas from last year..

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Spielman

This is where I don't necessarily trust the defensive components of WARP. Jackson's 1980 and 1974 seasons are almost exactly equivalent at the plate, with a slight edge to 1980.

I find it hard to believe that he was really nearly two games less effective on defense in 1980, even while playing 33 fewer games in the field.

Actually, because he played more in '74, he's valued at one more equivalent run.

It's not only defense. Replacement values are quite different for RF and DH.

[Spielman]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

Replacement values are quite different for RF and DH.

Ahhhhh.

That explains it. Imagine if he'd been a DH all season instead of only a quarter of it. Steinbrenner'd be asking for a refund of his salary.

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Spielman

Ahhhhh.

That explains it. Imagine if he'd been a DH all season instead of only a quarter of it. Steinbrenner'd be asking for a refund of his salary.

Hardly, as I don't believe Hafner or Ortiz's respective employers are currently unsatisfied. Does playing DH fulltime reduce their value, say compared to a Yankees third sacker? Sure.

[Green & Gold Heart]

Originally Posted by bananapancakes

Is it too soon to start the Dan Johnson Hit Watch? This reminds me of Chucky Thomas from last year..

The Chronicle said he will likely sit today, which should be OK. He played really well in Minnesota last year in front of his friends and family so hopefully that's where he gets his first hit.

[Green & Gold Heart]

dola,

Sure enough, lineups are up and he is on the bench:

Ellis 2B
Kotsay CF
Crosby SS
Chavez 3B
Thomas DH
Bradley RF
Payton LF
Kendall C
Swisher 1B

[Faroo6]

I hate my cable company. I have the Braves and Giants on both TBS and FSN but no A's game.

[Green & Gold Heart]

Originally Posted by Faroo6

I hate my cable company. I have the Braves and Giants on both TBS and FSN but no A's game.

Digital cable is still showing the MLB Extra Innings free preview here so I have the Mariners broadcast.

[darkhorse]

Harden with 4 perfect innings and five K's so far. Dayam, them A's can pitch and catch.

[darkhorse]

Ellis is on fire today!

[Faroo6]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

Harden with 4 perfect innings and five K's so far. Dayam, them A's can pitch and catch.

You said the 'P' word!!!!