Time Warp Baseball - Page 134

canadiancreed · 11-01-2004, 05:31 PM

You're telling me. I can't believe after winning the whole enchalada that we're predicted to finish fifth. I mean seriously, we're not *that* bad.

Vris · 11-01-2004, 06:38 PM

Yes you are. My goal this season is to be better than you. If I can do that we are on to something!

canadiancreed · 11-01-2004, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vris

Yes you are. My goal this season is to be better than you. If I can do that we are on to something!

And what if you finish behind us (again) ?

DamnYankees · 11-01-2004, 08:02 PM

Hey Matt, query about the league.

What's going on with the power numbers? I know you said that your league totals end up mirroring the real life totals, but with the naked eye, it sure doesn't look like it. The year is now 1948, and we should be right in the middle of the power era stretching from The late 20s to te early 60s. But as of now, only 5 active players have as many as 225 homers, and their ages are 39, 37, 39, 38, and 35. Only 1 player on the top 25 active homer list is under 30 (Ray Kress) and he has only hit 88! Also, only 1 man has even hit 400 home runs.

I realize the war took some chunks out of people's careers, but isn't this a little out of whack? By 1948, DiMaggio had 303 and Teddy Ballgame had 197, with 13 years left to go for Williams. Here are a few other of the leaders as of 1948:

Greenberg - 331
Mize - 257
Ralph Kiner - 74 (at age 24)
Rudy York - 277
Ott - 511
Gherig - 493
Foxx - 534

If someone knows of a place where I can see the real "active leaders" as of 1948, I'd love to see it. Baseball-Reference doesn't seem to have this ability.

I guess I just don't understand the lack of power. Any explanations for this overasked question?

canadiancreed · 11-01-2004, 08:13 PM

*shurgs* maybe we had better pitchers than MLB did at the time?

I found that this year (From what I noticed) there were a decent amount of home runs for yearly totals....no Ruth/Bonds feats, but healthy jsut the same (well if you exclude the Reds), so maybe tis' a slow proces?

mauboy · 11-01-2004, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdw

Carlton wrote:

> As I will release Ervin Skjerly...

I'm surprised you didn't keep him as coverage at CF and 2B. Sure, he's declining. But he still takes a walk and his range at 2B looks very good (and it's not bad at all in CF). Pokey's a year younger, but is coming off a horrid season. I don't know what your plans in CF are. Zeke was horrid out there last season, and has worse range than Ervin.

I thought Ervin might be a little insurance, even while fading.

The Yanks don't really have a spot for him. One would assume they will run Dimeo out there again at 2B. Ping's in CF. A pair of 37 year old to Ervin's 39. I guess he could be coverage for them as well if they get hurt or hit the wall.

Boy are there a lot of old players in TWB.

John

Nice.

Matt from TN · 11-02-2004, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamnYankees

Hey Matt, query about the league.

What's going on with the power numbers? I know you said that your league totals end up mirroring the real life totals, but with the naked eye, it sure doesn't look like it.

My league totals do mirror real life. The trouble is, there are more mid-level power hitters in TWB. That steals HR's away from the top level guys. Our total HR's are very close, as are our other total offensive stats. TWB's league ERA is a tad higher than IRL and always has been, but our offensive stats are in line. The only difference as you noted is the HR leaders.

In the past I have edited down some of the mid-level guys to allow our top sluggers to reach more like RL totals, but I stay away from doing that now that their are real GM's.

If I raised the total # of league HR's, our mid-level guys would be hitting 20 instead of 15 and our weaker ones would hit 15 instead of 5-10. That's more of a concern to me.

metsgeek · 11-02-2004, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt from TN

My league totals do mirror real life. The trouble is, there are more mid-level power hitters in TWB. That steals HR's away from the top level guys. Our total HR's are very close, as are our other total offensive stats. TWB's league ERA is a tad higher than IRL and always has been, but our offensive stats are in line. The only difference as you noted is the HR leaders.

In the past I have edited down some of the mid-level guys to allow our top sluggers to reach more like RL totals, but I stay away from doing that now that their are real GM's.

If I raised the total # of league HR's, our mid-level guys would be hitting 20 instead of 15 and our weaker ones would hit 15 instead of 5-10. That's more of a concern to me.

This happens in nearly every historical recreation I've seen.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind if you edited a couple of the rookies each year before the draft. You could bump up the power of a couple of the obvious first round players, and knock down a few of the lesser rookies' power.

Matt from TN · 11-02-2004, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metsgeek

To be honest, I wouldn't mind if you edited a couple of the rookies each year before the draft. You could bump up the power of a couple of the obvious first round players, and knock down a few of the lesser rookies' power.

Oh I do edit rookies. It's the only way I can control talents now. I edit down power talents of middle infielders and I look very closely at overall talents. I also have a RL players league I run in unison w/ TWB so that when I import RL rookies, I can compare the types of talents they had with the talents TWB rookies have.

Of course, after the draft, I can't control them any longer. That's why we're seeing almost as many 2B's with 10+ HR's as 1B's in TWB. That's "fate" or development in ootp.

fhomess · 11-02-2004, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt from TN

That's "fate" or development in ootp.

Ah yes, the cruel hand of "development in ootp" strikes again.

jdw · 11-02-2004, 01:44 PM

> 5. Reds (85-69, 1st) - Their pitching
> staff is mostly intact from last season, and
> they will need to shoulder more of the load
> with most of the key offensive catalysts
> from last season's championship team now
> retired.
>
> Top Starters:
> SP Schoolboy Emberling (15-15, 3.54)
> SP Ace Shipley (17-13, 3.03)
>
> 1B Orval Mitts (.326, 79 RBI)
> 2B Skeeter Schaldemose (.330, 15 HR, 81 RBI, 160 BB)
> CF Artie Albrecht (.281, 12 HR, 90 RBI)
>
> Top Prospects:
> SP Doug McMurray (AA)

Wow. If they're rated this low, mark them down as a potential sleeper pick for me.

The loss of Foster Hempkins at 3B is the hardest one of the regulars to leave. But I really, really, really like Go Go Tomlinson as a 3B prospect. He's 4/4/4/6 right now, which is really marginal. But his talent is 6/4/8/6, and if they're willing to throw him to the wolves to get him the fulltime playing time that will be needed to develop that power up to 8, they have a big time power hitter to hit somewhere behind "Mr. On Base" Skeeter. That's something they were badly lacking last year. Go Go might not totally replace Foster this season, but if he gets over the bumps, he could have a very solid power years, especially in the second half. They might end up losing something, but it should be a black hole and could be surprisingly positive.

They have the chance to lose *nothing* at SS despite Pee Wee's retirement. That comes from a massive Pee Wee fan. But barring Doc's BA going right in the toilet (which is always possible), he's going to walk a ton and get on more than Pee Wee. His fielding at this point is better than Pee Wee's last year. Pee Wee also spent almost all of the year out of the top of the order (where is good OBP was most valuable), and then slumped it up something fierce once he was moved up late in the year. With Doc batting either #1 or #2, the Reds should see more people on infront of Skeeter.

The Reds had horrid play last season out of their wing OF:

RF Herman Baily, .245/.316/.338, 11/4/5 EBH, 43/49 R/RBI
LF Flint Rutty, .231/.296/.338, 6/7/4 EBH, 33/31 R/RBI

That is mind numblingly bad for a pair of *offensive* positions.

Rutty had been a much better hitter before the war, but spending 1946 in AAA (and possibly some side effects from the war) seemed to trash him. He has the "talent" to hit much better, but it's hard to have much faith in him since he was given a fair shot last season.

On the other hand, Flamingo Maringo is a 28 year old former 1-4 pick who plays RF. He currently has 3/6/6/8 overall, and the upside of 4/6/7/9 talent. He may be a low BA guy, but the walks and power likely make up for that. In an era where walks are going through the roof, he like other Reds has a major talent for getting them. And for power, this is a guy who blasted 34 HR in the minors lat year. Baily has 5/5/4/4 talent with 5/5/4/3 overall... Flamingo is better than him *right now* if they play to their current talents, and smokes him off the charts if he develops to his ability. Granted, one is going to have to stomach a low BA. But down in the line-up he gives you power to move people along, and also those walks that can start a new chain in the offense. Maringo has the chance to be a big offensive improvement over Baily. While leaves the Reds to try to shake out something in LF - either Rutty getting back to his former level, or a trade with some team that has excess OF talent. Almost any LF who brings one thing to the table (be it some nice OBP or some SLG) would be an improvement over last year. I would think that should be one Chris' top goals in looking at the waiver wire, or trolling other teams' rosters for guys with some small talent who just aren't playing because they're blocked.

In CF, Albrecht was one of the "stars" of the team. This misses that his .281/.359/.431 last season was far below his .335/.422/.509 in 1946. Was he over his head in 1946? Was he under his head in 1947? If the Real Artie somewhere in between? He doesn't have to hit .335/.422/.509 again to be an improvement. A small step to .290/.370/.450 is an improvement. That's Artie - room for improvement. Maybe 50% for staying the same, 40% for improvement, and 10% for decline. You like the odds for a player like that.

Catching is a problem, but it was last year. Sennelnekoff is in there for solid defense.

Their offense quite possibly could be better than last year's. Perhaps not early if Go Go and Flamingo struggle, but they could be good down the stretch. A key area needs to be finding a LF if Rutty can't find his pre-war form. But overall, they're not horrible. They're just not flashy. They have a number of guys who could walk a whole bunch - we know Skeeter *will*, Doc should, and Flamingo has the ability. So the team has shot of getting base quite a bit more than their simply BA would reflect. And it's likely that Go Go and Flamingo will bring more HR power to the table than the players the replace, and have a chance at bringing quite a few more.

What they're swimming upstream about is that things seemed to "break right" for them last year, and that resulted in "only" a 85-69 record. Not exactly a dominant team. However, when you look closely at their OF last season, things didn't break right for them at all.

The Reds could fall flat on their face. But if they're above .500 at the break, still in contention _and_ healthy, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up being the 2004 Braves of TWB this season. Chris probably needs to pull off a good move or two. Not great~!, but simply a good fill or two such as LF which will improve the team. But they could be okay.

John

jdw · 11-02-2004, 04:44 PM

canadiancreed wrote:

> You're telling me. I can't believe after winning
> the whole enchalada that we're predicted to
> finish fifth. I mean seriously, we're not *that*
> bad.

I've got your back, Chris. :P

John

Carlton · 11-02-2004, 05:14 PM

Well I am taking your advice John...and may hold on to Ervin...since I don't think Brady of the Yanks liked my offer.

And I really can't see Ervin playing for anyone but the Yanks or Phils

As for my 1st place predicition....

Just like the REAL Phillies...everytime we are picked first...we blow it...lol

All my old guys are now PRONE by the way....so look at alot of DL time and a 4th place finish from the rebuilding Phils

metsgeek · 11-02-2004, 05:31 PM

John, how about an analysis of the Red Sox??

canadiancreed · 11-02-2004, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdw

canadiancreed wrote:

> You're telling me. I can't believe after winning
> the whole enchalada that we're predicted to
> finish fifth. I mean seriously, we're not *that*
> bad.

I've got your back, Chris. :P

John

gracias

jdw · 11-02-2004, 07:21 PM

Mets wrote:

> John, how about an analysis of
> the Red Sox??

You saw what I thought of your two trades over on the TWB boards.

John

Matt from TN · 11-03-2004, 12:00 PM

April 15, 1948

The White Sox jumped out to an early lead in the AL, thanks largely to some great pitching. Detroit is right on their heels, leading the AL in most offensive categories as expected. The Senators got off to a rough start, as did the Red Sox.

In the NL, the Phillies opened the season with the best record in the majors at 10-2. They seem to be hitting on all cylinders, and Maurice Misisca looks to be on his way to an MVP-caliber season. 1947 POY Mickey Lonergan is already 3-0 and is 2nd in the NL with a 1.04 ERA. Even reliever Doyle Weaver has had an impact by saving an astounding 6 games in 7 appearances and not allowing a run yet. The Cardinals are in 2nd place, thanks to a .297 team batting average, and the Reds seem ready to hush their critics with a major league best 2.69 team ERA that has them just 2.5 games back. The Cubs are having another rough start, but the Braves seem dead set on another disappointing season with a miserable 2-11 start.

In The News

On April 5th, the White Sox lost to the Tigers by an 11-7 score at Comiskey Park with Jack Brickhouse at the WGN-TV mike. This was the first telecast in Chicago history. The Sox scored 5 runs in the 7th to tie the game at 6-6, but the Tigers quickly matched them with 5 in the 8th en route to the win.

Former Negro League great Chief Harrington became the first black pitcher in the majors but lost his Opening Day start 4-3 at Washington. He was then plastered for 7 runs off 13 hits in 8 innings of what became an 11-9 10th inning loss to the A's in his Yankee Stadium debut. His first victory came in his next start, April 10th at Detroit in which he allowed just 1 earned run over 7.2 innings in a 5-4 victory.

Meanwhile, the A's inserted former Negro Leagues catcher Hershel Lee into the cleanup spot in their lineup. He has hit .304 so far this season, hitting safely in all but two of his starts. His first career hit was a single off White Sox pitcher Bob Bussmann on Opening Day, and his first career homerun came on April 10th off Earl Boyd in a 5-3 loss at Chicago.

On April 6th, Lee faced Chief Harrington in the first ever black pitcher-hitter duel in major league history. Lee went 1-for-5. Harrington is expected to miss another former Negro Leaguer, Al Jackson, when the Yankees host the Indians on April 19-21 because Chief is scheduled to pitch on the 18th and 22nd.

Code:

American League Standings 
  
Chicago (A)       8  4 .667 - 
Detroit           8  5 .615 0.5
Cleveland         7  6 .538 1.5
St. Louis (A)     7  6 .538 1.5
Philadelphia (A)  6  6 .500 2.0
Boston (A)        5  7 .417 3.0
Washington        5  8 .385 3.5
New York (A)      4  8 .333 4.0
 
National League Standings 
 
Philadelphia (N) 10  2 .833 -
St. Louis (N)     8  4 .667 2.0 
Cincinnati        8  5 .615 2.5 
Pittsburgh        7  6 .538 3.5
Brooklyn          6  6 .500 4.0
New York (N)      6  7 .462 4.5
Chicago (N)       3  9 .250 7.0
Boston (N)        2 11 .154 8.5

AL AVG
.471 Peaches Badeau, PHA
.423 Carl Sandoz, DET
.412 Emerson Meggs, CLE

NL AVG
.455 Maurice Misisca, PHI
.452 Mike Fellner, BKN
.444 James Lewis, PHI

AL HOMERUNS
4 Ray Kress, DET
4 Frankie Bowers, SLA
4 Vern Piernatzski, SLA

NL HOMERUNS
6 Maurice Misisca, PHI
4 Tom Howard, NYG
4 Dewey Mickelsen, CHN

AL RBI
18 Jimmy Ditty, NYA
17 Ray Kress, DET
15 Luther Ormiston, DET

NL RBI
19 Maurice Misisca, PHI
18 Artie Albrecht, CIN
15 Tom Howard, NYG

AL STEALS
11 Ping Hung, NYA
7 Hershel Cooley, PHA
5 Homer Jewell, CHA

NL STEALS
11 Jonny Perly, BKN
5 Jack Zenisek, BSN
4 Flint Rutty, CIN

AL ERA
1.17 Bob Finley, WSH
1.65 Raul Velazquez, WSH
2.10 Billy Crowell, CLE

NL ERA
1.04 Schoolboy Emberling, CIN
1.04 Mickey Lonergan, PHI
1.15 Ace Shipley, CIN

AL WINS
3 Hal Andrew, DET
3 Billy Crowell, CLE
2 Eight Players Tied

NL WINS
3 Schoolboy Emberling, CIN
3 John Nolting, PHI
3 Mickey Lonergan, PHI
3 Randall Bray, NYG

AL STRIKEOUTS
19 Micky Guyton, WSH
19 Bob Finley, WSH
18 Chief Harrington, NYA

NL STRIKEOUTS
23 Scottie Allen, BSN
17 Ace Shipley, CIN
16 John Nolting, PHI

AL SAVES
3 Ray Seidel, SLA
2 Five Players Tied

NL SAVES
6 Doyle Weaver, PHI
3 Ben Jaroslawski, STL
3 Orval Keefover Jr, PIT

scprideandms · 11-03-2004, 12:17 PM

Not a very auspicious start for the Allen clan

Cognac still sucking in A ball (.214)
JD debut in AA 1-2 4.63 2 CG
Tequila .229
Bourbon, Jr made it to AAA but 0-1 5.87

Theowannabe · 11-03-2004, 12:28 PM

O'hara's leading A ball in Sb
Sinton in HRs
Xavier in doubles.

X' is looking better than i thought

Vris · 11-03-2004, 01:25 PM

GO BRAVES!

Oh wait.

Okay.

GO BRAVES!

11-01-2004, 05:31 PM	#2661
canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,660	You're telling me. I can't believe after winning the whole enchalada that we're predicted to finish fifth. I mean seriously, we're not that bad. __________________ PT21 PT22

11-01-2004, 06:38 PM	#2662
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,251	Yes you are. My goal this season is to be better than you. If I can do that we are on to something! __________________ None Blog it.

11-01-2004, 08:13 PM	#2665
canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,660	shurgs maybe we had better pitchers than MLB did at the time? I found that this year (From what I noticed) there were a decent amount of home runs for yearly totals....no Ruth/Bonds feats, but healthy jsut the same (well if you exclude the Reds), so maybe tis' a slow proces? __________________ PT21 PT22

11-02-2004, 04:44 PM	#2672
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	canadiancreed wrote: > You're telling me. I can't believe after winning > the whole enchalada that we're predicted to > finish fifth. I mean seriously, we're not that > bad. I've got your back, Chris. :P John Last edited by jdw; 11-02-2004 at 04:54 PM.

11-02-2004, 05:14 PM	#2673
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	Well I am taking your advice John...and may hold on to Ervin...since I don't think Brady of the Yanks liked my offer. And I really can't see Ervin playing for anyone but the Yanks or Phils As for my 1st place predicition.... Just like the REAL Phillies...everytime we are picked first...we blow it...lol All my old guys are now PRONE by the way....so look at alot of DL time and a 4th place finish from the rebuilding Phils __________________ "I am at that stage of my life where I keep myself out of arguments. I am 100% self sufficient spiritually, emotionally & financially. Even if you say 1+1=5, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Enjoy!"

11-01-2004, 08:02 PM	#2664
DamnYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,644	Hey Matt, query about the league. What's going on with the power numbers? I know you said that your league totals end up mirroring the real life totals, but with the naked eye, it sure doesn't look like it. The year is now 1948, and we should be right in the middle of the power era stretching from The late 20s to te early 60s. But as of now, only 5 active players have as many as 225 homers, and their ages are 39, 37, 39, 38, and 35. Only 1 player on the top 25 active homer list is under 30 (Ray Kress) and he has only hit 88! Also, only 1 man has even hit 400 home runs. I realize the war took some chunks out of people's careers, but isn't this a little out of whack? By 1948, DiMaggio had 303 and Teddy Ballgame had 197, with 13 years left to go for Williams. Here are a few other of the leaders as of 1948: Greenberg - 331 Mize - 257 Ralph Kiner - 74 (at age 24) Rudy York - 277 Ott - 511 Gherig - 493 Foxx - 534 If someone knows of a place where I can see the real "active leaders" as of 1948, I'd love to see it. Baseball-Reference doesn't seem to have this ability. I guess I just don't understand the lack of power. Any explanations for this overasked question?

11-02-2004, 01:44 PM	#2671
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	> 5. Reds (85-69, 1st) - Their pitching > staff is mostly intact from last season, and > they will need to shoulder more of the load > with most of the key offensive catalysts > from last season's championship team now > retired. > > Top Starters: > SP Schoolboy Emberling (15-15, 3.54) > SP Ace Shipley (17-13, 3.03) > > 1B Orval Mitts (.326, 79 RBI) > 2B Skeeter Schaldemose (.330, 15 HR, 81 RBI, 160 BB) > CF Artie Albrecht (.281, 12 HR, 90 RBI) > > Top Prospects: > SP Doug McMurray (AA) Wow. If they're rated this low, mark them down as a potential sleeper pick for me. The loss of Foster Hempkins at 3B is the hardest one of the regulars to leave. But I really, really, really like Go Go Tomlinson as a 3B prospect. He's 4/4/4/6 right now, which is really marginal. But his talent is 6/4/8/6, and if they're willing to throw him to the wolves to get him the fulltime playing time that will be needed to develop that power up to 8, they have a big time power hitter to hit somewhere behind "Mr. On Base" Skeeter. That's something they were badly lacking last year. Go Go might not totally replace Foster this season, but if he gets over the bumps, he could have a very solid power years, especially in the second half. They might end up losing something, but it should be a black hole and could be surprisingly positive. They have the chance to lose nothing at SS despite Pee Wee's retirement. That comes from a massive Pee Wee fan. But barring Doc's BA going right in the toilet (which is always possible), he's going to walk a ton and get on more than Pee Wee. His fielding at this point is better than Pee Wee's last year. Pee Wee also spent almost all of the year out of the top of the order (where is good OBP was most valuable), and then slumped it up something fierce once he was moved up late in the year. With Doc batting either #1 or #2, the Reds should see more people on infront of Skeeter. The Reds had horrid play last season out of their wing OF: RF Herman Baily, .245/.316/.338, 11/4/5 EBH, 43/49 R/RBI LF Flint Rutty, .231/.296/.338, 6/7/4 EBH, 33/31 R/RBI That is mind numblingly bad for a pair of offensive positions. Rutty had been a much better hitter before the war, but spending 1946 in AAA (and possibly some side effects from the war) seemed to trash him. He has the "talent" to hit much better, but it's hard to have much faith in him since he was given a fair shot last season. On the other hand, Flamingo Maringo is a 28 year old former 1-4 pick who plays RF. He currently has 3/6/6/8 overall, and the upside of 4/6/7/9 talent. He may be a low BA guy, but the walks and power likely make up for that. In an era where walks are going through the roof, he like other Reds has a major talent for getting them. And for power, this is a guy who blasted 34 HR in the minors lat year. Baily has 5/5/4/4 talent with 5/5/4/3 overall... Flamingo is better than him right now if they play to their current talents, and smokes him off the charts if he develops to his ability. Granted, one is going to have to stomach a low BA. But down in the line-up he gives you power to move people along, and also those walks that can start a new chain in the offense. Maringo has the chance to be a big offensive improvement over Baily. While leaves the Reds to try to shake out something in LF - either Rutty getting back to his former level, or a trade with some team that has excess OF talent. Almost any LF who brings one thing to the table (be it some nice OBP or some SLG) would be an improvement over last year. I would think that should be one Chris' top goals in looking at the waiver wire, or trolling other teams' rosters for guys with some small talent who just aren't playing because they're blocked. In CF, Albrecht was one of the "stars" of the team. This misses that his .281/.359/.431 last season was far below his .335/.422/.509 in 1946. Was he over his head in 1946? Was he under his head in 1947? If the Real Artie somewhere in between? He doesn't have to hit .335/.422/.509 again to be an improvement. A small step to .290/.370/.450 is an improvement. That's Artie - room for improvement. Maybe 50% for staying the same, 40% for improvement, and 10% for decline. You like the odds for a player like that. Catching is a problem, but it was last year. Sennelnekoff is in there for solid defense. Their offense quite possibly could be better than last year's. Perhaps not early if Go Go and Flamingo struggle, but they could be good down the stretch. A key area needs to be finding a LF if Rutty can't find his pre-war form. But overall, they're not horrible. They're just not flashy. They have a number of guys who could walk a whole bunch - we know Skeeter will, Doc should, and Flamingo has the ability. So the team has shot of getting base quite a bit more than their simply BA would reflect. And it's likely that Go Go and Flamingo will bring more HR power to the table than the players the replace, and have a chance at bringing quite a few more. What they're swimming upstream about is that things seemed to "break right" for them last year, and that resulted in "only" a 85-69 record. Not exactly a dominant team. However, when you look closely at their OF last season, things didn't break right for them at all. The Reds could fall flat on their face. But if they're above .500 at the break, still in contention _and_ healthy, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up being the 2004 Braves of TWB this season. Chris probably needs to pull off a good move or two. Not great~!, but simply a good fill or two such as LF which will improve the team. But they could be okay. John

11-02-2004, 05:31 PM	#2674
metsgeek Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 5,450	John, how about an analysis of the Red Sox?? __________________ Commissioner - PBRL - Just finished 2009 109 seasons and still running strong!!!

11-02-2004, 07:21 PM	#2676
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Mets wrote: > John, how about an analysis of > the Red Sox?? You saw what I thought of your two trades over on the TWB boards. John

11-03-2004, 12:00 PM	#2677
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	April 15, 1948 The White Sox jumped out to an early lead in the AL, thanks largely to some great pitching. Detroit is right on their heels, leading the AL in most offensive categories as expected. The Senators got off to a rough start, as did the Red Sox. In the NL, the Phillies opened the season with the best record in the majors at 10-2. They seem to be hitting on all cylinders, and Maurice Misisca looks to be on his way to an MVP-caliber season. 1947 POY Mickey Lonergan is already 3-0 and is 2nd in the NL with a 1.04 ERA. Even reliever Doyle Weaver has had an impact by saving an astounding 6 games in 7 appearances and not allowing a run yet. The Cardinals are in 2nd place, thanks to a .297 team batting average, and the Reds seem ready to hush their critics with a major league best 2.69 team ERA that has them just 2.5 games back. The Cubs are having another rough start, but the Braves seem dead set on another disappointing season with a miserable 2-11 start. In The News On April 5th, the White Sox lost to the Tigers by an 11-7 score at Comiskey Park with Jack Brickhouse at the WGN-TV mike. This was the first telecast in Chicago history. The Sox scored 5 runs in the 7th to tie the game at 6-6, but the Tigers quickly matched them with 5 in the 8th en route to the win. Former Negro League great Chief Harrington became the first black pitcher in the majors but lost his Opening Day start 4-3 at Washington. He was then plastered for 7 runs off 13 hits in 8 innings of what became an 11-9 10th inning loss to the A's in his Yankee Stadium debut. His first victory came in his next start, April 10th at Detroit in which he allowed just 1 earned run over 7.2 innings in a 5-4 victory. Meanwhile, the A's inserted former Negro Leagues catcher Hershel Lee into the cleanup spot in their lineup. He has hit .304 so far this season, hitting safely in all but two of his starts. His first career hit was a single off White Sox pitcher Bob Bussmann on Opening Day, and his first career homerun came on April 10th off Earl Boyd in a 5-3 loss at Chicago. On April 6th, Lee faced Chief Harrington in the first ever black pitcher-hitter duel in major league history. Lee went 1-for-5. Harrington is expected to miss another former Negro Leaguer, Al Jackson, when the Yankees host the Indians on April 19-21 because Chief is scheduled to pitch on the 18th and 22nd. Code: American League Standings Chicago (A) 8 4 .667 - Detroit 8 5 .615 0.5 Cleveland 7 6 .538 1.5 St. Louis (A) 7 6 .538 1.5 Philadelphia (A) 6 6 .500 2.0 Boston (A) 5 7 .417 3.0 Washington 5 8 .385 3.5 New York (A) 4 8 .333 4.0 National League Standings Philadelphia (N) 10 2 .833 - St. Louis (N) 8 4 .667 2.0 Cincinnati 8 5 .615 2.5 Pittsburgh 7 6 .538 3.5 Brooklyn 6 6 .500 4.0 New York (N) 6 7 .462 4.5 Chicago (N) 3 9 .250 7.0 Boston (N) 2 11 .154 8.5 AL AVG .471 Peaches Badeau, PHA .423 Carl Sandoz, DET .412 Emerson Meggs, CLE NL AVG .455 Maurice Misisca, PHI .452 Mike Fellner, BKN .444 James Lewis, PHI AL HOMERUNS 4 Ray Kress, DET 4 Frankie Bowers, SLA 4 Vern Piernatzski, SLA NL HOMERUNS 6 Maurice Misisca, PHI 4 Tom Howard, NYG 4 Dewey Mickelsen, CHN AL RBI 18 Jimmy Ditty, NYA 17 Ray Kress, DET 15 Luther Ormiston, DET NL RBI 19 Maurice Misisca, PHI 18 Artie Albrecht, CIN 15 Tom Howard, NYG AL STEALS 11 Ping Hung, NYA 7 Hershel Cooley, PHA 5 Homer Jewell, CHA NL STEALS 11 Jonny Perly, BKN 5 Jack Zenisek, BSN 4 Flint Rutty, CIN AL ERA 1.17 Bob Finley, WSH 1.65 Raul Velazquez, WSH 2.10 Billy Crowell, CLE NL ERA 1.04 Schoolboy Emberling, CIN 1.04 Mickey Lonergan, PHI 1.15 Ace Shipley, CIN AL WINS 3 Hal Andrew, DET 3 Billy Crowell, CLE 2 Eight Players Tied NL WINS 3 Schoolboy Emberling, CIN 3 John Nolting, PHI 3 Mickey Lonergan, PHI 3 Randall Bray, NYG AL STRIKEOUTS 19 Micky Guyton, WSH 19 Bob Finley, WSH 18 Chief Harrington, NYA NL STRIKEOUTS 23 Scottie Allen, BSN 17 Ace Shipley, CIN 16 John Nolting, PHI AL SAVES 3 Ray Seidel, SLA 2 Five Players Tied NL SAVES 6 Doyle Weaver, PHI 3 Ben Jaroslawski, STL 3 Orval Keefover Jr, PIT

11-03-2004, 12:17 PM	#2678
scprideandms All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N KY, 25 miles from Cincy Posts: 1,314	Not a very auspicious start for the Allen clan Cognac still sucking in A ball (.214) JD debut in AA 1-2 4.63 2 CG Tequila .229 Bourbon, Jr made it to AAA but 0-1 5.87 __________________ Change your playground + change your playfriends + change your playtoys + change your playtime = Change your life. If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on gitting what you've always gotten.

11-03-2004, 12:28 PM	#2679
Theowannabe Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14	O'hara's leading A ball in Sb Sinton in HRs Xavier in doubles. X' is looking better than i thought

11-03-2004, 01:25 PM	#2680
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,251	GO BRAVES! Oh wait. Okay. GO BRAVES! __________________ None Blog it.