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[jg2977]

I got the PM. For Zebulon I'll choose among the 4 worst teams who could use the help. It will probably be about a week, as I will have to finish the 1874 regular season and playoffs.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Please take whatever time you need, then, jg2977. Thank you. CD out.

[jg2977]

I just saw that you did White River Rascals jerseys a long time ago, starting on about pages 39 or 40 of this thread. I will choose two of them and make them their new home and away jerseys.

The Rascals are the current IPA champion (1873) and we could see them in the postseason again this season trying to defend their title. In 1874 they're in first place again, but only lead the division by one game.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

As you wish, but let's both put Zebulon on one of the four worst eligible teams for 1874, among the two worst RU and two worst TU teams that are among the currently-eligible teams for my proposed players, per your choice, when he starts in 1875, jg2977. And maybe let's try to make sure he stays on that team at least long enough to play with his younger brother Jethro on it for at least a year, if we can. K.J. Walton can start on any currently-eligible team that meets the necessary criteria we agree on for his potential entry season. Walton will have no descendants in your IPA, at least, and in any of my dynasties until Gordon's generation, for sure. I haven't decided yet whether he will have any brothers in any of our respective dynasties, but it's not likely, in either your case or mine, at this point in time, I think.

Jedediah Holmes should be the first planned rival of the Freemans to appear in Henry's generation, if memory serves me correctly. Of course, he definitely must not be assigned immediately to any team that any Freeman family member or Freeman-allied family member is on, jg2977. At least when he starts his career, anyway, that is. So that means Denton City is out, plus whatever team Zebulon is on at any time, at the very least, you know. At the very least, if not other teams as well.

Talk more later, as time permits and all, I'm sure. Thank you for your time and all here, as always. That's all for this post here, then, I think, jg2977. CD out.

[jg2977]

Let's just worry about Zebulon first and we'll deal with the other players when the time comes. I can't keep track of everybody that's going to enter my IPA, unless you can reference me to a previous post where we discussed it and they are listed. I assume that you have your list and you'll remind me when I finish each IPA season. I assume you check my IPA dynasty thread frequently, and thus you'll be aware of my progress.

One player at a time is much easier for me to manage, that's basically what I'm saying here.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

And I think that's generally what would happen here, most, if not every time, I propose a player, in terms of potential entry dates for your IPA, jg2977. I don't plan to have multiple players potentially join in a specific season until probably sometime in Gordon's generation, at the earliest, unless their relevant birthdates are close enough to each other to perhaps make that appropriate enough and all, of course. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

As long as I don't lose the list, or get knocked offline, or something that's sufficiently bad happens, for instance, I think I can stay caught up with you easily enough more often than not. Supposing I'm able to find the time and all to do so well enough, of course, that is, jg2977. Just so you know. CD out.

[jg2977]

If you want, you can send me a list of your players and what year they should enter the IPA. Then I can copy and paste the information to a word file. (I have a Mac and use Pages, but it works basically the same.)

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Okay, I'll check my list, and for each, depending on whether we want them to start right after high school or after college, we can mutually decide on their entry years. Zebulon will have finished college in 1874, so the earliest he can come in is 1875. I think I have already posted the proposed dates of birth here in this thread for those I currently expect to enter your IPA during Henry's generation of players.

If they come out of high school in a certain year, and we choose to start them right after that, then they'll start the year after their high school graduation, ideally. If we have them go to college instead, for up to four or five years, then we'll start them the year after they're done with college, ideally. Just so you know, jg2977. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Henry Clarence Freeman: October 26, 1851 [Denton City Redbirds, College (1873 graduate), already in your IPA as of the 1874 season]

Zebulon Richard Morse: April 21, 1852 [Team to be determined later, College (1874 graduate), 1875 Season]

Kyle Jordan Walton: February 27, 1854 [Team to be determined later, College (1876 graduate), 1877 Season]

Jedediah Holmes: July 24, 1857 [Team to be determined later, High School or College (if High School-only graduate, 1875 graduate; if college graduate, 1879 graduate), any time between 1876 and 1880, depending on whether he's out of high school or college]

Jethro Morse: August 20, 1860 [Team to be determined later, HS or College player [If HS-only graduate, 1878 graduate; if college graduate, 1883 graduate), any time between 1879 and 1884, similar to Jedediah Holmes]

Tanner Garber: September 26, 1861 [Team to be determined later, HS or College player [If HS-only graduate, 1879 graduate; if college graduate, 1883 graduate), any time between 1880 and 1885, similar to Jedediah Holmes]

Barrett Parverol: February 3, 1864 [Team to be determined later, HS or College player [If HS-only graduate, 1882 graduate; if college graduate, 1886 graduate), any time between 1883 and 1888, similar to Jedediah Holmes]

Simon Clairborne: March 28, 1864 [Team to be determined later, HS or College player [If HS-only graduate, 1882 graduate; if college graduate, 1886 graduate), any time between 1883 and 1888, similar to Jedediah Holmes]

These are all the prospective players we've likely agreed on so far for Henry's generation in the IPA, just so you know, jg2977. Just so you know. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Henry's an inch shorter and ten pounds lighter than proposed, jg2977. He should be 5'11" and 185 pounds, it seems. Just so you know. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Zebulon should be 6'2" and 200 pounds when he starts, too, just as a reminder. I wonder what the potentially eligible teams for his services will be, among the four possible teams best meeting the needed criteria for them, as well. Thank you. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

As for Gordon, he will spend an extra year in high school, so he will graduate from high school at 19 years old in 1900, and the earliest he would be able to start in your IPA is 1901, at 20 years old, in that case. It is possible, then, that Arthyr, if he actually has a birthdate in March 1882, could start playing in your IPA in 1901 when Gordon does. And hopefully even for the same team, if so, as well.

Duncan would not be able to start prior to 1903 or 1904, with a birthdate in 1884, and if he wasn't in by 1910 or so, he'd probably be too old to play long in your IPA. Elijah would have a birthdate in July 1887, so I'm figuring the earliest he could perhaps play would be in 1906, without college, and around 1910 or so with it.

When we get into the 1880's, the second generation's players will likely start to be born, among the players I'll likely be proposing to you along the way, ones who probably will not be old enough yet to start playing until circa 1900 or so. The third generation's players will likely start being born circa 1905 or so, prior to potential starting dates circa 1925 or so. And so on and so forth, I'm sure, jg2977.

Talk more later, as time permits and all, I'm sure. Lord willing and all, of course, that is, you know. But we've got plenty of time to plan out the future of your IPA and all, as well, most likely, in the near future. And probably a long way before the first generation of IPA players retires yet, most likely, to go here, as well, jg2977. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Here is the current minimum of second-generation players that I might ultimately propose certain player profiles for sometime later on, for inclusion in your IPA, if I haven't already done so anywhere on the forums, in order of potential birthdates:

Gordon Clyde Freeman: February 11, 1881
Arthyr Gyolgi Freeman: March 10, 1882
Jeremiah (AKA Jerry) Holmes: May 19, 1882
Bradley (AKA Brad) Parverol: November 21, 1883
Duncan James Freeman: December 16, 1884
Otis Garber: June 3, 1885
Elijah Moses Freeman: July 15, 1887
Hugh Clairborne: February 25, 1888

Any other players I might propose to you later, besides these ones, if any at all, will mutually have to be decided on later, whether they're allied to the Freemans or to the rivals, or to neither family here, of course. But those are the main, if not only, players I will most likely be proposing for Gordon's generation in your IPA, I think, as far as I can tell right now, jg2977. We'll see how things go for the first generation of players, and then go from there as needed and as appropriate and all, no doubt. CD out.

[jg2977]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Henry's an inch shorter and ten pounds lighter than proposed, jg2977. He should be 5'11" and 185 pounds, it seems. Just so you know. CD out.

I'll adjust it if I remember, but it's not that important in the grand scheme of things. It's merely cosmetic information and it won't affect how he performs on the field. I did make his place of birth St. Louis, MO.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Good, that's what I was wanting and expecting, seeing as he's a version of my father, as I would likely have imagined him perhaps as a player, at least a little bit. My father was born there, in reality, actually, jg2977.

I don't know just yet if I'd actually propose an imagined version of one of my four great-grandfathers and/or an imagined version of my paternal grandfather to you for possible inclusion in your IPA. But if I did actually propose an imagined version of the former person for your IPA, he'd most likely be in Gordon's generation, I think. My paternal grandfather would probably be in Grover's generation, in turn, as well.

Talk more later, as I can and all, I'm sure, jg2977. Thanks for allowing Henry to be in your IPA, for sure, as well. Hope you have a great day, then, of course. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Here's a link you may not have seen before, jg2977. IF you haven't, you may want to check it out later, sometime.

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=330466

Just a suggestion and all here, that's all. Thank you for your time and attention here, as always, of course. CD out.

[jg2977]

It's possible that adding one inch in height and 10 pounds in weight may add to a few extra hits and home runs during his career, who knows? Interesting discussion. At best, the effects on height and weight in this game is minimal, and if there is a stats/ratings increase, it's statistically insignificant. I'll increase Henry's height and weight to what you want, it certainly can't hurt.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Okay, thank you. If I don't designate a certain number for a potential player to use, if possible, then let's let the game give them a number at random. Fair enough?

What four currently-eligible teams in the IPA probably best meet the requested criteria for Zebulon's potential starting team right now, by the way? With two of those teams being in the RU and two in the TU? Please advise. Especially seeing as Zebulon will be primarily a third baseman with some experience at second base to start, probably, if you keep things generally as proposed for him here.

Thank you for your time and attention and all here, then, of course, jg2977. I can't wait to see what happens when the rivals start to appear in opposition to the Freemans and their allies, at least, too. I'm not decided yet on whether the rivals and/or Jethro will go through college before we add them, but if they don't, then let's see about adding them to your IPA, at least, within five years or so of their likely college graduations, if that's all right with you. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

I don't think Henry will actually be able to play at least long enough to play with Gordon, for Henry will be nearly 30 years old when Gordon is ultimately born. Henry would have to play to nearly 50 for him to perhaps have a chance to play with Gordon and/or Arthyr, then, for sure. That's highly doubtful at this point, as far as I can currently tell here well enough, of course, anyway.

However, if he could actually be a coach on or actually manage the team that his four sons each start their respective playing careers on, when they each start playing, that would be rather great here, I'm quite sure. Especially if they all are on the same team together when Elijah finally debuts and all, that is.

Talk more later, as time permits and all, I'm sure. Thank you for your time and all here, then, as always, of course, jg2977. I'll try to get those other graphics for you as soon as possible. I'm leaning towards having Jedediah Holmes only starting his potential playing career after finishing college, but if I change my mind, and ultimately decide to have him potentially start in 1876, I'll certainly let you know, for sure. CD out.