Questions about FaceGen - Page 13

battists · 02-12-2007, 01:22 PM

Raidergoo was serious. Player faces change according to age and BMI. So, if you edit a player to make them 20 yrs older and 30 pounds heavier, their face will change accordingly.

There is no "cartoon" slider, so you're pretty much stuck there.

Players will stop aging (from a face perspective) when they retired.

1998 Yankees · 02-12-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

Players will stop aging (from a face perspective) when they retired.

Good. I prefer this to some of the macabre suggestions of others concerning portrayal of old age and death.

I will look at this as "the last photo on file" at league headquarters.

Status: Retired. Current whereabouts unknown.

ctorg · 02-12-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

Yes, and if they go into coaching, 20 years later they look 57.

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Originally Posted by battists

Players will stop aging (from a face perspective) when they retired.

So do they age as coaches or not?

Icy · 02-12-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kevchod

Anyhow, a question. Will we have control over certain parameters FaceGen uses? For example, the 'caricature' slider in the FaceGen program. Could we have a league full of cartoon-y looking yokels, or are these sliders hardcoded in somehow?

I don't think so, at least the parameters are hardcoded by now, the only facegen option that you have (apart from the templates for jerseys, caps, logos etc) is the level of zoom, so you can choose a close up pic with just the face and cap or two other views with less zoom where you can see a bigger part of the jersey.

SSG Troyer · 02-12-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

Andreas Raht has taken his game to a new level.

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Originally Posted by LeiterFanatic

Indeed... Well done

You don't understand. Today, he took it to a whole new level. The beta boards are abuzz ...

cephasjames · 02-12-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Good. I prefer this to some of the macabre suggestions of others concerning portrayal of old age and death.

I will look at this as "the last photo on file" at league headquarters.

Status: Retired. Current whereabouts unknown.

But... how cool would it be to watch a guy die and then start to decay...

cephasjames · 02-12-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SSG Troyer

You don't understand. Today, he took it to a whole new level. The beta boards are abuzz ...

Pix. plz.

Can you share any of it yet?

Exodor · 02-12-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

Yes, and if they go into coaching, 20 years later they look 57.

Did we ever get an answer to the question of how "very old" players will look?

If I run a sim for 100 years what will the pictures of the first-year players look like?

I don't want all my Hall of Famers to look like Strom Thurmond.

EDIT - already answered. Thanks!

ctorg · 02-12-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

Raidergoo was serious. Player faces change according to age and BMI. So, if you edit a player to make them 20 yrs older and 30 pounds heavier, their face will change accordingly.

There is no "cartoon" slider, so you're pretty much stuck there.

Players will stop aging (from a face perspective) when they retired.

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

But... how cool would it be to watch a guy die and then start to decay...

Then we could just sit there watching the worm simulator create worms that eat the flesh, and we can complain that particular worms don't eat at the particular rate being shown and cry out for better realism.

1998 Yankees · 02-12-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SSG Troyer

You don't understand. Today, he took it to a whole new level. The beta boards are abuzz ...

I assume this ^ is related to this: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...6&postcount=67

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But... how cool would it be to watch a guy die and then start to decay...

Ugh. Spare me. Where's the fountain of youth option, then?

1998 Yankees · 02-12-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

Then we could just sit there watching the worm simulator create worms that eat the flesh, and we can complain that particular worms don't eat at the particular rate being shown and cry out for better realism.

Anybody else sitting at their desk, eating lunch and reading the forums? Excuse me, I gotta take a break . . .

battists · 02-12-2007, 01:40 PM

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So do they age as coaches or not?

Yes. Sorry if that was unclear.

I believe there's some discussion of retired players appearing, esp in the Hall of Fame, as they did in their prime, or some such, instead of pictures of decrepit old Ted Williams. Not sure what happened with that, though.

Gastric ReFlux · 02-12-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

Yes. Sorry if that was unclear.

I believe there's some discussion of retired players appearing, esp in the Hall of Fame, as they did in their prime, or some such, instead of pictures of decrepit old Ted Williams. Not sure what happened with that, though.

Can we get that checked upon? I know it's probably unreasonable to ask that snapshots getting taken of all players, but if the game can age photos, can that process be reversed? So then maybe players who make the Hall of Fame can have an appropriately aged image of them in the early 30's.

kevchod · 02-12-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Icy

I don't think so, at least the parameters are hardcoded by now, the only facegen option that you have (apart from the templates for jerseys, caps, logos etc) is the level of zoom, so you can choose a close up pic with just the face and cap or two other views with less zoom where you can see a bigger part of the jersey.

Dang. Too bad there couldn't at least be a .cfg file of sorts that allowed you to modify min/max values for each parameter (and then the game choosing random values in between min/max during generations).

As far as guys dying...hehe...it would be kinda cool that when someone died, their profile picture would change to a B&W pic of him in his prime.

ifspuds · 02-12-2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

Raidergoo was serious. Player faces change according to age and BMI. So, if you edit a player to make them 20 yrs older and 30 pounds heavier, their face will change accordingly.

I am simply floored by this. I swore I wouldn't get caught up in the hype, but it's becoming harder and harder all the time.

cephasjames · 02-12-2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

Yes. Sorry if that was unclear.

I believe there's some discussion of retired players appearing, esp in the Hall of Fame, as they did in their prime, or some such, instead of pictures of decrepit old Ted Williams. Not sure what happened with that, though.

If death was added (sans death pictures) we could have aging until death. Then when someone dies the last picture of them would be the one that remained. Also, if we had death (mainly for Hall of Famers) we could have news stories celebrating their life and career.

ctorg · 02-12-2007, 01:48 PM

I think if death were added, it would have to be optional to address the sensitivities of some people to the topic. Also, there would be issues of injury-death, like getting killed by a beanball to the head or something.

zekester91 · 02-12-2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

Pix. plz.

Can you share any of it yet?

or just a link to the bata boards, that way we could all just read the buzz instead of being teased

cephasjames · 02-12-2007, 02:02 PM

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Raidergoo · 02-12-2007, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

Pix. plz.

Can you share any of it yet?

It's been surpressed, for the safety of board members.

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02-12-2007, 01:22 PM	#241
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	Raidergoo was serious. Player faces change according to age and BMI. So, if you edit a player to make them 20 yrs older and 30 pounds heavier, their face will change accordingly. There is no "cartoon" slider, so you're pretty much stuck there. Players will stop aging (from a face perspective) when they retired.