Time Warp Baseball - Page 122

metsgeek · 09-30-2004, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scprideandms

woo hoo Gold Glove for Tequila!!!

1 of 4 for the Red Sox, a bright spot in a disappointing season

Matt from TN · 09-30-2004, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by metsgeek

1 of 4 for the Red Sox, a bright spot in a disappointing season

Not to mention the last place Yanks swept the OF GG's

mauboy · 09-30-2004, 08:58 PM

I'm a little behind.. But Ervin got both RBI's in game 6 as the Phillies won the World Series! Attaboy! Mr. Clutch. He was having a horrid series going into the would-be final game of the series. I'm so proud of him, once again. I think that's number four for Ervin. Perhaps before he retires he can use more than one hand for his rings!

Matt from TN · 10-01-2004, 02:30 PM

On October 23, 1945, just weeks after the end of the World Series, the Indians organization announced they had signed young outfielder Al Jackson to a contract. Jackson is the first black player to ever sign with a major league team.

Jackson, 26, played the last two seasons with the Baltimore Elite Giants of the Negro Leagues. He is expected to begin his new career in AAA, but there is little doubt that he will soon break into the majors.

Jackson is a gifted athlete who lettered in football, basketball, track and field and even tennis while attending college at UCLA. His brother Lou finished second to Jesse Owens in the long-jump at the 1936 Olympics, and Al would likely have participated in the 1940 Olympics had they not been canceled due to World War II.

It looks like the Indians have an amazing athlete in Jackson, but the question now becomes whether or not he can survive in the major leagues and if the country is ready for him to. If he does succeed, it is almost certain that other Negro League players will attempt to follow him to the major leagues.

DTF955 · 10-01-2004, 06:19 PM

Interesting; and I guess it makes sense, in this history it could well have been Cleveland, as they had the first in the AL. Nice to see a little change here, and yet this is a city with lots of ethnic diversity like Brooklyn was, so he should do well there.

rogmax11 · 10-01-2004, 07:01 PM

Interesting choice of names for the Jackie Robinson player; years ago I did an epic replay of MLB using APBA for Windows and their Electronic Encyclopedia, changing names and opting for yearly drafts to cover up the historical bias as best I could. I found I just couldnt erase JR and live with myself, so I changed his name to Robert Jackson. Thanks for the old memories.

Matt from TN · 10-01-2004, 07:06 PM

DTF - the 1st black player in AL history, Larry Doby, did play with the Indians, so it seems like fate I suppose. Plus with wacky but tolerant Bill Veeck heading the team, it's fitting.

rogmax - The name wasn't initially intended to mirror Jackie's name (i.e. Jackson), but I picked a last name at random & that's what it was. Again, fate I suppose. A few more black players will debut in the majors after the AS break, as in RL. Can't wait to see who they end up with.

And fate has often seemed to shine on the TWB, most memorably the fact that the White Sox became dominant in the late 1910's and lost the 1919 WS despite being heavily favored. In RL, they lost to the Reds that year and in TWB the next season they won the WS (as in RL) and it was against the Reds.

Big Six · 10-01-2004, 10:00 PM

I'm a little behind too...but I see Em Pelto got himself a World Series ring! And, he had a good Series, too...batting almost .400, with 4 RBI. What a way to top off a fine season!

THE GUT · 10-03-2004, 11:50 AM

My first "ancestor" (actually my brother-in-law's grandfather) makes his debut this year. Go El Toro!

jdw · 10-04-2004, 03:08 AM

Matt wrote:

> And fate has often seemed to shine on the
> TWB, most memorably the fact that the White
> Sox became dominant in the late 1910's and
> lost the 1919 WS despite being heavily
> favored. In RL, they lost to the Reds that year
> and in TWB the next season they won the WS
> (as in RL) and it was against the Reds.

No doubt.

The Yanks Dynasty in the 30s hit at a good time, and Jethro Lee with the Senators had a career similar to Walter Johnson on the sense that they didn't get into the Series until Dodge was 34 (in 1937) and he had a terrific series as they won it all. They got back again a second time (1941) as did Johnson's team, but unlike the Big Train, Dodge and the Senators won again.

Dodge of course went on to win 400 games and set the TWB record for career strikeouts.

John

canadiancreed · 10-04-2004, 03:13 AM

Persoanlyl in the AL, the Sens are the ones that i'm persoanlly rooting for (go Eric, give him a starting slot

)

Matt from TN · 10-04-2004, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdw

The Yanks Dynasty in the 30s hit at a good time, and Jethro Lee with the Senators had a career similar to Walter Johnson on the sense that they didn't get into the Series until Dodge was 34 (in 1937) and he had a terrific series as they won it all. They got back again a second time (1941) as did Johnson's team, but unlike the Big Train, Dodge and the Senators won again.

Dodge of course went on to win 400 games and set the TWB record for career strikeouts.

Man, I never thought to parallel Johnson and Lee...wow. And Johnson is my favorite player from that era.

canadiancreed · 10-04-2004, 07:10 PM

I jsut read the news about the WHite Sox GM. That sucks ass

EDIT: Oops sorry bout that (in reference to the succeeding post)

Matt from TN · 10-04-2004, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadiancreed

I jsut read the news about the WHite Sox GM.

Not sure what you mean, but if you mean the GM had to drop out, we've already got a new one.

Also, please keep these kind of posts on the TWB forums & out of this thread, because this thread is incredibly long as it is & we'd prefer to keep it down to just stuff related directly to the thread itself: league results, players, etc.

Matt from TN · 10-05-2004, 11:30 AM

Franchise Histories

The Browns set a new franchise record for wins last season, surpassing a mark set back in 1904. They also ended the 3rd longest pennant draught. The Pirates and Reds still have the longest draughts, with the Cardinals now 3rd.

BLUE - Won World Series
GREEN - Won Pennant but No WS Played
BLACK - Won Pennant

Boston Red Sox - 4 Pennants, 3-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1945), Last WS Title (1945)
Most Wins 101 (1945), Most Losses 93 (1936)
Winning Seasons 11, Losing Seasons 31, .500 Seasons 4
Longest Winning Streak: 3 Seasons (1943-45)
Longest Losing Streak: 12 Seasons (1906-17)
1900-10: 2-8
1911-20: 2-7-1 - 1918
1921-30: 2-5-3
1931-40: 2-8
1941-50: 3-3 - 1943, 1944, 1945
Last 10 Seasons 4-6
Last 5 Seasons 3-2

Chicago White Sox - 6 Pennants, 1-5 in WS, Last Pennant (1938), Last WS Title (1920)
Most Wins 102 (1920), Most Losses 91 (1910)
Winning Seasons 23, Losing Seasons 23
Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1913-21)
Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1904-12)
1900-10: 1-9 - 1903
1911-20: 8-2 - 1917, 1919, 1920
1921-30: 6-4 - 1930
1931-40: 5-5 - 1938
1941-50: 3-3
Last 10 Seasons 5-5
Last 5 Seasons 2-3

Cleveland Indians - 6 Pennants, 3-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1942), Last WS Title (1942)
Most Wins 107 (1910), Most Losses 101 (1945)
Winning Seasons 22, Losing Seasons 22, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 13 Seasons (1906-18)
Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1927-32)
1900-10: 6-4 - 1907, 1910
1911-20: 9-1 - 1914, 1915, 1916
1921-30: 2-8
1931-40: 3-5-2
1941-50: 2-4 - 1942
Last 10 Seasons 2-7-1
Last 5 Seasons 2-3

Detroit Tigers - 1 Pennant, 1-0 in WS, Last Pennant (1928), Last WS Win (1928)
Most Wins 93 (1928), Most Losses 96 (1941)
Winning Seasons 18, Losing Seasons 28
Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1901-05)
Longest Losing Streak: 13 Seasons (1932-1944)
1900-10: 5-5
1911-20: 3-7
1921-30: 6-4 - 1928
1931-40: 1-9
1941-50: 2-4
Last 10 Seasons 2-8
Last 5 Seasons 2-3

New York Yankees - 14 Pennants, 8-6 in WS, Last Pennant (1940), Last WS Win (1940)
Most Wins 103 (1923), Most Losses 95 (1946)
Winning Seasons 26, Losing Seasons 18, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1930-1941)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1915-21)
1900-10: 7-3 - 1905, 1908, 1909
1911-20: 3-7 - 1911, 1912
1921-30: 5-4-1 - 1923, 1927
1931-40: 10-0 - 1931, 1933, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1939, 1940
1941-50: 1-4-1
Last 10 Seasons 5-4-1
Last 5 Seasons 0-4-1

Philadelphia Athletics - 5 Pennants, 1-4 in WS, Last Pennant (1932), Last WS Title (1906)
Most Wins 98 (1929), Most Losses 97 (1917)
Winning Seasons 23, Losing Seasons 22, .500 Seasons 1
Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1925-33)
Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1912-21)
1900-10: 8-2 - 1906
1911-20: 1-9
1921-30: 8-2 - 1925, 1926, 1929
1931-40: 4-5-1 - 1932
1941-50: 2-4
Last 10 Seasons 2-7-1
Last 5 Seasons 2-3

St. Louis Browns - 5 Pennants, 1-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1946), Last WS Title (1922)
Most Wins 93 (1946), Most Losses 98 (1930)
Winning Seasons 19, Losing Seasons 25, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 3 Seasons (1942-1944)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1910-16)
1900-10: 5-5 - 1901, 1902, 1904
1911-20: 2-7-1
1921-30: 4-6 - 1922
1931-40: 4-5-1
1941-50: 4-2 - 1946
Last 10 Seasons 6-4
Last 5 Seasons 4-1

Washington Senators - 5 Pennants, 4-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1941), Last WS Title (1941)
Most Wins 93 (1941), Most Losses 88 (1907)
Winning Seasons 25 Losing Seasons 19, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 11 Seasons (1936-Present)
Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1927-32)
1900-10: 3-6-1
1911-20: 4-6 - 1913
1921-30: 5-5 - 1921, 1924
1931-40: 7-2-1 - 1937
1941-50: 6-0 - 1941
Last 10 Seasons 10-0
Last 5 Seasons 5-0

Boston Braves - 4 Pennants, 2-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1931), Last WS Title (1931)
Most Wins 105 (1928), Most Losses 102 (1915)
Winning Seasons 17, Losing Seasons 28, .500 Seasons 1
Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1930-1938)
Longest Losing Streak: 14 Seasons (1914-27)
1900-10: 6-4 - 1904, 1910
1911-20: 1-9
1921-30: 2-8 - 1928
1931-40: 8-1-1 - 1931
1941-50: 0-6
Last 10 Seasons 2-7-1
Last 5 Seasons 0-5

Brooklyn Dodgers - 7 Pennants, 4-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1943), Last WS Title (1943)
Most Wins 94 (1943), Most Losses 94 (1927)
Winning Seasons 29, Losing Seasons 15, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 13 Seasons (1934-Present)
Longest Losing Streak: 4 Seasons (1903-06)
1900-10: 3-7
1911-20: 7-2-1 - 1919
1921-30: 7-3 - 1926
1931-40: 7-2-1 - 1934, 1935, 1939, 1940
1941-50: 6-0 - 1943
Last 10 Seasons 10-0
Last 5 Seasons 5-0

Chicago Cubs - 6 Pennants, 3-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1938), Last WS Title (1938)
Most Wins 101 (1938), Most Losses 97 (1925)
Winning Seasons 28, Losing Seasons 18
Longest Winning Streak: 14 Seasons (1901-14)
Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1922-27)
1900-10: 10-0 - 1905
1911-20: 7-3 - 1913, 1917
1921-30: 3-7
1931-40: 7-3 - 1936, 1937, 1938
1941-50: 1-5
Last 10 Seasons 4-6
Last 5 Seasons 1-4

Cincinnati Reds - 1 Pennant, 0-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1920)
Most Wins 92 (1927), Most Losses 95 (1906)
Winning Seasons 24, Losing Seasons 22
Longest Winning Streak: 11 Seasons (1913-23)
Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1933-42)
1900-10: 5-5
1911-20: 9-1 - 1920
1921-30: 4-6
1931-40: 2-8
1941-50: 4-2
Last 10 Seasons 4-6
Last 5 Seasons 4-1

New York Giants - 7 Pennants, 2-5 in WS, Last Pennant (1944), Last WS Title (1921)
Most Wins 95 (1944), Most Losses 97 (1929)
Winning Seasons 20, Losing Seasons 22, .500 Seasons 4
Longest Winning Streak: 6 Seasons (1918-23)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1908-14)
1900-10: 1-8-1 - 1907
1911-20: 5-5 - 1918
1921-30: 5-5 - 1921, 1922
1931-40: 5-3-2
1941-50: 4-1-1 - 1941, 1942, 1944
Last 10 Seasons 5-3-2
Last 5 Seasons 3-1-1

Philadelphia Phillies - 11 Pennants, 7-2 in WS, Last Pennant (1946), Last WS Title (1946)
Most Wins 100 (1927), Most Losses 98 (1938)
Winning Seasons 22, Losing Seasons 21, .500 Seasons 3
Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1924-1935)
Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1915-23)
1900-10: 7-2-1 - 1901, 1902, 1903
1911-20: 1-9
1921-30: 7-3 - 1925, 1927, 1929, 1930
1931-40: 5-4-1 - 1932, 1933
1941-50: 2-3-1 - 1945, 1946
Last 10 Seasons 2-6-2
Last 5 Seasons 2-2-1

Pittsburgh Pirates - 4 Pennants, 1-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1912), Last WS Win (1909)
Most Wins 92 (1908), Most Losses 103 (1928)
Winning Seasons 13, Losing Seasons 32, .500 Seasons 1
Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1908-12)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1913-19, 1931-1937)
1900-10: 4-6 - 1908, 1909
1911-20: 2-8 - 1911, 1912
1921-30: 2-7-1
1931-40: 2-8
1941-50: 2-4
Last 10 Seasons 4-6
Last 5 Seasons 2-3

St. Louis Cardinals - 6 Pennants, 2-4 in WS, Last Pennant (1924), Last WS Win (1923)
Most Wins 103 (1915), Most Losses 99 (1936)
Winning Seasons 22, Losing Seasons 21, .500 Seasons 3
Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1914-18, 1921-25)
Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1930-39)
1900-10: 3-6-1 - 1906
1911-20: 6-2-2 - 1914, 1915, 1916
1921-30: 8-2 - 1923, 1924
1931-40: 1-9
1941-50: 4-2
Last 10 Seasons 5-5
Last 5 Seasons 3-2

Last Pennant:

1912 - PIT
1920 - CIN
1924 - STL
1928 - DET
1931 - BSN
1932 - PHA
1938 - CHA, CHN
1940 - NYA
1941 - WSH
1942 - CLE
1943 - BKN
1944 - NYG
1945 - BOS
1946 - SLA, PHI

Last World Series Championship:

NONE - CIN
1906 - PHA
1909 - PIT
1920 - CHA
1921 - NYG
1922 - SLA
1923 - STL
1928 - DET
1931 - BSN
1938 - CHN
1940 - NYA
1941 - WSH
1942 - CLE
1943 - BKN
1945 - BOS
1946 - PHI

jdw · 10-05-2004, 12:03 PM

Matt wrote:

> Not sure what you mean, but if you mean
> the GM had to drop out, we've already
> got a new one.

If it was on the original Sox GM (me), it was all for the better. I'll GM at some point when time frees up, and as you can see still pop up semi-regularly in these threads.

John

Matt from TN · 10-05-2004, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdw

If it was on the original Sox GM (me), it was all for the better. I'll GM at some point when time frees up, and as you can see still pop up semi-regularly in these threads.

No it wasn't. It was your replacement. There's already another Sox owner, bigjas, since before the offseason started, so no worries.

jdw · 10-05-2004, 12:13 PM

Matt wrote:

> Man, I never thought to parallel Johnson
> and Lee...wow. And Johnson is my favorite
> player from that era.

I never thought of it until Dodge and the Senators won that first World Series so deep into his career. Then it was like, "Hey... wait a minute..."

I could swear you made a comment that triggered it as well, Matt. Something along the lines of the long time great finally getting the ring. I thought the Johnson tie-in was so obvious at that time that it didn't even need to be mentioned. Now that he's retired and a newbie was reading the thread, I wanted to share the Dodge Love.

Hmmm... newbies... sharing the love...

Um, when reading about those Black Sox, one needs to keep in mind that Murph is the Best Ever, Jed never took any money and played great in the three Series, Flaky isn't a commie and is the greatest choked in Series history, Ed "The Fixer" Whelan threw more games than Hedi Fleise had... er... "customers", and there is some question whether a certain third baseman took money or didn't take money...

That about covers in.

John

mauboy · 10-05-2004, 01:33 PM

I like how you gave Dave and Dan Mau the same picture. It would have been funny if you reversed the picture around

tward13 · 10-05-2004, 03:21 PM

Confused the hell out of me. I got Dan (I think) in the draft, then saw Dave on another roster.

10-01-2004, 02:30 PM	#2424
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	Indians Announce Signing of First Black Player On October 23, 1945, just weeks after the end of the World Series, the Indians organization announced they had signed young outfielder Al Jackson to a contract. Jackson is the first black player to ever sign with a major league team. Jackson, 26, played the last two seasons with the Baltimore Elite Giants of the Negro Leagues. He is expected to begin his new career in AAA, but there is little doubt that he will soon break into the majors. Jackson is a gifted athlete who lettered in football, basketball, track and field and even tennis while attending college at UCLA. His brother Lou finished second to Jesse Owens in the long-jump at the 1936 Olympics, and Al would likely have participated in the 1940 Olympics had they not been canceled due to World War II. It looks like the Indians have an amazing athlete in Jackson, but the question now becomes whether or not he can survive in the major leagues and if the country is ready for him to. If he does succeed, it is almost certain that other Negro League players will attempt to follow him to the major leagues. __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise

10-01-2004, 07:06 PM	#2427
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	DTF - the 1st black player in AL history, Larry Doby, did play with the Indians, so it seems like fate I suppose. Plus with wacky but tolerant Bill Veeck heading the team, it's fitting. rogmax - The name wasn't initially intended to mirror Jackie's name (i.e. Jackson), but I picked a last name at random & that's what it was. Again, fate I suppose. A few more black players will debut in the majors after the AS break, as in RL. Can't wait to see who they end up with. And fate has often seemed to shine on the TWB, most memorably the fact that the White Sox became dominant in the late 1910's and lost the 1919 WS despite being heavily favored. In RL, they lost to the Reds that year and in TWB the next season they won the WS (as in RL) and it was against the Reds. __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise

10-01-2004, 10:00 PM	#2428
Big Six Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,145	I'm a little behind too...but I see Em Pelto got himself a World Series ring! And, he had a good Series, too...batting almost .400, with 4 RBI. What a way to top off a fine season! __________________ My dynasties: The Base Ball Life of Patrick O'Farrell: 2014 inductee, OOTP Dynasty Hall of Fame Kenilworth: A Town and its Team: fun with a fictional league

10-04-2004, 07:10 PM	#2433
canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,660	I jsut read the news about the WHite Sox GM. That sucks ass EDIT: Oops sorry bout that (in reference to the succeeding post) Last edited by canadiancreed; 10-04-2004 at 07:40 PM. Reason: My bad

09-30-2004, 08:58 PM	#2423
mauboy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,906	I'm a little behind.. But Ervin got both RBI's in game 6 as the Phillies won the World Series! Attaboy! Mr. Clutch. He was having a horrid series going into the would-be final game of the series. I'm so proud of him, once again. I think that's number four for Ervin. Perhaps before he retires he can use more than one hand for his rings!

10-01-2004, 06:19 PM	#2425
DTF955 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 80	Interesting; and I guess it makes sense, in this history it could well have been Cleveland, as they had the first in the AL. Nice to see a little change here, and yet this is a city with lots of ethnic diversity like Brooklyn was, so he should do well there.

10-01-2004, 07:01 PM	#2426
rogmax11 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,320	Interesting choice of names for the Jackie Robinson player; years ago I did an epic replay of MLB using APBA for Windows and their Electronic Encyclopedia, changing names and opting for yearly drafts to cover up the historical bias as best I could. I found I just couldnt erase JR and live with myself, so I changed his name to Robert Jackson. Thanks for the old memories.

10-03-2004, 11:50 AM	#2429
THE GUT Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 120	My first "ancestor" (actually my brother-in-law's grandfather) makes his debut this year. Go El Toro!

10-04-2004, 03:08 AM	#2430
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Matt wrote: > And fate has often seemed to shine on the > TWB, most memorably the fact that the White > Sox became dominant in the late 1910's and > lost the 1919 WS despite being heavily > favored. In RL, they lost to the Reds that year > and in TWB the next season they won the WS > (as in RL) and it was against the Reds. No doubt. The Yanks Dynasty in the 30s hit at a good time, and Jethro Lee with the Senators had a career similar to Walter Johnson on the sense that they didn't get into the Series until Dodge was 34 (in 1937) and he had a terrific series as they won it all. They got back again a second time (1941) as did Johnson's team, but unlike the Big Train, Dodge and the Senators won again. Dodge of course went on to win 400 games and set the TWB record for career strikeouts. John

10-04-2004, 03:13 AM	#2431
canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,660	Persoanlyl in the AL, the Sens are the ones that i'm persoanlly rooting for (go Eric, give him a starting slot )

10-05-2004, 11:30 AM	#2435
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	Franchise Histories The Browns set a new franchise record for wins last season, surpassing a mark set back in 1904. They also ended the 3rd longest pennant draught. The Pirates and Reds still have the longest draughts, with the Cardinals now 3rd. BLUE - Won World Series GREEN - Won Pennant but No WS Played BLACK - Won Pennant Boston Red Sox - 4 Pennants, 3-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1945), Last WS Title (1945) Most Wins 101 (1945), Most Losses 93 (1936) Winning Seasons 11, Losing Seasons 31, .500 Seasons 4 Longest Winning Streak: 3 Seasons (1943-45) Longest Losing Streak: 12 Seasons (1906-17) 1900-10: 2-8 1911-20: 2-7-1 - 1918 1921-30: 2-5-3 1931-40: 2-8 1941-50: 3-3 - 1943, 1944, 1945 Last 10 Seasons 4-6 Last 5 Seasons 3-2 Chicago White Sox - 6 Pennants, 1-5 in WS, Last Pennant (1938), Last WS Title (1920) Most Wins 102 (1920), Most Losses 91 (1910) Winning Seasons 23, Losing Seasons 23 Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1913-21) Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1904-12) 1900-10: 1-9 - 1903 1911-20: 8-2 - 1917, 1919, 1920 1921-30: 6-4 - 1930 1931-40: 5-5 - 1938 1941-50: 3-3 Last 10 Seasons 5-5 Last 5 Seasons 2-3 Cleveland Indians - 6 Pennants, 3-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1942), Last WS Title (1942) Most Wins 107 (1910), Most Losses 101 (1945) Winning Seasons 22, Losing Seasons 22, .500 Seasons 2 Longest Winning Streak: 13 Seasons (1906-18) Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1927-32) 1900-10: 6-4 - 1907, 1910 1911-20: 9-1 - 1914, 1915, 1916 1921-30: 2-8 1931-40: 3-5-2 1941-50: 2-4 - 1942 Last 10 Seasons 2-7-1 Last 5 Seasons 2-3 Detroit Tigers - 1 Pennant, 1-0 in WS, Last Pennant (1928), Last WS Win (1928) Most Wins 93 (1928), Most Losses 96 (1941) Winning Seasons 18, Losing Seasons 28 Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1901-05) Longest Losing Streak: 13 Seasons (1932-1944) 1900-10: 5-5 1911-20: 3-7 1921-30: 6-4 - 1928 1931-40: 1-9 1941-50: 2-4 Last 10 Seasons 2-8 Last 5 Seasons 2-3 New York Yankees - 14 Pennants, 8-6 in WS, Last Pennant (1940), Last WS Win (1940) Most Wins 103 (1923), Most Losses 95 (1946) Winning Seasons 26, Losing Seasons 18, .500 Seasons 2 Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1930-1941) Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1915-21) 1900-10: 7-3 - 1905, 1908, 1909 1911-20: 3-7 - 1911, 1912 1921-30: 5-4-1 - 1923, 1927 1931-40: 10-0 - 1931, 1933, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1939, 1940 1941-50: 1-4-1 Last 10 Seasons 5-4-1 Last 5 Seasons 0-4-1 Philadelphia Athletics - 5 Pennants, 1-4 in WS, Last Pennant (1932), Last WS Title (1906) Most Wins 98 (1929), Most Losses 97 (1917) Winning Seasons 23, Losing Seasons 22, .500 Seasons 1 Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1925-33) Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1912-21) 1900-10: 8-2 - 1906 1911-20: 1-9 1921-30: 8-2 - 1925, 1926, 1929 1931-40: 4-5-1 - 1932 1941-50: 2-4 Last 10 Seasons 2-7-1 Last 5 Seasons 2-3 St. Louis Browns - 5 Pennants, 1-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1946), Last WS Title (1922) Most Wins 93 (1946), Most Losses 98 (1930) Winning Seasons 19, Losing Seasons 25, .500 Seasons 2 Longest Winning Streak: 3 Seasons (1942-1944) Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1910-16) 1900-10: 5-5 - 1901, 1902, 1904 1911-20: 2-7-1 1921-30: 4-6 - 1922 1931-40: 4-5-1 1941-50: 4-2 - 1946 Last 10 Seasons 6-4 Last 5 Seasons 4-1 Washington Senators - 5 Pennants, 4-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1941), Last WS Title (1941) Most Wins 93 (1941), Most Losses 88 (1907) Winning Seasons 25 Losing Seasons 19, .500 Seasons 2 Longest Winning Streak: 11 Seasons (1936-Present) Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1927-32) 1900-10: 3-6-1 1911-20: 4-6 - 1913 1921-30: 5-5 - 1921, 1924 1931-40: 7-2-1 - 1937 1941-50: 6-0 - 1941 Last 10 Seasons 10-0 Last 5 Seasons 5-0 Boston Braves - 4 Pennants, 2-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1931), Last WS Title (1931) Most Wins 105 (1928), Most Losses 102 (1915) Winning Seasons 17, Losing Seasons 28, .500 Seasons 1 Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1930-1938) Longest Losing Streak: 14 Seasons (1914-27) 1900-10: 6-4 - 1904, 1910 1911-20: 1-9 1921-30: 2-8 - 1928 1931-40: 8-1-1 - 1931 1941-50: 0-6 Last 10 Seasons 2-7-1 Last 5 Seasons 0-5 Brooklyn Dodgers - 7 Pennants, 4-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1943), Last WS Title (1943) Most Wins 94 (1943), Most Losses 94 (1927) Winning Seasons 29, Losing Seasons 15, .500 Seasons 2 Longest Winning Streak: 13 Seasons (1934-Present) Longest Losing Streak: 4 Seasons (1903-06) 1900-10: 3-7 1911-20: 7-2-1 - 1919 1921-30: 7-3 - 1926 1931-40: 7-2-1 - 1934, 1935, 1939, 1940 1941-50: 6-0 - 1943 Last 10 Seasons 10-0 Last 5 Seasons 5-0 Chicago Cubs - 6 Pennants, 3-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1938), Last WS Title (1938) Most Wins 101 (1938), Most Losses 97 (1925) Winning Seasons 28, Losing Seasons 18 Longest Winning Streak: 14 Seasons (1901-14) Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1922-27) 1900-10: 10-0 - 1905 1911-20: 7-3 - 1913, 1917 1921-30: 3-7 1931-40: 7-3 - 1936, 1937, 1938 1941-50: 1-5 Last 10 Seasons 4-6 Last 5 Seasons 1-4 Cincinnati Reds - 1 Pennant, 0-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1920) Most Wins 92 (1927), Most Losses 95 (1906) Winning Seasons 24, Losing Seasons 22 Longest Winning Streak: 11 Seasons (1913-23) Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1933-42) 1900-10: 5-5 1911-20: 9-1 - 1920 1921-30: 4-6 1931-40: 2-8 1941-50: 4-2 Last 10 Seasons 4-6 Last 5 Seasons 4-1 New York Giants - 7 Pennants, 2-5 in WS, Last Pennant (1944), Last WS Title (1921) Most Wins 95 (1944), Most Losses 97 (1929) Winning Seasons 20, Losing Seasons 22, .500 Seasons 4 Longest Winning Streak: 6 Seasons (1918-23) Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1908-14) 1900-10: 1-8-1 - 1907 1911-20: 5-5 - 1918 1921-30: 5-5 - 1921, 1922 1931-40: 5-3-2 1941-50: 4-1-1 - 1941, 1942, 1944 Last 10 Seasons 5-3-2 Last 5 Seasons 3-1-1 Philadelphia Phillies - 11 Pennants, 7-2 in WS, Last Pennant (1946), Last WS Title (1946) Most Wins 100 (1927), Most Losses 98 (1938) Winning Seasons 22, Losing Seasons 21, .500 Seasons 3 Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1924-1935) Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1915-23) 1900-10: 7-2-1 - 1901, 1902, 1903 1911-20: 1-9 1921-30: 7-3 - 1925, 1927, 1929, 1930 1931-40: 5-4-1 - 1932, 1933 1941-50: 2-3-1 - 1945, 1946 Last 10 Seasons 2-6-2 Last 5 Seasons 2-2-1 Pittsburgh Pirates - 4 Pennants, 1-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1912), Last WS Win (1909) Most Wins 92 (1908), Most Losses 103 (1928) Winning Seasons 13, Losing Seasons 32, .500 Seasons 1 Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1908-12) Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1913-19, 1931-1937) 1900-10: 4-6 - 1908, 1909 1911-20: 2-8 - 1911, 1912 1921-30: 2-7-1 1931-40: 2-8 1941-50: 2-4 Last 10 Seasons 4-6 Last 5 Seasons 2-3 St. Louis Cardinals - 6 Pennants, 2-4 in WS, Last Pennant (1924), Last WS Win (1923) Most Wins 103 (1915), Most Losses 99 (1936) Winning Seasons 22, Losing Seasons 21, .500 Seasons 3 Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1914-18, 1921-25) Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1930-39) 1900-10: 3-6-1 - 1906 1911-20: 6-2-2 - 1914, 1915, 1916 1921-30: 8-2 - 1923, 1924 1931-40: 1-9 1941-50: 4-2 Last 10 Seasons 5-5 Last 5 Seasons 3-2 Last Pennant: 1912 - PIT 1920 - CIN 1924 - STL 1928 - DET 1931 - BSN 1932 - PHA 1938 - CHA, CHN 1940 - NYA 1941 - WSH 1942 - CLE 1943 - BKN 1944 - NYG 1945 - BOS 1946 - SLA, PHI Last World Series Championship: NONE - CIN 1906 - PHA 1909 - PIT 1920 - CHA 1921 - NYG 1922 - SLA 1923 - STL 1928 - DET 1931 - BSN 1938 - CHN 1940 - NYA 1941 - WSH 1942 - CLE 1943 - BKN 1945 - BOS 1946 - PHI

10-05-2004, 12:03 PM	#2436
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Matt wrote: > Not sure what you mean, but if you mean > the GM had to drop out, we've already > got a new one. If it was on the original Sox GM (me), it was all for the better. I'll GM at some point when time frees up, and as you can see still pop up semi-regularly in these threads. John

10-05-2004, 12:13 PM	#2438
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Matt wrote: > Man, I never thought to parallel Johnson > and Lee...wow. And Johnson is my favorite > player from that era. I never thought of it until Dodge and the Senators won that first World Series so deep into his career. Then it was like, "Hey... wait a minute..." I could swear you made a comment that triggered it as well, Matt. Something along the lines of the long time great finally getting the ring. I thought the Johnson tie-in was so obvious at that time that it didn't even need to be mentioned. Now that he's retired and a newbie was reading the thread, I wanted to share the Dodge Love. Hmmm... newbies... sharing the love... Um, when reading about those Black Sox, one needs to keep in mind that Murph is the Best Ever, Jed never took any money and played great in the three Series, Flaky isn't a commie and is the greatest choked in Series history, Ed "The Fixer" Whelan threw more games than Hedi Fleise had... er... "customers", and there is some question whether a certain third baseman took money or didn't take money... That about covers in. John

10-05-2004, 01:33 PM	#2439
mauboy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,906	I like how you gave Dave and Dan Mau the same picture. It would have been funny if you reversed the picture around

10-05-2004, 03:21 PM	#2440
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,965	Confused the hell out of me. I got Dan (I think) in the draft, then saw Dave on another roster.