UTBA-II Boxing League - Page 122

Lee · 01-20-2009, 11:32 AM

I definitely think the Idea has merit. Another option might be to use a power point system, similar to what we use here in Arizona for High School Football.

An example of how it would work in the League would be you get 20 points per team win, plus 5 points for the number of team wins the teams on your schedule have each week, which also rewards strength of schedule. I know I am over complicating things now

I do agree team wins should be rewarded in some fashion though.

Claybor · 01-20-2009, 01:48 PM

I personally like the current system. I look at it not so much as a team effort but as individual efforts put into a team perspective. It's about each and every fight, and each and every fight counts the same. A team that hangs tough every match can stay in the playoff hunt to the end.

Romultiltus · 01-20-2009, 08:27 PM

The rosters have been updated. The below link will take you to the rosters page...

Roster Links Page

Tommysixfingers · 01-20-2009, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romultiltus

The rosters have been updated. The below link will take you to the rosters page...

Roster Links Page

Thank's Dave. Good work!

SAL · 01-21-2009, 12:18 AM

2nd round of waivers are now closed. No claims this round.

3rd waiver round is now open and will close on
January 21 @ 10 PM CST.

I'm still working on updating the rosters for the first two pages of this thread.

lethal liberal · 01-21-2009, 06:17 AM

Thanks Dave for the great work on the stats. What a great job!! I always like to say thanks to you and Scot for all the work you guys do to make this enjoyable for all of us. Take care fellas.

CONN CHRIS · 01-21-2009, 06:26 AM

Thanks again Dave, I love scrollin through these when you post them.

jbergey22 · 01-21-2009, 05:20 PM

Im not sure that it is needed. We are using the method we are using for the very reason it was picked in the first place. Too add importance to each individual matchup.

If we wanted to reward teams wins we might as well just use w/l record to determine the playoffs.(Which Id be perfectly fine with but will leave a lot of unimportant individual bouts)

So I guess what Im saying is that I dont think the change would make any difference in standings so it is not needed.

Romdawg88 · 01-21-2009, 05:49 PM

I agree that there isn't a need for a change in the way we do our standings. The way we do it now works really well. Plus, I like the fact that we can get situations like what we got going in the Mendoza division right now.

bear · 01-21-2009, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

I agree that there isn't a need for a change in the way we do our standings. The way we do it now works really well. Plus, I like the fact that we can get situations like what we got going in the Mendoza division right now.

I agree, even though I'd presently benefit from the suggested change. I voted to keep the scoring sstem as it is.

Thunder · 01-21-2009, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bear

I agree, even though I'd presently benefit from the suggested change. I voted to keep the scoring sstem as it is.

Did I miss a vote, or is it still ongoing?

bear · 01-21-2009, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder

Did I miss a vote, or is it still ongoing?

Not a recent one. Goes back to when we were kicking the idea around a while ago. Don't know if there was a vote or just a majority of viewpoints.

bigMatt · 01-21-2009, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claybor

I personally like the current system. I look at it not so much as a team effort but as individual efforts put into a team perspective. It's about each and every fight, and each and every fight counts the same. A team that hangs tough every match can stay in the playoff hunt to the end.

I agree with Claybor, specifically for the reason he states.

SAL · 01-22-2009, 09:56 PM

3rd round of waivers closed yesterday.

Waiver claims:

Toronto Tornados claim HW (5)Harold Carter 0-0-0 (0) *beginning

and release HW (7)Gerry Cooney 3-10-1 (2) *pre-prime

Week 9 will start hopefully tomorrow evening. Due to all that is going on for me right now, I have a feeling this will be a slow week for the bouts. Sorry for the slow down down this week but I'll run and post as many as I can when I have the chances.

bear · 01-22-2009, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAL

3rd round of waivers closed yesterday.

Waiver claims:

Toronto Tornados claim HW (5)Harold Carter 0-0-0 (0) *beginning

and release HW (7)Gerry Cooney 3-10-1 (2) *pre-prime

Week 9 will start hopefully tomorrow evening. Due to all that is going on for me right now, I have a feeling this will be a slow week for the bouts. Sorry for the slow down down this week but I'll run and post as many as I can when I have the chances.

We understand, Scot. Take your time

Tommysixfingers · 01-23-2009, 01:03 AM

Scot, you need to stop appologizing. Work is work and real life is...well, real life. This is only a game. You are doing a fine job with the league.

Mad Bomber · 01-23-2009, 12:13 PM

Scot, take all the time you need, as I'm not looking forward to the outcome of my match-up.

Romdawg88 · 01-23-2009, 11:02 PM

No worries and no need to apologize, we all understand that sometimes real life is going to slow down the UTBA no biggie.

Jersey-Jim · 01-24-2009, 01:12 PM

Every now and then a blurred line between real and game is a welcomed distraction!

SAL · 01-26-2009, 10:22 PM

Heavy Leather Promotions @ Juggernaut
Fenway Park, Boston MA
January 26, 2009

First Half Bout Results:
(Heavy Leather Promotions listed first)

FLY- Lorenzo Gutierrez L-KO1 Irene Pacheco

FLY- Nonito Donaire L-TKO11 Roberto Vasquez

BW- Thanomchit Sukothai W-TKO4 Peter Toohey

BW- Feliciano Dario Azuaga Ledezma W-KO7 Jose Quirino

FW- Andrea Silanos W-KO6 Jackie Graves

FW- Cesar Soto L-U12 Diego Morales

LW- Jose Luis Castillo L-M12 Genaro Hernandez

LW- Larry Boardman W-TKO8 Maurice Tavant

WW- Billy Lynch W-TKO12 Randy Shields

WW- Andy Callahan W-KO8 Phil Kim

MW- Carl Olson W-TKO3

Paul Pender
(Championship bout)

MW- Lonnie Bradley W-KO8 Joey DeJohn

LHW- Mike McTigue L-U12 Harold Johnson

LHW- Dennis Andries W-TKO5 Eddie Mustafa Muhammad

HW- Bob Baker L-U12 Ken Norton

HW- Tommy Burns L-TKO10 Tommy Gomez

========================================
First Half Score:

Heavy Leather Promotions 9-7-0 (9) = 29
Juggernaut 7-9-0 (3) = 20.5
========================================

Second Half Bout Results:
(Heavy Leather Promotions listed first)

FLY- Lorenzo Gutierrez L-KO2 Roberto Vasquez

FLY- Nonito Donaire D-12 Irene Pacheco

BW- Thanomchit Sukothai W-TKO10 Jose Quirino

BW- Feliciano Dario Azuaga Ledezma W-TKO5 (c) Peter Toohey

FW- Cesar Soto W-TKO3 Jackie Graves

FW- Andrea Silanos L-KO5 Diego Morales

LW- Jose Luis Castillo W-TKO7 Maurice Tavant

LW- Larry Boardman L-KO1 Genaro Hernandez (Boardman advanced to Prime)

WW- Billy Lynch W-U12 Phil Kim

WW- Andy Callahan W-S12 Randy Shields

MW-

Carl Olson W-U12 Joey DeJohn
(Championship bout)

MW- Lonnie Bradley W-U12 Paul Pender

LHW- Dennis Andries L-U12 Harold Johnson

LHW- Mike McTigue W-TKO5 Eddie Mustafa Muhammad

HW- Tommy Burns L-KO4 Ken Norton

HW- Bob Baker L-U12 Tommy Gomez

========================================
Second Half Score:

Heavy Leather Promotions 9-6-1 (5) = 27
Juggernaut 6-9-1 (4) = 21
========================================

========================================
Final Score:

Heavy Leather Promotions 18-13-1 (14) = 56
Juggernaut 13-18-1 (7) = 41.5
========================================

*Rosters have been updated

01-20-2009, 08:27 PM	#2423
Romultiltus Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: East Haven, CT Posts: 19,016	The rosters have been updated. The below link will take you to the rosters page... Roster Links Page __________________ Season 4 Rosters Link Page Waiver/Free Agent Page UTBA-II Season 4 Standings Season 4 Schedule Season 3 Rosters Link Page

01-21-2009, 06:17 AM	#2426
lethal liberal All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Logan,WV Posts: 1,145	Thanks Dave for the great work on the stats. What a great job!! I always like to say thanks to you and Scot for all the work you guys do to make this enjoyable for all of us. Take care fellas. __________________ Member of UTBA Coach of Left Jab Inc (You have to be great to be consistently mediocre) Title Bout devotee since 79 The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have little. FDR Last edited by lethal liberal; 01-21-2009 at 06:26 AM.

01-21-2009, 06:26 AM	#2427
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,096	Thanks again Dave, I love scrollin through these when you post them. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

01-21-2009, 05:49 PM	#2429
Romdawg88 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Belle Glade, FL Posts: 4,182	I agree that there isn't a need for a change in the way we do our standings. The way we do it now works really well. Plus, I like the fact that we can get situations like what we got going in the Mendoza division right now. __________________ Romy "Iceman" Alvarez First TBCB Forum Tournament Champion, 10-6 (5). IBL: 13 - 4 (7) Henry Armstrong > You.

01-23-2009, 12:13 PM	#2437
Mad Bomber All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,566	Scot, take all the time you need, as I'm not looking forward to the outcome of my match-up. __________________ Keep on Punchin' There are three things that go on a fighter, first your reflexes go, then your chin goes, and then your friends go. Willie Pep

01-20-2009, 11:32 AM	#2421
Lee Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Scorched Desert Posts: 4,653	I definitely think the Idea has merit. Another option might be to use a power point system, similar to what we use here in Arizona for High School Football. An example of how it would work in the League would be you get 20 points per team win, plus 5 points for the number of team wins the teams on your schedule have each week, which also rewards strength of schedule. I know I am over complicating things now I do agree team wins should be rewarded in some fashion though.

01-20-2009, 01:48 PM	#2422
Claybor All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,360 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I personally like the current system. I look at it not so much as a team effort but as individual efforts put into a team perspective. It's about each and every fight, and each and every fight counts the same. A team that hangs tough every match can stay in the playoff hunt to the end.

01-21-2009, 12:18 AM	#2425
SAL Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 5,732	2nd round of waivers are now closed. No claims this round. 3rd waiver round is now open and will close on January 21 @ 10 PM CST. I'm still working on updating the rosters for the first two pages of this thread.

01-21-2009, 05:20 PM	#2428
jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,481	Im not sure that it is needed. We are using the method we are using for the very reason it was picked in the first place. Too add importance to each individual matchup. If we wanted to reward teams wins we might as well just use w/l record to determine the playoffs.(Which Id be perfectly fine with but will leave a lot of unimportant individual bouts) So I guess what Im saying is that I dont think the change would make any difference in standings so it is not needed.

01-22-2009, 09:56 PM	#2434
SAL Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 5,732	3rd round of waivers closed yesterday. Waiver claims: Toronto Tornados claim HW (5)Harold Carter 0-0-0 (0) beginning and release HW (7)Gerry Cooney 3-10-1 (2) pre-prime Week 9 will start hopefully tomorrow evening. Due to all that is going on for me right now, I have a feeling this will be a slow week for the bouts. Sorry for the slow down down this week but I'll run and post as many as I can when I have the chances.

01-23-2009, 01:03 AM	#2436
Tommysixfingers All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,500	Scot, you need to stop appologizing. Work is work and real life is...well, real life. This is only a game. You are doing a fine job with the league.

01-23-2009, 11:02 PM	#2438
Romdawg88 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Belle Glade, FL Posts: 4,182	No worries and no need to apologize, we all understand that sometimes real life is going to slow down the UTBA no biggie. __________________ Romy "Iceman" Alvarez First TBCB Forum Tournament Champion, 10-6 (5). IBL: 13 - 4 (7) Henry Armstrong > You.

01-24-2009, 01:12 PM	#2439
Jersey-Jim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toms River, NJ & Sarasota, FL. Posts: 2,702	Every now and then a blurred line between real and game is a welcomed distraction! __________________ *The Boxing Magazine.com: Sep. 2010 Issue* The 2010 All-Time Heavyweight Champions Tournament Notes From A Title Bout Universe Notes from my All-Time Tournaments Heavyweight \| Light Heavyweight Middleweight \|

01-26-2009, 10:22 PM	#2440
SAL Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 5,732	Week 9 Heavy Leather Promotions @ Juggernaut Fenway Park, Boston MA January 26, 2009 First Half Bout Results: (Heavy Leather Promotions listed first) FLY- Lorenzo Gutierrez L-KO1 Irene Pacheco FLY- Nonito Donaire L-TKO11 Roberto Vasquez BW- Thanomchit Sukothai W-TKO4 Peter Toohey BW- Feliciano Dario Azuaga Ledezma W-KO7 Jose Quirino FW- Andrea Silanos W-KO6 Jackie Graves FW- Cesar Soto L-U12 Diego Morales LW- Jose Luis Castillo L-M12 Genaro Hernandez LW- Larry Boardman W-TKO8 Maurice Tavant WW- Billy Lynch W-TKO12 Randy Shields WW- Andy Callahan W-KO8 Phil Kim MW- Carl Olson W-TKO3 Paul Pender (Championship bout) MW- Lonnie Bradley W-KO8 Joey DeJohn LHW- Mike McTigue L-U12 Harold Johnson LHW- Dennis Andries W-TKO5 Eddie Mustafa Muhammad HW- Bob Baker L-U12 Ken Norton HW- Tommy Burns L-TKO10 Tommy Gomez ======================================== First Half Score: Heavy Leather Promotions 9-7-0 (9) = 29 Juggernaut 7-9-0 (3) = 20.5 ======================================== Second Half Bout Results: (Heavy Leather Promotions listed first) FLY- Lorenzo Gutierrez L-KO2 Roberto Vasquez FLY- Nonito Donaire D-12 Irene Pacheco BW- Thanomchit Sukothai W-TKO10 Jose Quirino BW- Feliciano Dario Azuaga Ledezma W-TKO5 (c) Peter Toohey FW- Cesar Soto W-TKO3 Jackie Graves FW- Andrea Silanos L-KO5 Diego Morales LW- Jose Luis Castillo W-TKO7 Maurice Tavant LW- Larry Boardman L-KO1 Genaro Hernandez (Boardman advanced to Prime) WW- Billy Lynch W-U12 Phil Kim WW- Andy Callahan W-S12 Randy Shields MW- Carl Olson W-U12 Joey DeJohn (Championship bout) MW- Lonnie Bradley W-U12 Paul Pender LHW- Dennis Andries L-U12 Harold Johnson LHW- Mike McTigue W-TKO5 Eddie Mustafa Muhammad HW- Tommy Burns L-KO4 Ken Norton HW- Bob Baker L-U12 Tommy Gomez ======================================== Second Half Score: Heavy Leather Promotions 9-6-1 (5) = 27 Juggernaut 6-9-1 (4) = 21 ======================================== ======================================== Final Score: Heavy Leather Promotions 18-13-1 (14) = 56 Juggernaut 13-18-1 (7) = 41.5 ======================================== *Rosters have been updated