The Official NCAA Tournament Thread - Page 121

jaxmagicman · 03-14-2007, 07:36 AM

Didn't watch. Anyone know who won?

Vris · 03-14-2007, 07:42 AM

Niagara. They play Kansas Friday.

jaxmagicman · 03-14-2007, 07:56 AM

What a great reward they get for winning!

His Own Bad Self · 03-14-2007, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by andymac

How does someone melt down about something they don't care about?

You mean the play-in game, or the BCS, or both?

Re: the play-in game - granted that no one watches the actual game itself. But part of the tournament's appeal is watching the little schools trying to knock off the big schools. So rather than eliminate one at-large bid, the NCAA in its limitless wisdom decided to create the play-in game, to ensure that more mediocre teams like Stanford could get an at-large bid. Anyway, I'm sure Florida A&M is thrilled to have been "in the tournament". And I'm sure Niagara appreciates having only one day (if that) to prep for a game with a #1 seed. That's fair.

jaxmagicman · 03-14-2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jdawgsenior

You mean the play-in game, or the BCS, or both?

Re: the play-in game - granted that no one watches the actual game itself. But part of the tournament's appeal is watching the little schools trying to knock off the big schools. So rather than eliminate one at-large bid, the NCAA in its limitless wisdom decided to create the play-in game, to ensure that more mediocre teams like Stanford could get an at-large bid. Anyway, I'm sure Florida A&M is thrilled to have been "in the tournament". And I'm sure Niagara appreciates having only one day (if that) to prep for a game with a #1 seed. That's fair.

They have until Friday. So they have Wednesday and thursday.

andymac · 03-14-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jdawgsenior

You mean the play-in game, or the BCS, or both?

Re: the play-in game - granted that no one watches the actual game itself. But part of the tournament's appeal is watching the little schools trying to knock off the big schools. So rather than eliminate one at-large bid, the NCAA in its limitless wisdom decided to create the play-in game, to ensure that more mediocre teams like Stanford could get an at-large bid. Anyway, I'm sure Florida A&M is thrilled to have been "in the tournament". And I'm sure Niagara appreciates having only one day (if that) to prep for a game with a #1 seed. That's fair.

No one cares about the play-in game. People definitely care about the BCS. No one is melting down over Florida A&M not getting to play a 1 seed or Niagara only getting a day to prepare for Florida. Neither of those teams are/were going to win anyway. Sure, it isn't particularly fair but it isn't altering any outcomes (these teams only have about a 1 in 500 chance or so to begin with).

His Own Bad Self · 03-14-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by andymac

No one is melting down over Florida A&M...

Except me, I suppose.

Point taken, nevertheless. I should have phrased the question differently.

His Own Bad Self · 03-14-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

They have until Friday. So they have Wednesday and thursday.

I'm assuming one of those two days is at least partly a travel day, in which case I'm not sure how much time they have to prepare.

PerfectMisnomer · 03-14-2007, 05:38 PM

Well I changed around my bracket after more thinking, and here's what I'm coming up with. Hopefully andy, marc, or someone else can help me out here with my personal conclusions:

-The Big East is stronger than indicated, and the ACC is weaker than indicated. I know I'm wrong based on andy's favorite site (pomeroy), but I feel like the entire ACC is "average to above average" while the Big East has more legit teams in Notre Dame, Georgetown, Louisville and Pittsburgh.

I don't think UNC is the #1 team in the country, and consider Ohio State, Florida, Kansas, and Georgetown better than them. If teams like Virginia and BC can compete for the division title, it's not that strong of a conference.

I think Texas can take out UNC in a one game format, and I think Georgetown will come out of the East. I have the other three #1 seeds making it to the final four.

The final four is where I'm stuck, as right now I have Georgetown and Kansas winning. Georgetown vs. Ohio State should be an excellent matchup if it happens, and I remember marc complaining Ohio State's guards don't tend to get Oden the ball. Meanwhile, Georgetown's Green is taking over, and Hibbard is as polished as can be.

I have Kansas/Georgetown making it to the championship, and I don't know who to pick. I want to pick Georgetown, but I feel like this Kansas team is the team to beat, and will probably wind up picking Kansas to win the whole thing.

marc · 03-14-2007, 05:46 PM

I really can't argue much with that. I promised myself I wouldn't send OSU to the final 4 so I have TAM coming out of that region due to the last 2 games being played in San Antonio.

I have Texas over UNC and Georgetown coming out of the East just like you do and I also have Kansas and Florida in the Final 4.

I have Florida over Georgetown in the championship game.

I've went back and forth all week on the Lville/Stanford and Illinois/V. Tech games but I ended up going with the underdogs in both.

UNC is going to make or break a lot of peoples brackets. I think they have been the most inconsistent of the 1 seeds but I also think their talent level is insanely high and that they will beat just about anyone if they bring their "A" game.

PerfectMisnomer · 03-14-2007, 05:53 PM

We seem to have the same bracket. I chickened out and put Wisconsin over Georgia Tech, while Illinois is giving me absolute fits. I've been very tempted to have Stanford over Louisville, but I think that would go against my "Big East is teh best" rally chant I've been giving myself.

I can't figure out this Illinois team. I think they can handle Virginia Tech, but this Southern Illinois game is killing me. Luckily whoever wins will get knocked out by Kansas, so it won't hurt too much.

Any reasons why you pick Florida over Kansas?

marc · 03-14-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PerfectMisnomer

Any reasons why you pick Florida over Kansas?

No good one really. The only thing that came to my head was that Kansas already beat Florida and that beating them 2 out of 2 would be pretty difficult even if they haven't played in a few months.

I also just think Florida has been through this before and has the experience edge to go along with the best starting 5 in America.

Kansas's depth could be a problem for them though. It was really a toss up for me.

andymac · 03-14-2007, 07:31 PM

You guys are putting too much thought into to the point of over thinking everything. I always fill out my bracket as soon as I see it before I start reading all kinds of stuff or pouring over the numbers to much to the point that they might get into my head too much. In the end, anything can happen on a given night.

PerfectMisnomer · 03-14-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by andymac

You guys are putting too much thought into to the point of over thinking everything. I always fill out my bracket as soon as I see it before I start reading all kinds of stuff or pouring over the numbers to much to the point that they might get into my head too much. In the end, anything can happen on a given night.

My first bracket is my "quick thought" bracket. My second bracket is my actual analysis bracket.

boilermaker · 03-14-2007, 11:24 PM

Breaking news, we're going to win this tournament.

His Own Bad Self · 03-15-2007, 12:15 AM

This is the first time in my life I haven't filled out even one bracket. No online contests, no office pools, not even one just for fun.

marc · 03-15-2007, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by andymac

You guys are putting too much thought into to the point of over thinking everything. I always fill out my bracket as soon as I see it before I start reading all kinds of stuff or pouring over the numbers to much to the point that they might get into my head too much. In the end, anything can happen on a given night.

I don't listen to any analysts or really read anything about the teams. Some games I'm just really torn on and I try and go over in my head what I've seen from each of them over the course of the season.

In all honesty, 90% of my bracket took about 2 minutes, it was just a few games that I couldn't decide.

I agree though, anything can happen and watching more basketball or having more basketball knowledge really doesn't help all that much when it comes to filling a bracket out.

twins15 · 03-15-2007, 03:26 AM

Only about 9 more hours!

potatoman · 03-15-2007, 03:38 AM

I put Zona in the final 4, losing to UCLA... That might hurt me bad.

Cooleyvol · 03-15-2007, 06:45 AM

I think we need four different threads this year. One for each region to help find things easier.

03-14-2007, 07:36 AM	#2401
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Didn't watch. Anyone know who won? __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

03-14-2007, 07:42 AM	#2402
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03-14-2007, 07:56 AM	#2403
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03-14-2007, 05:38 PM	#2409
PerfectMisnomer All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,221	Well I changed around my bracket after more thinking, and here's what I'm coming up with. Hopefully andy, marc, or someone else can help me out here with my personal conclusions: -The Big East is stronger than indicated, and the ACC is weaker than indicated. I know I'm wrong based on andy's favorite site (pomeroy), but I feel like the entire ACC is "average to above average" while the Big East has more legit teams in Notre Dame, Georgetown, Louisville and Pittsburgh. I don't think UNC is the #1 team in the country, and consider Ohio State, Florida, Kansas, and Georgetown better than them. If teams like Virginia and BC can compete for the division title, it's not that strong of a conference. I think Texas can take out UNC in a one game format, and I think Georgetown will come out of the East. I have the other three #1 seeds making it to the final four. The final four is where I'm stuck, as right now I have Georgetown and Kansas winning. Georgetown vs. Ohio State should be an excellent matchup if it happens, and I remember marc complaining Ohio State's guards don't tend to get Oden the ball. Meanwhile, Georgetown's Green is taking over, and Hibbard is as polished as can be. I have Kansas/Georgetown making it to the championship, and I don't know who to pick. I want to pick Georgetown, but I feel like this Kansas team is the team to beat, and will probably wind up picking Kansas to win the whole thing. __________________ PCBL -- Commissioner, Troy Heroes GM Current Avatar: SP Keith Ellison 20-8, 2.59 ERA and CL All-Star Game Starter Last edited by PerfectMisnomer; 03-14-2007 at 05:43 PM.

03-14-2007, 05:46 PM	#2410
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	I really can't argue much with that. I promised myself I wouldn't send OSU to the final 4 so I have TAM coming out of that region due to the last 2 games being played in San Antonio. I have Texas over UNC and Georgetown coming out of the East just like you do and I also have Kansas and Florida in the Final 4. I have Florida over Georgetown in the championship game. I've went back and forth all week on the Lville/Stanford and Illinois/V. Tech games but I ended up going with the underdogs in both. UNC is going to make or break a lot of peoples brackets. I think they have been the most inconsistent of the 1 seeds but I also think their talent level is insanely high and that they will beat just about anyone if they bring their "A" game. __________________

03-14-2007, 05:53 PM	#2411
PerfectMisnomer All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,221	We seem to have the same bracket. I chickened out and put Wisconsin over Georgia Tech, while Illinois is giving me absolute fits. I've been very tempted to have Stanford over Louisville, but I think that would go against my "Big East is teh best" rally chant I've been giving myself. I can't figure out this Illinois team. I think they can handle Virginia Tech, but this Southern Illinois game is killing me. Luckily whoever wins will get knocked out by Kansas, so it won't hurt too much. Any reasons why you pick Florida over Kansas? __________________ PCBL -- Commissioner, Troy Heroes GM Current Avatar: SP Keith Ellison 20-8, 2.59 ERA and CL All-Star Game Starter Last edited by PerfectMisnomer; 03-14-2007 at 05:54 PM.

03-14-2007, 07:31 PM	#2413
andymac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 5,725	You guys are putting too much thought into to the point of over thinking everything. I always fill out my bracket as soon as I see it before I start reading all kinds of stuff or pouring over the numbers to much to the point that they might get into my head too much. In the end, anything can happen on a given night. __________________ June Madness: Links FTB: andymac

03-14-2007, 11:24 PM	#2415
boilermaker All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,956	Breaking news, we're going to win this tournament.

03-15-2007, 12:15 AM	#2416
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03-15-2007, 06:45 AM	#2420
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